Art professor resigns because of troon student chimp out over criticism - student drew girls with penises and teacher linked it to sexual abuse

A professor at a prestigious art institute has resigned after he said a troop of “militant LGBT students” turned his classroom into something closer to a “police state than a place where academic freedom and the open exchange of ideas is valued.”

Michael Bonesteel has taught at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago as an adjunct for 14 years and is an internationally recognized expert on the 20th-century Chicago artist Henry Darger.

He announced his resignation after three students, in two separate incidents, filed harassment complaints against him for the discussion of sensitive materials in his classes and the way they were presented.

The administration responded by overhauling his curricula and reducing his teaching hours to the point where he would no longer qualify for health insurance, Mr. Bonesteel said in an interview with the Chicago Reader.

The first incident occurred Dec. 12 in a class called “Present and Future of Outsider Art,” when Mr. Bonesteel posited that the prevalence of little girls with penises in Darger’s art might be linked with childhood sexual abuse.

A transgender student took issue with the theory.

“The student said there was no proof that Darger was sexually abused, and therefore I was wrong in proposing the theory,” Mr. Bonesteel told the Chicago Reader, adding that there is no definitive proof, but many Darger scholars think it’s likely.

On the advice of a diversity counselor, Mr. Bonesteel wrote an apology for his “insensitivity” and posted it to a school website, attaching a research article with background on the theory he proposed.

SAIC Dean of Faculty Lisa Wainwright later sided with Mr. Bonesteel in the student’s complaint, but determined he needed sensitivity training on how to talk about “identity-related material” in his curricula.

Mr. Bonesteel said a student launched into a “long diatribe about perceived anti-Semitic attitudes” in the work of an author they were reading, Gerard Jones.

The session turned into a heated debate, and Mr. Bonesteel said the student went on to criticize “SAIC’s policies toward minorities and transgender students specifically, leveling accusations of racism and homophobia toward me in particular.”

The student also complained about the lack of a trigger warning during a discussion about an implied rape in “Batman: The Killing Joke,” a comic book by Alan Moore.

“When I said the word ‘rape,’ the complaining student yelled, ‘Hey, where’s the trigger warning?’ ” Mr. Bonesteelsaid in an interview with Raw Vision. “A little exasperated by that point, since I had already received a long tongue-lashing [from] this student, I remarked, ‘Really? You want a trigger warning for the word “rape”?’ “

In response to a complaint over that incident, the dean of faculty determined “it is more likely than not that your conduct in relation to this student constituted harassment based on gender-identity in violation of the School’s Policy Against Discrimination, Harassment and Retaliation.”

Months later, a second student from the comic book class filed a complaint against Mr. Bonesteel on the basis of having been “troubled by the incident.”

The administration later told Mr. Bonesteel that he would no longer be allowed to teach courses on comics or set the curricula for his classes on outsider art, Mr. Bonesteel said. The school also reduced his teaching hours for the next academic year to the point where he would be ineligible for benefits.

Mr. Bonesteel said “to be punished by refusing to let me teach three comics courses in which I had invested twelve years of time and effort and love, and in the process take away my insurance benefits, these were the conditions that I found unacceptable.”

In his June 12 resignation letter, Mr. Bonesteel protested against what he called an “abuse of Title IX protections.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/21/militant-lgbt-students-force-professors-resignatio/

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Drawings of little girls with dicks are troon rights

Also, sensitivity training on how to talk about “identity-related material” :stress:
 
I've read up on him and he was placed in a Catholic boys home at a young age. Where he began to misbehave and was said to have a problem with excessive masturbation. This could easily point to being diddled by priests and developing a warped sense of sexuality because of it. But he's dead so we'll never know. I guess the troon doesn't know that children who are abused will draw very disturbing pictures. I once saw a documentary on a girl who was sexually abused. She kept drawing pictures of herself impaled by a large metal rod. That's not normal. They could have opened a dialog on how abuse effects art. But it's more important to not trigger troons.

Colleges used to tell you that you needed to act like an adult and learn to deal with disturbing things that come up in class. I won't get off topic with specific stories, but when we came upon something disturbing in history or literature we had a dialog about how modern people view it. We didn't have people demanding safe spaces and trigger warnings. These kids are never going to learn anything that shakes their world view. That undermines the entire college experience. You can't expand your horizons when you refuse to leave your safe space and crusade to destroy anyone who tries to teach you something that doesn't fit the box you closed yourself up in.

This is why they are going to an art college. Any sort of alternative college or university (evergreen) is going to continue to be ran over by these people. You don't hear much, if anything, about these problems in areas related to STEM because extreme liberals never seem to go for those types of careers and education. (And yet complain when there is not enough of them in it.) They want something that caters towards their feelings and emotions rather than something that has to really make them -think-, and because majority of the art school is filled with overly emotional drama queens already, no one really questions it.
 
Why would you take a comic books class when comics have tons of "problematic" content in them? Like fucked up shit happens all the time in comics, are you so stupid you didn't know that or did you just take it so you could bitch about it
Same reason people like Anita pretend to care about video games. They just noticed there's money in it, they think it's easy to declare "mine" and push out all the parts of the community they don't like, not understanding those people are why there's money in it and are far more valuable than the bored spoiled kid who thinks there's a get-rich-quick scheme to be played.
 
Bauhaus was riddled with communists, which caused a lot of tension between the school and the German government, before Mies van der Rohe took over and dismiss all of them.
Most architecture schools in the West follow the Gropius Bauhaus curriculum, which is why we get shit like this.
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With the exception of places like Notre Dame, architecture schools in general are crap because historically it has always been something you learn by apprenticeship. I assume art is the same.
 
Most architecture schools in the West follow the Gropius Bauhaus curriculum, which is why we get shit like this.

With the exception of places like Notre Dame, architecture schools in general are crap because historically it has always been something you learn by apprenticeship. I assume art is the same.
Living in Prague, there's this goddamn monstrosity right on the Vltava. It's completely out of place, utterly grotesque. I hate it.

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Most architecture schools in the West follow the Gropius Bauhaus curriculum, which is why we get shit like this.
Gropius was a modernist who believed that function dictates form; his works are mostly boring grey/brown rectangular boxes with square windows. That building looks like some moderate postmodernist work, where curves are incorporated "playfully" using modern materials.

With the exception of places like Notre Dame, architecture schools in general are crap because historically it has always been something you learn by apprenticeship. I assume art is the same.

The original idea of Gropius was precisely to lead the student through a series of art apprenticeship before letting them start on "architecture" class, but as the school had always been in one trouble or another, I think no one ever reached the "architecture" class.

That Prague building is symptomatic of what some people called "deconstructivist" school of architecture: the idea is that "architecture" and "surroundings", "material" and "space", "structure" and "decoration", etc are binary oppositions that have to be "deconstructed", and it is the architect's job to engage the building in "dialogue" with its locality. How the supposed "dialogue" take place I have no idea, but most "deconstructivist" buildings are eyesores -- not to mention expensive as fuck.
 
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Most architecture schools in the West follow the Gropius Bauhaus curriculum, which is why we get shit like this.

With the exception of places like Notre Dame, architecture schools in general are crap because historically it has always been something you learn by apprenticeship. I assume art is the same.

I wonder what your logic is for blaming Bauhaus for abominations like this. It's nothing like anything they did.

That Prague building is symptomatic of what some people called "deconstructivist" school of architecture: the idea is that "architecture" and "surroundings", "material" and "space", "structure" and "decoration", etc are binary oppositions that have to be "deconstructed", and it is the architect's job to engage the building in "dialogue" with its locality. How the supposed "dialogue" take place I have no idea, but most "deconstructivist" buildings are eyesores -- not to mention expensive as fuck.

All that is, of course, nonsense.

It is the job of an architect to build something that stands up and doesn't fall down and doesn't need extensive repairs just to continue standing in 20 or 30 years.

That crap is all stuff that would fall apart or just plain collapse if faced with even a slight natural disaster.

This is why unrealistic, dumb designs like this are sold to dumbass countries like Dubai with too much money, where they can afford just to reinforce and otherwise pay a fuckton of money to keep some pile of bullshit like that standing.
 
So has anyone accused this guy of being a Pedo yet?
I'm shocked they hadn't done that yet, they had a good 40 years to do it!

This is why I don't like being creative if this is going to be the shit we have to accept from people who can't be happy at all.

It would be great if SJWs did this enough to rid schools of these exceptional classes and majors thereby rendering them no reason to go to college in the first place.
They're better off staying home and become a leech to the system while living off their parents income! They're not right for this world!

What kind of name is Bonesteel the Hedgehog
Nuttin' personnel, kid!

Hes dead. He was a janitor who was bipolar and had a shitton of other mental disorders, and either died or committed suicide, and they just found tons and tons of manuscripts and drawings and shit in his house. He didnt really have friends and was kind of a recluse.
That's all he was. There's nothing false about that fact.

My theory is that he was actually so out of touch with reality and socially isolated that he may in fact simply not have known girls don't have penises.
That's what I think. His Catholic upbringing probably also contributed to him not even being curious enough to look into even the graphic of art books to see what a nude women was.

Warhol was literally shot by one of the SJWs of his time.
Certainly an early warning of things to come.

I remember reading about Darger, the guy made some creepy as fuck art. It's very clear he was disturbed and mentally ill to say the least and his art and writings were probably an outlet that kept him from becoming a serial killer. He even wrote in his personal diary how he was surprised he didn't turn out to be a violent, vengeful person.

If someone caught drawing this today, it would be a trip straight to a institution, not be lauded as art:
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He ought to have been glad to had kept this to himself until his final days (except for the landlord having discovered it while he was in a nursing home).

How much do you want to bet that the troony individual in question only took this class because he knew that art pieces involving girldicks would come up and he could reeeeeee and be brave.
I wonder how triggered he or she (or both) might be to something from Georgia O'Keefe or Robert Mapplethorpe?

I've read up on him and he was placed in a Catholic boys home at a young age. Where he began to misbehave and was said to have a problem with excessive masturbation. This could easily point to being diddled by priests and developing a warped sense of sexuality because of it. But he's dead so we'll never know. I guess the troon doesn't know that children who are abused will draw very disturbing pictures. I once saw a documentary on a girl who was sexually abused. She kept drawing pictures of herself impaled by a large metal rod. That's not normal. They could have opened a dialog on how abuse effects art. But it's more important to not trigger troons.
It's sad when we can't even discuss such childhood traumas like that.

Colleges used to tell you that you needed to act like an adult and learn to deal with disturbing things that come up in class. I won't get off topic with specific stories, but when we came upon something disturbing in history or literature we had a dialog about how modern people view it. We didn't have people demanding safe spaces and trigger warnings. These kids are never going to learn anything that shakes their world view. That undermines the entire college experience. You can't expand your horizons when you refuse to leave your safe space and crusade to destroy anyone who tries to teach you something that doesn't fit the box you closed yourself up in.
This is what troubles me about what happened here. It's like nobody wants to know history and the things that happened because they did happen. It's kinda like being told when you're 7 that your dog went to heaven and not that it was suffering from old age or an incurable disease so it had to be put down for good. Sheltering children from the truth more painful than knowing the truth firsthand.

Living in Prague, there's this goddamn monstrosity right on the Vltava. It's completely out of place, utterly grotesque. I hate it.

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I must be in that other camp as I think that looks very interesting. There's an annex to my local art museum that looks like THIS. I went to a couple classes there and just loved every inch of it.
 
I must be in that other camp as I think that looks very interesting. There's an annex to my local art museum that looks like THIS. I went to a couple classes there and just loved every inch of it.
Designed by the same guy, looks like. I hate it because it's so out of place. Stick that same building in say, NYC and I'd probably be like, "Well that looks pretty stupid," but wouldn't give it much more thought. That "Dancing House," though, is in Prague where the city looks like this:
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Designed by the same guy, looks like. I hate it because it's so out of place. Stick that same building in say, NYC and I'd probably be like, "Well that looks pretty stupid," but wouldn't give it much more thought. That "Dancing House," though, is in Prague where the city looks like this:
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I'm sure it's often the case of Old World vs. New World the way these things go. I suppose I'm a sucker for the unconventional.
 
Designed by the same guy, looks like. I hate it because it's so out of place. Stick that same building in say, NYC and I'd probably be like, "Well that looks pretty stupid," but wouldn't give it much more thought. That "Dancing House," though, is in Prague where the city looks like this:
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I think I just found the architectural equivalent of ketchup on ice cream.
 
People should quit being "art professors" and other useless kinds of professors. If you can do art you should just go do that and make a living. If you can't, fuck it. Get a real job.

Quit supporting a ripoff industry where people go into absurd amounts of debt to get degrees in absolute bullshit.

If you must be a professor, be a professor in a STEM field, where shit that is actually useful gets done.

The kind of morons who kick you out of your profession because they're degenerate perverts whose only purpose in life is to troon out are TOO DUMB to qualify for STEM fields.

Let their fake majors die out so they can die on the streets as they deserve.

Jesus this hurts. Art is a real job. And graphic designers, animators, interior designers, gallery commitioners etc normally need a university/college qualification to get there desired profession.

But nah Art is dumb and anyone could do it! It's not like it's a skill that takes years to master and has a whole industry that makes billions every year.

Dumb people choose art and smart people choose STEM, r-right?
 
Jesus this hurts. Art is a real job. And graphic designers, animators, interior designers, gallery commitioners etc normally need a university/college qualification to get there desired profession.

But nah Art is dumb and anyone could do it! It's not like it's a skill that takes years to master and has a whole industry that makes billions every year.

Dumb people choose art and smart people choose STEM, r-right?

Art is a great job if you get paid for it.
 
And to get into the industry and get paid for it you have to be charismatic, have a good work ethic, have connections and have good skills. All things the tumblrites entering the field don't have!

There's also the part about sucking dicks. This applies regardless of your gender or gender identity. Some dude with a dick is somewhere up the art totem pole and, like it or not, he has a penis.

You have to be really, really good, or be really, really good at sucking dick to avoid that.
 
That's what I think. His Catholic upbringing probably also contributed to him not even being curious enough to look into even the graphic of art books to see what a nude women was.

He was basically a bum in a tiny apartment living the life of a pauper. He didn't use art books at all from what I read, he taught himself entirely from magazines, comics, and newspapers pictures.
 
gotta hand it to them though, it's almost impressive they got a building designed like that


I have to admit, I kinda like it. It's so surreal compared to surrounding, its like cartoony 3d bulding version of regular old buildings. However I can understand why people don't like it. It really sticks out like sore thumb.

Beautiful thing about art; that shit is subjective. Like so subjective, that people sometimes don't realize it. And art college is for that, you can learn great deal about history of art and why something existed for what reason in specific timelines and how you can apply that knowledge. But only for that (if you enroll expecting to learn how to draw, tough shit, that's on you 90% of the time).

Another great thing about art colleges and universities is that at those place, you are definitely more free to be open than elsewhere. In my 8 years of Art studies I've met and heard so many different people and opinions I can't count them on my fingers. Even if I hated it sometimes, I appreciated that aspect of my study because :powerlevel:living in highly conservative and divided society is sometimes really fucking crushing:powerlevel:.

So reading this kinda rustled my jimmies, because fuck that noise. If there is place where you should have access to shitload of various opinions, it should be art institutes, not other fucking way around. Art, whenever you sometimes like it or not, was always there as a part of critique towards society. To silence someone, let alone professor who wanted to have candid discussion on subjects is fucking r.etarded.

I always laughed at the notion of conservatives here stating that LGBT people are abomination and degenerates and pedophiles and what not. More and more as of lately, I'm thinking they are right because of fucktards like these. :heart-empty:
 
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