Disaster Article 13 has passed : EU - Eurocucks - your memes have no home here. All amendments rejected.

Article 13 approved by European Parliament by 438 votes to 226
September 12, 2018







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MEPs have voted to pass the much-discussed Article 13 of the European Copyright Directive. Of the 751 politicians voting on the directive today in Strasbourg, 438 voted in favour, 226 against and 39 abstained.


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Sylvie Guillaume

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Soulagement après le vote sur la directive #droitdauteur. L'Europe de la diversité culturelle renforcée, une presse indépendante et la liberté d'expression préservées après le vote du rapport @AxelVossMdEP. Les négociations vont pouvoir enfin débuter avec le Conseil.

9:02 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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This section of the proposed legislation would make internet platforms liable for copyrighted content uploaded by their users:

“Article 13 creates an obligation on information society service providers storing and giving access to large amounts of works and other subject-matter uploaded by their users to take appropriate and proportionate measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders and to prevent the availability on their services of content identified by rightholders in cooperation with the service providers”

This would remove the ‘safe harbours’ that have been a long-term bugbear for music rightsholders, who see them as responsible for the ‘value gap’ between the music royalties paid by platforms like YouTube, and those that do not benefit from safe harbours, like Spotify and Apple Music.

Critics of Article 13 argue that it would damage key principles of free expression online by forcing platforms to filter anything that might be copyrighted content, while also damaging the chances of small internet startups to compete with giants like Google/YouTube, who can afford to spend tens of millions of dollars building tools like the latter’s ContentID to comply with the legislation.

The news is already being celebrated by music rightsholders and their representative bodies, but will come as a blow to the technology companies and activists who had been campaigning against the proposal.

Independent body Impala was one of the first to hail the news, describing it as a “great result for creators”. Boss Helen Smith had published an opinion piece earlier this week defending the proposed legislation. “Nobody in our community is suggesting ‘tearing down the internet.’ What we are asking lawmakers to do is to make sure that it works for everyone,” she wrote.




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MEP @AxelVossMdEP Proposal wins the vote, great result for creators #EuropeforCreators

8:59 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Paul Pacifico, boss of UK independent body AIM, hailed the vote as “a great day for music and culture in Europe” in a tweet shortly after the vote. He also published an opinion piece this week, criticising the lobbying tactics of companies and organisations who had opposed Article 13.




Paul Pacifico

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A great day for culture and music in #europe as the #copyrightdirective is adopted by @Europarl_EN including #article13 - thank you #MEPs from all parties for your energetic and highly engaged approach to this very sensitive and important legislation.

9:06 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Google provided this statement to Music Ally following the vote. “People want access to quality news and creative content online,” said a spokesperson. “We’ve always said that more innovation and collaboration are the best way to achieve a sustainable future for the European news and creative sectors, and we’re committed to continued close partnership with these industries.”

[Also passed today was Article 11, which focuses more on the news side of things.)

MEP Julia Reda, who had been one of the prominent critics of the proposals, summarised the fears in a tweet posted after the vote was carried.


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Julia Reda

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Article 13 vote: The European Parliament endorses #uploadfilters for all but the smallest sites and apps. Anything you want to publish will need to first be approved by these filters, perfectly legal content like parodies & memes will be caught in the crosshairs #SaveYourInternet

8:57 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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We’ll be covering reactions to the news in the coming hours here, so check back on this story regularly for updates.
https://musically.com/2018/09/12/article-13-approved-by-european-parliament-by-438-votes-to-226/

EU approves controversial internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’
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Key provisions were amended to reduce potential harm, but critics say vote is ‘catastrophic’
By James Vincent@jjvincent Sep 12, 2018, 7:12am EDTSHARE
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The European Parliament has voted on changes to the Copyright Directive, a piece of legislation intended to update copyright for the internet age. In a session this morning, MEPs approved amended versions of the directive’s most controversial provisions: Articles 11 and 13, dubbed by critics as the “link tax” and “upload filter.”

Article 11 is intended to give publishers and newspapers a way to make money when companies like Google link to their stories, while Article 13 requires platforms like YouTube and Facebook to scan uploaded content to stop the unlicensed sharing of copyrighted material. Critics say these two provisions pose a dire threat to the free flow of information online, and will be open to abuse by copyright trolls and censors.

READ MORE: EU COPYRIGHT DIRECTIVE: WHAT’S AT STAKE
Defenders of the Copyright Directive and its controversial clauses say this is an unfair characterization. They point to existing laws and newly-introduced amendments that will block the worst excesses of this legislation (like, for example, a law that excuses parodies and memes from copyright claims). They say that the campaign against the directive has been funded by US tech giants eager to retain their control over the web’s platforms.

In remarks following the vote in Parliament this morning, MEP Axel Voss, who has led the charge on introducing Articles 11 and 13 thanked his fellow politicians “for the job we have done together.” “This is a good sign for the creative industries in Europe,” said Voss.

Opposing MEPs like Julia Reda of the Pirate Party described the outcome as “catastrophic.”

It’s important to note that this is far from the end of the story for the Copyright Directive and its impact on the web. The legislation approved today still faces a final vote in the European Parliament in January (where it’s possible, though very unlikely, it will be rejected). After that, individual EU member states will still get to choose how to put the directive in law. In other words, each country will be able to interpret the directive as they see fit.

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

 
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Sorry, but here's a little truism for you: in a democracy you get the government you deserve.

The US got Trump, the EU got Belgiumed.

I take offense to you insinuating the utterly mismanaged city of Brussels (great place for the EU to make its headquarters, really) is seen as "Belgian".
It's as Belgian as London is British and New York is American: technically correct, but only in isolation compared to the other parts of the country.

As I am one of the few Eurofags on KF, I'll update the thread should any grand changes occur.
 
Berlin Kiwi here.

German youtubers want to hold demonstration tomorrow in Germany.
In Berlin are 3 shitty Youtuber on stage.

Two news youtuber.
"Mr. Trashpack"
Do I need to say more?
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"Herr Newstime"
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one Vlogger(and lolcow) "Tanzverbot"
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I think I will go tomorrow to the demo for Kiwi Channel.
Yuusha-sama is live there on site for Kiwi farms!!!!


Have fun at this fucking trash fire.
Godspeed you brave bastard. By the looks of things you're going to need it.
I take offense to you insinuating the utterly mismanaged city of Brussels (great place for the EU to make its headquarters, really) is seen as "Belgian".
It's as Belgian as London is British and New York is American: technically correct, but only in isolation compared to the other parts of the country.

As I am one of the few Eurofags on KF, I'll update the thread should any grand changes occur.
This place is lousy with Euros. They're seem like more of a daytime crowd than nighttime. To be fair, there are a lot of Bongs.
 
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Does the EU even have any power? Are they going to send Interpol after pirates?
 
Does the EU even have any power? Are they going to send Interpol after pirates?

The EU wields great economic power to enforce its regs. So it'll punish people who don't comply with economic acts. Of course, the problem is support for the EU is decaying in countries it fucked over.
 
I will make a Megathread about the protest.
I will cover Germany and will be live at the protest in Berlin, to get a good view of it.
Kiwi news and Pew news are the only unbiased news outlets for me! :biggrin:
I hope other euro kiwis will cover their respective countries.

That is a protest map with locations where most protest are hold.(Around Germany)https://savetheinternet.info/demos
You can change the language to different euro languages.
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There will be many youtubers on these events, which should bring in many people.
Antifa and radical right wingers will most likely join the fray.
I hope some small companies will join, because they also get fucked by the bill.
I hope these protests are successful:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:
As it was with TTIP, Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.

But in my heart of hearts I'm a kiwi and want to see this crash and burn.
At Least we euros have something funny before we all get bullet.
As I posted before some youtuber are lolcows so it will be interesting.
Antifa and right winger are also a great combi.
Some days ago german europe politicians have claimed that all the buzz around the internet are just bots.
People were really angry.
If people are interested I can post the new bill, it's in EN. (If it wasn't posted before)
 
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I will make a Megathread about the protest.
I will cover Germany and will be live at the protest in Berlin, to get a good view of it.
Kiwi news and Pew news are the only unbiased news outlets for me! :biggrin:
I hope other euro kiwis will cover their respective countries.

That is a protest map with locations where most protest are hold.(Around Germany)https://savetheinternet.info/demos
You can change the language to different euro languages.
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There will be many youtubers on these events, which should bring in many people.
Antifa and radical right wingers will most likely join the fray.
I hope some small companies will join, because they also get fucked by the bill.
I hope these protests are successful:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:
As it was with TTIP, Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership.

But in my heart of hearts I'm a kiwi and want to see this crash and burn.
At Least we euros have something funny before we all get bullet.
As I posted before some youtuber are lolcows so it will be interesting.
Antifa and right winger are also are great combi.
Some days ago german europe politicians have claimed that all the buzz around the internet are just bots.
People were really angry.
If people are interested I can post the new bill, it's in EN. (If it wasn't posted before)

TFW most protests are in my country :heart-full:
 
The EU wields great economic power to enforce its regs. So it'll punish people who don't comply with economic acts. Of course, the problem is support for the EU is decaying in countries it fucked over.

It'll be interesting to see the results of the EU elections coming up this year. Both the number of Eurosceptic MEPs, and the turnout.
 

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Kiwi reporting.
Today was a demonstration in Berlin.
The demonstration wasn't that big. (It wasn't the main demonstration)
2 livestreams:
I saw Youtubers and talked to them.
Youtuber I have seen:
MrTrashpack
Herr Newstime
HandofBlood
Tanzverbot
etc.
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Around the corner are even more protester.
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I bump this thread.
Kiwi reporting.
Today was a demonstration in Berlin.
The demonstration wasn't that big. (It wasn't the main demonstration)
2 livestreams:
I saw Youtubers and talked to them.
Youtuber I have seen:
MrTrashpack
Herr Newstime
HandofBlood
Tanzverbot
etc.
Christoph Krachten former CSO from Mediakraft Networks GmbH (German Multi-channel network based in Munich. The company publishes and markets online video content and operates YouTube creator networks in Germany.)

My own pictures.
If interested, I post more.
The EU needs to call Macron to gas all this dissenters.
 
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