US Army Sees Sharp Decline in White Recruits - Not dying for Isaeal is what Hitler would have wanted Goyim

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The Army's recruiting of white soldiers has dropped significantly in the last half decade, according to internal data reviewed by Military.com, a decline that accounts for much of the service's historic recruitment slump that has become the subject of increasing concern for Army leadership and Capitol Hill.

The shift in demographics for incoming recruits would be irrelevant to war planners, except it coincides with an overall shortfall of about 10,000 recruits for the Army in 2023 as the service missed its target of 65,000 new soldiers. That deficit is straining the force as it has ramped up its presence in the Pacific and Europe: A smaller Army is taking on a larger mission and training workload than during the peak of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -- leading to soldiers being away from home now more than ever.

A total of 44,042 new Army recruits were categorized by the service as white in 2018, but that number has fallen consistently each year to a low of 25,070 in 2023, with a 6% dip from 2022 to 2023 being the most significant drop. No other demographic group has seen such a precipitous decline, though there have been ups and downs from year to year.

In 2018, 56.4% of new recruits were categorized as white. In 2023, that number had fallen to 44%. During that same five-year period, Black recruits have gone from 20% to 24% of the pool, and Hispanic recruits have risen from 17% to 24%, with both groups seeing largely flat recruiting totals but increasing as a percentage of incoming soldiers as white recruiting has fallen.

The rate at which white recruitment has fallen far outpaces nationwide demographic shifts, data experts and Army officials interviewed by Military.com noted. They don't see a single cause to the recruiting problem, but pointed to a confluence of issues for Army recruiting, including partisan scrutiny of the service, a growing obesity epidemic and an underfunded public education system.

Internally, some Army planners are alarmed over the data trends, but see it as a minefield to navigate given increasing partisan attacks against the military for its efforts to recruit and support a diverse force, according to interviews with several service officials.

The Army declined Military.com's request to share its regional recruiting data, which could show what specific parts of the country are struggling. Military.com had seen internal Army numbers that suggested that the shift in demographics was even more dramatic, but when presented with those figures, Army public affairs officials insisted that they were wrong and provided updated statistics included in this article, while blaming a system coding error.

The updated data provided by the Army did not break down recruit demographics by both race and gender at the same time, meaning that it's unclear whether the sharp decline is worse among white women or white men, or if the drop was the same for both groups.

Collapse of Men in the Labor Market

Though the recruiting numbers reviewed by Military.com point to a stable gender divide for incoming soldiers, 83% male in 2018 versus 82% in 2023, the disproportionate number of men donning the uniform means that a disruption to men seeking work in the U.S. can have a major impact on the military services. That exact dynamic is at play, according to civilian experts, as men have been disappearing from labor market statistics.

"Men have been in trouble in the workforce for two generations. The greatest risk of being a labor dropout is being a native-born, low education, unmarried guy," said Nicholas Eberstadt, an economist who studies demographics at the American Enterprise Institute. "Like with any other big historic change, it's kind of hard to attribute to a single magic bullet."

According to Army officials, recruiting efforts are starting to broadly mimic the trends in the private sector, though it's unclear why that would particularly impact white recruiting.

"What we're seeing is a reflection of society; what we know less of is what is driving all of these things," one Army official told Military.com. "There is no widely accepted cause."

Part of those labor trends is men in their prime working age of 25 to 54 years old detaching from the labor market for decades, though that age group is slightly older than prime recruiting age.

The work rate for men in that age group has dropped from 94% in 1948 to 86% in 2023, according to Eberstadt's landmark study "Men Without Work." That group accounts for roughly six million men who are unemployed and not looking for work, which generally isn't captured by unemployment stats. It's a bit of a mystery to data experts, with no single explanation like drug addiction or women's increased participation in the workforce explaining the sharp drop.

Among other problems, opioid overdoses have increasingly pummeled the U.S. every year, with 80,000 deaths in 2021 and about 75% of overdose victims being white and many in their twenties, according to data compiled by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

And some Army officials interviewed by Military.com pointed to struggles by recruits from the South to meet service standards, though there are no indications that recruits from the South are disproportionately white. A 2018 study published in the Journal of Public Health Management and Practice found and had the lowest median levels of fitness compared to troops from other parts of the country.

Nationally, the South has the highest prevalence of obesity, something researchers have attributed to a slew of factors, including restrictions on access to health care, high-quality fitness facilities and healthy food. Large swaths of the South also have relatively low household incomes -- putting easy access to fitness training and healthy foods even further out of reach.

Partisan Attacks

Another Army official pointed to partisan attacks from conservative lawmakers and media, which has an overwhelmingly white audience. Those groups have used the military as a partisan cudgel against the Biden administration, lambasting the services for being "woke," or so preoccupied with liberal values that they have abandoned their warfighting priorities. In most cases, those attacks have zeroed in on the services being more inclusive for women, service members from racial minority groups and LGBTQ+ troops.

"No, the young applicants don't care about this stuff. But the older people in their life do who have a lot of influence ... parents, coaches, pastors," one Army official told Military.com. "There's a level of prestige in parts of conservative America with service that has degraded. Now, you can say you don't want to join, for whatever reason, or bad-mouth the service without any cultural guilt associated for the first time in those areas."

The Army has made a few passing attempts to court those cultural influencers in hopes they might be more willing to recommend service to young Americans. This includes a high-profile oath of enlistment ceremony on "Fox and Friends," an oped in The Wall Street Journal from service secretaries pitching service, and a return to a nostalgic recruiting slogan while heavily investing in advertising on cable television.

Often, those "woke" critiques include few specifics. Right-wing pundits and lawmakers have routinely blasted the Army for a 2022 recruiting ad, titled "The Calling," featuring a real-life soldier who has two mothers and participated in Pride events. The Army, in producing ads like that one, has seen data showing that LGBTQ+ rights are considered a major priority among Gen Z, the demographic that the service needs to court to build its ranks.

The service has since distanced itself from that ad.

"I don't know the genesis of it. Or why they. ... 'The Calling' was before me," Agnes Schaefer, assistant secretary of the Army for manpower and reserve affairs, told lawmakers in December, referencing the ad when pressed on the reasoning for it.

Parallels with Civilian College Enrollments

A similar demographic trend to what the Army is experiencing has been popping up at colleges across the country. Between 2010 and 2021, white undergraduate and graduate college enrollment rates fell from 43% to 38%, according to the most recent federal data from the National Center for Education Statistics. That dip coincided with fewer men enrolling, with male enrollment decreasing from 38% to 33% over the same period of time.

Higher education has also faced fierce partisan attacks from right-wing lawmakers and partisan media, with critiques of the U.S. higher education system being potent ways to gin up the Republican base.

Men now account for about 40% of undergraduate students, after seeing a steady decline since the 1970s. That decline has run broadly parallel to a decline in job opportunities for low-skill labor and manufacturing, meaning that as men are becoming less educated as a demographic, the pool of jobs they qualify for becomes increasingly shallow.

One of the key pitches for military service is numerous scholarships available to service members during or after service, most notably the GI Bill -- broadly seen on Capitol Hill as among the most successful federal programs. But if college is becoming less relevant to white males, that pitch for service could become less enticing moving forward.

Meanwhile, the Army is seeking structural changes in how it recruits, including new recruiting career fields for soldiers aimed at putting the right talent into boots to hopefully help fill the ranks. Even with recent attempts to boost its recruiting force and slick new marketing ads, it likely faces an uphill battle to overcome culture war issues that service leaders believe are, at a minimum, exacerbating recruiting problems.

But the drop in white recruitment has baffled Army staff and isn't easily explained by any one particular factor, and no parallel demographic trends in the civilian sector are perfect comparisons.

Without proper context, some officials say, Army marketing efforts face a difficult future as the service continues to face partisan culture war attacks and the pool of eligible recruits continues to shrink.

"There are all sorts of things going on," Eberstadt said. "It's almost like a naturally made Rorschach test."
 
I've met people in the military who joined up out of having no other choice. As in, they literally had nothing else to do with their lives, so maybe they would be better off dying in war as cannon fodder and be remembered well, rather than staying in their podunk town and becoming alcoholics with no discernible skills (at least in the Army, you'd be an alcoholic with a chance of getting a job where you could make good money after you leave).

If you get told that after you get there, even your valor is suspect because you're white, it basically takes away that one last thing that might convince someone with nothing to live for to join up. If you don't even get the dignity of a job that at least on the surface gives you a small bit of respectability, and you have no chance of elevating yourself out of your position, and you're being told you're a bad person anyway, well, if you can get that shit at home minus the stigma of working for an organization that openly hates you, being an alcoholic in a podunk town almost seems better.

I mean, that's the dirty little secret, isn't it? Most of the military aren't cut out for being officers that will eventually end up in cushy contractor positions. They're grist for the mill. It's probably why our veterans have been treated badly: they were never particularly important in the first place. Add that into the equation, and you end up with broken people that become a lesson to young people that might have considered the military. Diversity quotas are insult added to injury added to abuse.
 
Reading that was amazing. AI image recognition is so overrated it hurts
It's really funny that stuff like LODESTAR and the Gorgon Stare (wide area surveillance systems) will not be able to, at least for now, operate autonomously and they'll always need a human analyst to review and analyze the shit they capture.
 

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The shift in demographics for incoming recruits would be irrelevant to war planners, except it coincides with an overall shortfall of about 10,000 recruits for the Army in 2023 as the service missed its target of 65,000 new soldiers.
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Now, I know we've told you we hate your guts for being white and male, you rapists, but we're gonna need you to go die for Israel, mmmkay? If you'd just sign up like you used to and come be cannon fodder for globohomo, that'd be FANTASTIC.
 
I wonder when they'll open up the ranks to illegals to really cement the fact we're fucked.

In general, the military is fucked beyond fixing at this point unless a total overhaul takes place. Civilian leaders are pure shit. Upper echelon plays politics and will (clearly) troon out if needed. Junior officers are slightly better, but they're still college kids who spent 4+ years being indoctrinated to suck the troon dick and it's only getting worse. We're using civvies to take over certain roles. Stateside bases are full of fast food restaurants, ensuring everyone continues getting even fatter. I'm sure the EU bases are the same as Kuwait and Iraq had them.

What's really fucking them over is that this is peacetime military aka boring military. Those staying in stay in just for the benefits/don't know what to do when they get out/can't survive. Something also tells me they no longer are willing to show motivational videos with Drowning Pool in the background during basic to hype the bald headed kids up for door kicking.

A strong majority of people I was in the army with were retards. Many of those I know who stayed in for the full 20 did so because they had no idea what else to do and needed to keep making money, support their family, etc. Not that they had any particular attachment to it beyond a job and being gung ho when necessary.

I always knew I never wanted to stay in. Cemented by how outrageous things were during deployments. I spent 2 years in Iraq and nothing soured me more on the Army as a whole. Not due to combat or anything but the state of leadership and how underhanded so much of it was. Just as a small example, if you deployed as an E5 (Sergeant or lower) you got an Army Commendation Medal upon return from deployment. If you were an E6 (Staff Sergeant) or higher you got a bronze star. It was so lol that I almost laughed at the medal ceremony. Then you deploy again and the exact same thing happens again and you realize this is just business as usual.

Compounded by the Officer Bro Club that protects their own and punishes enlisted blatantly. They also incestuously pass around medals to each other. I have personally witnessed officers losing weapons and night vision goggles (called NODs in the service) out in the middle of Baghdad and ever getting punished for it. Something that would lose you maybe multiple ranks and pay and all kinds of other shit if you were enlisted.

All of this in the 82nd Airborne. A unit that is or was supposedly more honorable and disciplined than others within the regular army. If it was only downhill from there then holy shit. Not to mention national guard or anything like that.
 
Most of the military aren't cut out for being officers
The way I hear it, most of the officers aren't cut out for being officers. And the higher you go the more true that is.
It's probably why our veterans have been treated badly: they were never particularly important in the first place.
Years back I was on a plane in the USA and the pilots voice came on to say he'd learned there were several US military onboard and thanked them for their service and then the whole plane clapped (only not the meme, everybody did). It was a bit unsettling to me at the time as a European but I think now I get it. The US establishment and middle class love to signal how valued US soldiers as a means of offsetting everything else. Just more propaganda.
 
Edward R. Gallagher
Clint Allen Lorance
Michael Chase Behenna
Derrick Miller
Mathew L. Golsteyn


All good soldiers who would have been war heroes had they served in WW2 instead of ragheadland.
All with the exception of Derrick Miller (who is black) are straight white men.
All court-martialed and vilified for crimes they did not commit or for making the right judgement call.
This is why the US military is rotting away.
 
A strong majority of people I was in the army with were retards. Many of those I know who stayed in for the full 20 did so because they had no idea what else to do and needed to keep making money, support their family, etc. and snip of rest

Rings true for the other branches. Obese senior enlisted Marines that haven't scored above minimum on the PFT for at least a decade, retired Filipino Seamen that can't speak any fucking English while their family tries to steal perfume samples from the PX, etc.

Iraq was a joke. Having to do once a month "field trips" for those who never had a reason to leave the wire, senior enlisted making us get in to formation during incoming mortar or rockets, or jackasses getting purple hearts because they fell asleep and drove over an IED. Or the ever changing ROE that makes you question why you're even there. But at least there was midrats...

The amount of drunk driving or wife beating O3+ and E7+ that get nothing but extra duty as punishment was a big eye opener, especially overseas. Staff NCO rapes s local or droves drunk? Sorry lower enlisted, curfews and battle buddies required.

Tldr; commercials, movies, games, and recruiters are all a lie. The only truth to it all is how pozzed it all is now and likely still death by PowerPoint getting told to not rape and daily reminders that something like 90% of marriages end in divorce and that contract marriage to that stripper isn't worth it.
 
Edward R. Gallagher
Clint Allen Lorance
Michael Chase Behenna
Derrick Miller
Mathew L. Golsteyn


All good soldiers who would have been war heroes had they served in WW2 instead of ragheadland.
All with the exception of Derrick Miller (who is black) are straight white men.
All court-martialed and vilified for crimes they did not commit or for making the right judgement call.
This is why the US military is rotting away.
Add Allen West to that list.

Did my 20-plus, was in an interesting career field, got more responsibility as a butter-bar than some civilians would ever get in their entire working lives. Had some neat jobs. Frankly, compared to the military jobs almost all the civilian jobs after retiring were mundane by comparison. However, my career went from the mid-70's to the late 90's, Think at least the AF peaked in the mid to late 80's as far as treating people of all ranks as adults and professionals. Now....nope.

Was glad to enlist when I did, was glad to be commissioned when I did, and damned glad to have retired when I did.
 
It's simple

If the state doesn't serve it's citizens, the citizens won't serve the state.

The state cannot "life hack" this equation by performative feel-good action or mandating love and service by law.

The current American state is failing its citizenry and is increasingly hostile to demands for redress.
 
Add Allen West to that list.

Did my 20-plus, was in an interesting career field, got more responsibility as a butter-bar than some civilians would ever get in their entire working lives. Had some neat jobs. Frankly, compared to the military jobs almost all the civilian jobs after retiring were mundane by comparison. However, my career went from the mid-70's to the late 90's, Think at least the AF peaked in the mid to late 80's as far as treating people of all ranks as adults and professionals. Now....nope.

Was glad to enlist when I did, was glad to be commissioned when I did, and damned glad to have retired when I did.
You were very lucky to be serving in the golden age, just after Nam, just before Bush's little NYC party.

I would also argue that the US military started coming apart at the seems after Vietnam.
What kind of a country leaves hundreds of POWs behind in hostile territory and then continuously denies their existence until the last of them perishes in a prison camp deep in enemy territory, alone and forgotten?
Kerry and McCain were the worst type of traitors; betrayers of the brotherhood of American servicemen, literal Judases who left their brothers-in-arms to rot in a VC prison camp till they died.
I feel like Trump made a major mistake when he attacked McCain, he should have mentioned the POW/MIA issue instead of making personal attacks. That would have been to far greater effect.
 
Just from the headline I can see that the architects of the matrix are getting nervous. No one would care if all black people suddenly stopped joining the military, except some idiot professor from an Ivy League school whining about not enough black admirals or something.

But white people having second thoughts about serving? REAL DEFCON 1 SHIT. JAN 6 ALL OVER AGAIN.

PROTIP: If you are a white person and you travel to any place somewhat normal, you are treated as higher-status (for lack of a better term). America could genocide all of their non-whites tomorrow and no other country would give a shit. Many would even say "ABOUT FUCKING TIME."
 
sure you are goy , the selective service contract you signed definitely won't be used against you. and when the election is over you definitely wont be in iran dying for the motherland


this is why the nation hates you

You do realize that some of the people on this site are over draft age, right? Not everyone on Kiwi Farms is a twenty-something edge lord.
 
PROTIP: If you are a white person and you travel to any place somewhat normal, you are treated as higher-status (for lack of a better term). America could genocide all of their non-whites tomorrow and no other country would give a shit. Many would even say "ABOUT FUCKING TIME."
Not only that but most of the rest of the world wont give you shit service because you have a nice watch.
 
I think it was the World Wars that fucked up American society. America basically sacrificed its own soul to save Eurotrash and Asiatrash from themselves. Mostly it was World War I and this strand from McKinley through Wilson that got the ball rolling, modern Leviathan, but at least there was a military standown afterwards even if the G-men were unleashed. World War II, you get the permanent large army, you get the belief that we SHOULD act as the world police (global empire), you get massive Communist penetration of the American government.

If you read Blood in the Water (about the USS Liberty), it makes clear that the US Army leadership was in on it. There were plenty of officers, generals willing to conspire to murder American servicemen to inveigle us in a Middle Eastern war. The military was also in on Gulf of Tonkin, and it had its share of Communists too.

We should have - and I understand this was impossible at the time politically, Americans didn't want to throw away huge numbers of lives fighting what seemed like someone else's battle, and against a nation they had been propagandized to see as friendly - but we should have just carried the fight on into the Soviet Union, like Churchill wanted, ended them there, and then had the US Army stand down to its traditional levels.
 
Aside from the wokeshit, which has been beaten to a dead horse now at Page 7, I think (from my standpoint, as someone who was in the US Navy anyway) that one of the big reasons is that the military isn’t competitive as an employer anymore. The wokeshit adds to this, with the typical and “safe” demographics who joined for patriotism and service no longer joining, but I’d wager for the last 70 years or so most professional soldiers joined for mercenary reasons, that is to say money, housing, and benefits. It worked when most of the country didn’t really have that kind of shit, but now random corporations are offering tuition assistance and their actual weekly/biweekly pay exceeds the pay of the lower enlisted, it’s a no brainer.

I wouldn’t tell my kids to join. A lot of work, permanent injuries and strain on bones and muscles, for very little in the way of compensation.
 
I wouldn’t tell my kids to join. A lot of work, permanent injuries and strain on bones and muscles, for very little in the way of compensation.
About the only people who might benefit from it at this point are people who are such fuckups they're otherwise ending up in prison or dead. Even then, that's mostly not white kids. But a black guy who can not only fill a diversity slot but also do an actual job is worth his weight in gold.
 
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