At what point should someone kill themselves?

[zero-who]

Is there a point that, when crossed, means that self-inflicted death would be better than life for an individual? If so, what is it?

My guess would be a sex offender conviction. Your life is pretty much fucked if you get one of those. But that's definitely not the only point of no return. Fucked up terminal diseases I think you could also make a case for, like that one where it turns every muscle in your body into bone, or becoming a quadriplegic or something.

 

[Mayor Adam West]

When it essentially isn’t suicide. The perfect example of this is those who jumped from the buildings on 9/11. When faced with imminent death by fire, they chose imminent death by falling. They’re not killing themselves but rather picking their poison. Otherwise, never.

 

[Pimpleking55]

When it essentially isn’t suicide. The perfect example of this is those who jumped from the buildings on 9/11. When faced with imminent death by fire, they chose imminent death by falling. They’re not killing themselves but rather picking their poison. Otherwise, never.

/thread

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Odd that this thread popped up because I just saw something the other day that made me wonder about this sort of thing.

There is a video on youtube about a queer homeless guy and his dog in Toronto who exited foster care as a youth. He's been on the street since he was 16 and is now 24. Can't find a job, he has applied but can't get a call back anywhere and he can't get social housing. He's now self medicating with the ''fent''.

The reporter who was talking with him asked him what he would have done differently in his teens to avoid the situation and what he would have told his younger self. His answer was ''I would've told myself to commit suicide'' and he meant it. This guy was a fairly gentle spirit, queer as they come (an admitted gay man) and definitely not cut out to survive this society. While people could argue he could ''toughen up'' or ''joint the military'' or something I don't think he was capable for that.

While this is controversial I think suicide is necessary when a person realizes there's no way to survive their circumstances. either the hole is so deep they can't climb out or they're set for nothing but further misery (think a neurodegenerative disease).

 

[PaulBearer]

'I'm trans'...then.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Right when you decide to buy your first Reddit gold.

 

[Goyslop Muncher]

After defending/promoting/(((joking about))) pedo shit

 

[I'm Retarded?]

life is what you make of it. misery is at least in part a self-inflicted condition, as many philosophers can be paraphrased to say, life happens, and you can choose to either cry about it or chad your way through hardship finding ways to enjoy what you have. that means there's no concrete inflection point where death is definitely better, it depends on how shit you are at coping, and there's always room for improvement. that said, if you're one of those modern "political activists" AKA a retard that spends the majority of every day on social media screaming at people over political nonsense, it's time to give up your share of oxygen

 

[Mega Man II Intro - GB]

I believe no matter where you are in life you can find meaning in it by helping others. For example that queer street guy above could find meaning in helping other street people. Sure he'll eventually be murdered by an addict but while he's alive he might do some good and even get others off the street.

 

[PaleTay]

Most people probably should objectively, life is just about distracting yourself from that and collectively living for others who are doing the same and that's the challenge. For example, growing up most people had close friends they saw almost daily for years but once you reach adulthood you have to sacrifice that for your careers. At the point where you're working a job you hate, with neighbors who annoy you, and you're and looking forward to vacations, music festivals, and reunions.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

People with terminal illnesses or who are otherwise facing painful deaths choosing to go out on their own terms, and paedophiles.

Pretty much everyone else is redeemable.

 

[glass_houses]

I watched a close relative get eaten alive by an extended series of small strokes. Dying one small slice at a time. The death of the mind, particularly a slow, self-aware decline while the body vegetates around it, is one of the most horrifying things I can conceive of. If that starts happening to me, I'm putting my house in order and making my peace with the world. I certainly would not blame anyone who chose to do the same.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Almost everyone who has had thoughts of suicide and decides not to do it, reaches a point of contentment or happiness later where they're really glad they didn't give in during a moment of weakness. Same with people who fought through the idea of getting a divorce.

Fear and despair can be bad and fleeting counsellors.

If you ever find yourself asking questions like "what if things never get better?", at least also ask the inverse: "what if things get better?"

 

[Wormy]

At the point you've got half the country and a good chunk of the internet seeking to have you shot.

 

[Anal Eclipse]

This sounds dark but suicide would be valid if there are no other options for you to take. Personally I had a bunch of hard times but I knew I was not entirely fucked and I still had a fighting chance at life. Only time will tell...

 

[Fek]

No kill self, plz. Figure out why your life makes you feel that way and instead experience the bliss of overcoming that shit. Run on pure spite if you have to.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

As a general rule, I never consider suicide an option, and I refuse to tell others to KYS no matter how upset I may be with them.

That said, when it gets to the point where someone fucks up bad enough to the point where death is the only way out, chances are they already did something that would warrant something like capital punishment.

But then again, that isn't suicide.

 

[E.C.Brunte]

Painful terminal illness. Like, say you are there when Chernobyl went critical and you got dosed with enough rads to microwave a puppy. Radiation sickness to that degree is the most horrid way to die. At that point, yeah. I think the choice to go out on your own terms is acceptable.

Some cancers can get just as bad. Honestly it is a major fear of mine. Getting a terminal illness.