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could use any advice/tips regarding faces.
i always struggle with them, especially to make them appealing and to get likeness

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I suck at faces too, don't feel bad. I try to use loomis head method to help, I also think using more soft shapes for female and squared shapes for males helps distinguish them. has for placement, I am learning this by using actual people and measuring, I got pretty useful advice from HerbertWest on the "Post your art thread". If you have time, I would read it.

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I quickly sketched the image and highlighted in red important spots to focus on. This is not universal. They usually vary depending on the source. Finding what’s unique about the face you want to draw is crucial. And finding what’s not is important too. For example when I look at this girl particularly, I notice the dominant arch of her brow, the curving of her full lips, the shape of her eyelids and the shape of her hairline. But the nose is quite unremarkable and can be omitted without loosing the likeness.
When you want to capture someone’s likeness, you really just have to take a good look at their dominant features.
Side note - the position of their pupils is important.
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looks great man it looks way more realistic than your usual one but i do recomend to draw from life first and then apply your style later. Mostly cause when you draw from reference you learn how things look in way more detail than you mightve thought initially
Ya, that part I am struggling with, I was trying to actually copy what I see but I keep going into that weird style because my brain goes from "what that shape" to I know what windshield should look, I think after getting some sleep and coming back to it I got it more closer to what it looks like.
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could use any advice/tips regarding faces.
i always struggle with them, especially to make them appealing and to get likeness

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I think it really depends on if your aim is realism or stylized. If your art is going to be stylized I think you’re already doing fine with them. If you’re looking to aim for more realism, my go to book recommendation is Constructive Anatomy by George Bridgman (you can find a PDF of it pretty easily if you don’t want to buy it), as it does a good job of breaking down the human body into smaller and better to understand planes.

Either way, figure out the features that your eyes are instantly drawn to and focus on those to start with. Look at different lolcows and decide what one feature you think is undeniable theirs, and try drawing it in your style. (Rackets Nose is a great option)
 
Drawing over some of your guys' work, hope you don't mind.
could use any advice/tips regarding faces.
i always struggle with them, especially to make them appealing and to get likeness

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Quick tips that don't require you to look at a book (red marks are my edits):
a) Focus on symmetry, if you flip your image it's much easier to see that (3) the chin is protruding on one side as well as making sure that the bottom part of the eyes (1) line up
b) Look at real life examples in order to make sure your references align with how real muscles work. For a closed lip smile, the mouth is a lot closer to the nose since the smile pushes up the line of the mouth.
c) You need to put a lot of attention to the mouth and eyes for these types of stylized characters, make sure that it "feels" balanced. The lips needed the most attention, sometimes less is more.
You're doing great! I think your fundamentals are there, you should just need focus on refining the shapes.
almost finished with the knight
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I really like the smoking knight, very cool. Hope it's in the final. I just wanted to share a suggestion for where the cigarette should be (maybe the smoke too), the one where it's sticking out of his helmet felt like it needed an adjustment. Please feel free to take the idea.
 
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i have started to work on the background
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i find it humarous that the bad guys have a neon sign that tell where they are
unfortunately i will have to rework some shading since now theres a light source in close proximity
mostly on the wizard though
I really like the smoking knight, very cool. Hope it's in the final. I just wanted to share a suggestion for where the cigarette should be (maybe the smoke too), the one where it's sticking out of his helmet felt like it needed an adjustment. Please feel free to take the idea.
well its kind of his thing so yeah he will be smoking in the final thing
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edit thought i could eyeball it
i cant
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Does any one know any tricks with helping with torso proportions? I can never seem to get the distance between the rib cage and pelvis, right.
I'm late to this but the general rule I follow for body proportions is: hips are halfway to head, the breast (male and female) is about halfway between hips and the head. The navel and clavicle are each another half (so the spacing from clavicle, to breast, to navel, and again to the head of the femur are all about equal).
The elbows should reach to the ribcage, and the hands to the femur.

Obviously it will vary. I find the most natural looking (or just the most aesthetic) way to increase height is to add more length to the bottom half of the ribcage.
source: I go to nude model classes fairly regularly with both male/female of all body types and this is a good starting point.
The best way to learn is to study photos and look for universal landmarks, like the corner of the ribcage (7th rib is most prominent), the crest of the pelvis, the navel, head of the femur, etc.

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