Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Protistology]

“….Jesus Christ, dude. How do you out-pathetic me wanking it to an Annie crystal?”

And Annie remembers it all . . . and never mentions it for some reason . . . even though she bitches about Hatch talking all the time

 

[Fougaro]

As I said more or less earlier, I unironically consider Eren's character arc to be genius on Isayama's part. Most modern shounen anime are basically nothing but shallow escapist power fantasies for losers and incels. However, Kinosayama initially baits the audience with Eren starting out as your standard whiny shounen hero who becomes a badass that said losers and icels fawn over and project themselves onto, only for Eren to be turned into the whiniest and most pathetic simp in all of recent fiction - someone who even outsimps Jon Snow - and basically the literal Elliot Rodger of anime. With Eren the shounen audience got at the very end a character that doesn't represent their power fantasies, but someone that represents who they actually are.

This is almost Kojima levels of meta trolling the audience. Or as the man himself would say: "Did you rike it?"

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

As I said more or less earlier, I unironically consider Eren's character arc to be genius on Isayama's part. Most modern shounen anime are basically nothing but shallow escapist power fantasies for losers and incels. However, Kinosayama initially baits the audience with Eren starting out as your standard whiny shounen hero who becomes a badass that said losers and icels fawn over and project themselves onto, only for Eren to be turned into the whiniest and most pathetic simp in all of recent fiction - someone who even outsimps Jon Snow - and basically the literal Elliot Rodger of anime. With Eren the shounen audience got at the very end a character that doesn't represent their power fantasies, but someone that represents who they actually are.

To be honest, his early appeal was more that he managed to overcome hurdles by being persistent, hardworking, and a team player. Even after he got his meat mech it was made repeatedly clear that there were concrete limitations to what he could accomplish on his own, and every new trick he learned took time and practice to properly utilize, time and practice which he never hesitated to put in because the dude had a goal and was willing to back it up with effort. That's one of the things that made the timeskip so jarring; suddenly they turned him from an abrasive everyman to a Walter White power fantasy that nobody asked for, with motivations and methods that made no sense. Then they gave us the stunning revelation that his motivations and methods were indeed stupid and nonsensical.

 

[Idiot Asshole]

As I said more or less earlier, I unironically consider Eren's character arc to be genius on Isayama's part. Most modern shounen anime are basically nothing but shallow escapist power fantasies for losers and incels. However, Kinosayama initially baits the audience with Eren starting out as your standard whiny shounen hero who becomes a badass that said losers and icels fawn over and project themselves onto, only for Eren to be turned into the whiniest and most pathetic simp in all of recent fiction - someone who even outsimps Jon Snow - and basically the literal Elliot Rodger of anime. With Eren the shounen audience got at the very end a character that doesn't represent their power fantasies, but someone that represents who they actually are.

This is almost Kojima levels of meta trolling the audience. Or as the man himself would say: "Did you rike it?"

Your theory would have some merit to it if we didn't know that Isayama wasn't a gigantic edgelord and weirdo himself. If anything Eren is his own unironic self-insert, I doubt that the guy who kept changing his story's genre and tone depending on what other series he wanted to steal from at that moment would have the awareness to make his giant-zombie fighting manga a metacommentary on otaku fandom as a whole. Hideaki Anno he is not, and Anno is a hack himself.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue]

Eren wasn't in the right mind. Dude was literally in final moments and finally just breaking down mentally. He's reverted to a child like self; his true self. Yeah he's selfish but, thats the literal point. I'll defend him anyday. As for genociding most the world? Well, kinda not much else he could do. Eldians will never be treated like human. Humanity will never leave them the fuck alone. If they keep the titans as WMDs that will backfire on them. If they rid the titan powers. That too will backfire. It was either kill or be killed.
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I do enjoy eventually the yeagerists ruined everything.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

And Annie remembers it all . . . and never mentions it for some reason . . . even though she bitches about Hatch talking all the time

With how it’s implied Armin did that shit because of Bertolt’s memories influencing him, going to bet that he did that shit around Annie back in warrior camp

Eren wasn't in the right mind. Dude was literally in final moments and finally just breaking down mentally. He's reverted to a child like self; his true self. Yeah he's selfish but, thats the literal point. I'll defend him anyday. As for genociding most the world? Well, kinda not much else he could do. Eldians will never be treated like human. Humanity will never leave them the fuck alone. If they keep the titans as WMDs that will backfire on them. If they rid the titan powers. That too will backfire. It was either kill or be killed.
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I do enjoy eventually the yeagerists ruined everything.

Thats fine and all but Eren is a childish retard post timeskip given he never bothered to do anything with his future sight and doubled down on following it when a girl rejected him. He’s a pathetic loser who doesn’t care about anything besides Mikasa or the retarded lelouch plan he made where he made sure that the world would declare war on his country.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

You can't convince me that the entire last arc of this thing wasn't just one big shitpost.

Like, it might've started off serious, but it was a fucking meme by the end of it, and Isayama fully knew that. He's an edgelord, but I'm dead certain that he realized at some point that the only way to truly hurt his readers like he wanted to was to take the story that they loved so much, and turn it into the biggest joke imaginable.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Double-posting, but this was too funny not to share. Yes, this is real, and yes, this really is Eren's Japanese VA. (archive)

Spoiler: sometimes google translate is right even when it's wrong

To be fair, it's supposed to mean "terrible" as in "awe-inspiring", but either way it's accurate.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Double-posting, but this was too funny not to share. Yes, this is real, and yes, this really is Eren's Japanese VA. (archive)

Spoiler: sometimes google translate is right even when it's wrong

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To be fair, it's supposed to mean "terrible" as in "awe-inspiring", but either way it's accurate.

Is it a thing for Japanese actors and voice actors to trash talk their own work, if it turns out to be terrible? It's reminding me of how Mark Hamill and the other Star Wars Disney Sequel actors started trash talking those movies.

 

[Protistology]

Is it a thing for Japanese actors and voice actors to trash talk their own work, if it turns out to be terrible? It's reminding me of how Mark Hamill and the other Star Wars Disney Sequel actors started trash talking those movies.

No, it would ruin their reputation in the industry. Although, the author of a manga called Gal Cleaning did insult everyone for hating his work when his manga sold the least in manga history.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Is it a thing for Japanese actors and voice actors to trash talk their own work, if it turns out to be terrible? It's reminding me of how Mark Hamill and the other Star Wars Disney Sequel actors started trash talking those movies.

Not really since as @Protistology said, it would harm their reputations. Plus Eren's VA probably meant terrible in the way to refer to it as a tragic story as he had been fellating the ending on twitter when it came out when there was no obligation to praise the source material for an actor.

Though minor nitpick, the Star Wars sequel trilogy actors only trashed their movies after it was released and they were not obligated by contracted, hell even Jew Jew joined in.

But I do look forward to this trashfire animated, and hope there is a meltdown though I also expect pretentious pseudo-intellectual praise.

 

[Random Internet Person]

But I do look forward to this trashfire animated, and hope there is a meltdown though I also expect pretentious pseudo-intellectual praise.

Honestly, the only real "deeper" take I can come up with is "maybe the manga should have ended after they reached the ocean".

 

[Thiletonomics]

But I do look forward to this trashfire animated, and hope there is a meltdown though I also expect pretentious pseudo-intellectual praise.

Would the said pretentious pseudo-intellectual praise be even worse than the said praise that The Last of Us 2 got?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Would the said pretentious pseudo-intellectual praise be even worse than the said praise that The Last of Us 2 got?

It's more of pseudo-intellectual anime youtubers like this guy

 

[Gar For Archer]

Honestly, the only real "deeper" take I can come up with is "maybe the manga should have ended after they reached the ocean".

If we want to end the story there:
- Inside the basement is actually a super Titan serum that can fully awaken and overclock Eren’s Founding Titan abilities, and a note from Grisha saying exactly what it does. We see Eren’s reaction to the note, but we do not see what it says.
- Armin and Eren and co. make it to the sea. It is revealed that the rest of the world had been destroyed by a massive Titan outbreak (perhaps triggered by Grisha some time before the events of the story). The other Titan shifters aren’t soldiers trying to infiltrate Paradis, they’re the last survivors of Marley, human weapons meant to enforce mutually assured destruction, which they are now planning on carrying out.
- This leads up to a final battle between the three shifters against Eren. Except they each also have a trick up their sleeves - serum for the remaining three remaining “special titans” that they had been keeping as a last-resort powerup. The newly powered up Titan shifters handily defeat Eren, at which point he activates his own last resort to save Paradis and injects himself with the super serum from the basement, which initiates a one-way transformation into the Founding Titan.
- With its powers, he screams towards the sky, commanding every single Titan in the world to STOP. The Founding Titan continually broadcasts this psychic wave - cue montage showing Titans in various familiar locations standing up in place and turning to face towards Eren. We see some of them show signs of crystallization at their fingers and toes. This will be accompanied by “visions” of Eren freeing people from their Titan shells.
- As the montage ends, cut back to Eren. His Titan has now taken on a petrified, tree-like form, most of its energy being used to project its psychic signal. Using its tremendous power has left Eren permanently fused with the Founding Titan, but for the sake of plot convenience he’ll be partially ejected from its neck so his friends can have their last words with him before he loses his individuality and fully merges into PATHS, where he’s created a new world for everyone who “died” as a Titan.
- The story ends with everyone who’s still alive alive, everyone who was dead staying dead, and Eren, the other Titan Shifters, and every single person who was in a Titan ending up inside PATHS.

So there, the story would end with Eren achieving his Shonen protagonist goal (killing all the Titans/saving his homeland) and his personal goal (seeing the ocean). By sacrificing himself, he creates the Titan-tree that continuously broadcasts a signal suppressing the Titans and causing them to slowly petrify, and situates himself in a spot where he’ll forever look out towards the sea.

This will likely require rewriting some of the background lore, but should be mostly compatible with the original premise. I don’t think you can end the story at the ocean without also addressing the whole Titan problem, because that would leave the entire premise of the story unsolved. And giving Eren a massive powerup that requires him to sacrifice himself to use seems just about the only way to really deal with it.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

If we want to end the story there:
- Inside the basement is actually a super Titan serum that can fully awaken and overclock Eren’s Founding Titan abilities, and a note from Grisha saying exactly what it does. We see Eren’s reaction to the note, but we do not see what it says.
- Armin and Eren and co. make it to the sea. It is revealed that the rest of the world had been destroyed by a massive Titan outbreak (perhaps triggered by Grisha some time before the events of the story). The other Titan shifters aren’t soldiers trying to infiltrate Paradis, they’re the last survivors of Marley, human weapons meant to enforce mutually assured destruction, which they are now planning on carrying out.
- This leads up to a final battle between the three shifters against Eren. Except they each also have a trick up their sleeves - serum for the remaining three remaining “special titans” that they had been keeping as a last-resort powerup. The newly powered up Titan shifters handily defeat Eren, at which point he activates his own last resort to save Paradis and injects himself with the super serum from the basement, which initiates a one-way transformation into the Founding Titan.
- With its powers, he screams towards the sky, commanding every single Titan in the world to STOP. The Founding Titan continually broadcasts this psychic wave - cue montage showing Titans in various familiar locations standing up in place and turning to face towards Eren. We see some of them show signs of crystallization at their fingers and toes. This will be accompanied by “visions” of Eren freeing people from their Titan shells.
- As the montage ends, cut back to Eren. His Titan has now taken on a petrified, tree-like form, most of its energy being used to project its psychic signal. Using its tremendous power has left Eren permanently fused with the Founding Titan, but for the sake of plot convenience he’ll be partially ejected from its neck so his friends can have their last words with him before he loses his individuality and fully merges into PATHS, where he’s created a new world for everyone who “died” as a Titan.
- The story ends with everyone who’s still alive alive, everyone who was dead staying dead, and Eren, the other Titan Shifters, and every single person who was in a Titan ending up inside PATHS.

So there, the story would end with Eren achieving his Shonen protagonist goal (killing all the Titans/saving his homeland) and his personal goal (seeing the ocean). By sacrificing himself, he creates the Titan-tree that continuously broadcasts a signal suppressing the Titans and causing them to slowly petrify, and situates himself in a spot where he’ll forever look out towards the sea.

This will likely require rewriting some of the background lore, but should be mostly compatible with the original premise. I don’t think you can end the story at the ocean without also addressing the whole Titan problem, because that would leave the entire premise of the story unsolved. And giving Eren a massive powerup that requires him to sacrifice himself to use seems just about the only way to really deal with it.

Honestly with a bit of polish this idea would've been better than the whole idiocy that was "ENTIRE WORLD IS RACIST" and Eren's progression to being the fusion of Elliot Rodger and Chris Chan

 

[Random Internet Person]

If we want to end the story there:
- Inside the basement is actually a super Titan serum that can fully awaken and overclock Eren’s Founding Titan abilities, and a note from Grisha saying exactly what it does. We see Eren’s reaction to the note, but we do not see what it says.
- Armin and Eren and co. make it to the sea. It is revealed that the rest of the world had been destroyed by a massive Titan outbreak (perhaps triggered by Grisha some time before the events of the story). The other Titan shifters aren’t soldiers trying to infiltrate Paradis, they’re the last survivors of Marley, human weapons meant to enforce mutually assured destruction, which they are now planning on carrying out.
- This leads up to a final battle between the three shifters against Eren. Except they each also have a trick up their sleeves - serum for the remaining three remaining “special titans” that they had been keeping as a last-resort powerup. The newly powered up Titan shifters handily defeat Eren, at which point he activates his own last resort to save Paradis and injects himself with the super serum from the basement, which initiates a one-way transformation into the Founding Titan.
- With its powers, he screams towards the sky, commanding every single Titan in the world to STOP. The Founding Titan continually broadcasts this psychic wave - cue montage showing Titans in various familiar locations standing up in place and turning to face towards Eren. We see some of them show signs of crystallization at their fingers and toes. This will be accompanied by “visions” of Eren freeing people from their Titan shells.
- As the montage ends, cut back to Eren. His Titan has now taken on a petrified, tree-like form, most of its energy being used to project its psychic signal. Using its tremendous power has left Eren permanently fused with the Founding Titan, but for the sake of plot convenience he’ll be partially ejected from its neck so his friends can have their last words with him before he loses his individuality and fully merges into PATHS, where he’s created a new world for everyone who “died” as a Titan.
- The story ends with everyone who’s still alive alive, everyone who was dead staying dead, and Eren, the other Titan Shifters, and every single person who was in a Titan ending up inside PATHS.

So there, the story would end with Eren achieving his Shonen protagonist goal (killing all the Titans/saving his homeland) and his personal goal (seeing the ocean). By sacrificing himself, he creates the Titan-tree that continuously broadcasts a signal suppressing the Titans and causing them to slowly petrify, and situates himself in a spot where he’ll forever look out towards the sea.

This will likely require rewriting some of the background lore, but should be mostly compatible with the original premise. I don’t think you can end the story at the ocean without also addressing the whole Titan problem, because that would leave the entire premise of the story unsolved. And giving Eren a massive powerup that requires him to sacrifice himself to use seems just about the only way to really deal with it.

Honestly with a bit of polish this idea would've been better than the whole idiocy that was "ENTIRE WORLD IS RACIST" and Eren's progression to being the fusion of Elliot Rodger and Chris Chan

Well, I mused about the ocean because it was after the timeskip where everything seemed to go off the rails if the OP is anything to go by, and I felt the "seeing the ocean part" was a good place to end it to avoid the pain. This ending here....no complaints.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Cole Sprouse, a.k.a. that guy who plays Jughead on the glorious dumpster-fire that is Riverdale, is going as Eren for Halloween. (archive) (archive)

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

I'm not surprised that the guy that claimed his Tumblr blog to be his 'social experiment' to the point that Tumblr users made a #cowardly cole hashtag long after he left would cosplay as another edgelord.

 

[Protistology]

I'm not surprised that the guy that claimed his Tumblr blog to be his 'social experiment' to the point that Tumblr users made a #cowardly cole hashtag long after he left would cosplay as another edgelord.

Isn't he also a self-proclaimed "asexual"?