Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Random Internet Person]

I'm not.

From what the series shows us, with the exception of Mikasa's dad, Kuchel, and I guess her, and Kenny's grandfather, every Ackerman is shown to be a stupid, insane, overpowered, violent yandere. The only one outside that isn't completely that is Kenny, and that's only because he's not a complete idiot like the other ones are.

Despite Paradis' government (and well, every government in AoT) being a complete shitshow, I fully understand why they didn't want more of them running around.

Funny, because I think that when Eren first revealed his Titan powers, I think there was talk in series about if they’ve truly reached the “beggars can’t be choosers” phase of their situation in terms of trying to resolve the conflict.

She seemed more interested in studying them for what they are than doing mad scientist stuff, I think. I'm more surprised the government didn't forcibly sttempt to breed an army of them now that you mention it though.

Yeah I kind of forgot that. At the very least, the fact that she didn’t at least entertain the idea seems like a waste, even if it was just to hear it from someone and just go “nah, that’s fucking stupid”. At the same time, I really think you could have easily gone the mad scientist route with Hanji (at the very least she had some eccentric moments).

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Light seems to have been corrupted by the Death Note, he initially had a lot of internal turmoil about even killing criminals. I remember him staggering down an alleyway vomiting and close to discarding it, and it really fucked with him, but once he decided to keep using it things went south pretty quickly.

I think they should have focused on that part of him more, instead it's like 1 page in a flashback.

I agree with this to an extent. What I find interesting is during the time when he had his memory wiped, Light was shown to still have issues. He wasn't nearly as sadistic, or cruel, but he was still emotionally immature, impulsive, and quick-tempered.

Now that isn't to say that him just being those things automatically makes him a bad person, but those things combined with his sheer disinterest of everything, and the fact that he flew off the handle, and declared himself a god in the very first episode does point to him being already kinda fucked up.

A key thing to remember is that even bad people can feel guilt, or remorse, and a sociopath can have morals. While part of me wishes they had shown more insight into Light's psyche regarding those things as well as his life outside of being Kira, another part of me feels like that would ruin one of the series' greatest strengths which is the moral ambiguity.

Funny, because I think that when Eren first revealed his Titan powers, I think there was talk in series about if they’ve truly reached the “beggars can’t be choosers” phase of their situation in terms of trying to resolve the conflict.

Those people were either part of the SC, or outliers. The majority of the government wanted to dissect him, and/or just kill him.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Those people were either part of the SC, or outliers. The majority of the government wanted to dissect him, and/or just kill him.

You know, for as much as we rag on Isayama for trying to do things more complex than “kill the threat to humanity, I still think there could have been potential to have it where it was more than that kill ‘em all fest before the basement, and probably keep things kind of simple. Although I guess the trial was as good a point of any to cap off that conundrum.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Although I guess the trial was as good a point of any to cap off that conundrum.

Considering how the trial is by far the dumbest thing in the entire series, continuing what it was even over would honestly have just made AoT even worse.

 

[Ravana]

Part two of season what, 4? went on sale so I’m one step closer to finally watching the series once the last set comes out and then goes on sale

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly I was thinking about it, and man I think AOT really needed another Kenny, and the only villain characters that came close to that was Floch and Zeke, but Floch more since he became the goofiest character in AOT, like how can you not love this guy's cheeky smile

 

[DeadwastePrime]

youre telling me we still havent reached bird! eren yet?

 

[Bunny Tracks]

More AOE insanity.

Spoiler: "only mean bullies support genocide"

Spoiler: irony

Spoiler: birbs

 

[Doctor of Autism]

More AOE insanity.

Spoiler: "only mean bullies support genocide"

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Spoiler: irony

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The irony about these theories about how Seasons 1-3 explored things deeper than Season 4 is correct. However, it's completely wrong because Eren is an actual aggressor given he's the nigga who made sure that the genocide can happen and made sure to set the world against his country.

This wouldn't be bad at all per say, but it's bad when people forget the fact Eren caused all of it including Isayama and act like he's some good guy. Hell murdering all your enemies is more immature than diplomacy since it would take adults to compromise and work together.

Now Eren doing this shit would be good if it was just within his nature to be destructive, and it was the easy solution for him to kill everyone it's not a tough solution.

Also the AOE theorists are delusional and are just living in a bubble given Isayama pretty much made it clear he'll stick with his vision, for however fucked it is than make a new ending to pander to westerners mad that the anime equivalent of nuking Japan didn't have more bombs (cause literally Isayama pretty much made the rumbling as another autistic WWII allegory).

 

[Bunny Tracks]

The irony about these theories about how Seasons 1-3 explored things deeper than Season 4 is correct. However, it's completely wrong because Eren is an actual aggressor given he's the nigga who made sure that the genocide can happen and made sure to set the world against his country.

This wouldn't be bad at all per say, but it's bad when people forget the fact Eren caused all of it including Isayama and act like he's some good guy. Hell murdering all your enemies is more immature than diplomacy since it would take adults to compromise and work together.

Now Eren doing this shit would be good if it was just within his nature to be destructive, and it was the easy solution for him to kill everyone it's not a tough solution.

Also the AOE theorists are delusional and are just living in a bubble given Isayama pretty much made it clear he'll stick with his vision, for however fucked it is than make a new ending to pander to westerners mad that the anime equivalent of nuking Japan didn't have more bombs (cause literally Isayama pretty much made the rumbling as another autistic WWII allegory).

The best part is that third example is so close to actually having a point about the main theme of the series, and how the Rumbling is the final end result of it, but it just ends up completely missing that, and instead just continuing to spout typical AOE nonsense.

The second one is just pure wish-fulfillment, though.

"A satisfying and rewarding conclusion". Yeah, sure, if you ignore all the loose ends, and cop-outs like Paradis going through a civil war, the Ackertalk, the Rumbling rekting the world's environment, the time-travel shenanigans, Eren facing any meaningful consequences outside of him feeling sad, everyone continuing to ignore Eren's actual character in general, and whatever the fuck that worm thing was.

That's my biggest problem with AOE. The ending they want isn't even good. It's just one where Eren wins, and wins without facing any actual consequences for what he's done.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

That's my biggest problem with AOE. The ending they want isn't even good. It's just one where Eren wins, and wins without facing any actual consequences for what he's done.

I don't know what the average ending everyone wants is, but I assume it's "Eren genocides the world, goes home happy"? That would be a pretty shitty ending too, if so.

Either of these would be satisfactory imo:

1. Eren goes through with his attack and completes it, but is killed by the end, yet Paradis is safe.

2. He still only gets 80% done and is killed, but not because he planned for it, he just fails. Paradis still gets wiped out. (I wouldn't like this one but it's an improvement)

Either way, throw the twists/revelations out (he actually caused his own mother's death, planned his own defeat, etc).

Oh, and in any case, maybe get rid of the whole making out with a severed head thing while they're at it. If they gotta keep the scene, make it a hug or something.

 

[Protistology]

I don't know what the average ending everyone wants is, but I assume it's "Eren genocides the world, goes home happy"? That would be a pretty shitty ending too, if so.

Either of these would be satisfactory imo:

1. Eren goes through with his attack and completes it, but is killed by the end, yet Paradis is safe.

2. He still only gets 80% done and is killed, but not because he planned for it, he just fails. Paradis still gets wiped out. (I wouldn't like this one but it's an improvement)

Either way, throw the twists/revelations out (he actually caused his own mother's death, planned his own defeat, etc).

Oh, and in any case, maybe get rid of the whole making out with a severed head thing while they're at it. If they gotta keep the scene, make it a hug or something.

I wanted him to kill everyone and then a Marley bombing fleet to destroy Paradis. Hatred causes hatred or something.. Everyone's dead now except the main cast.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I wanted him to kill everyone and then a Marley bombing fleet to destroy Paradis. Hatred causes hatred or something.. Everyone's dead now except the main cast.

If Paradis has to go, then yeah, I'd like to see mutually assured destruction. I think that would piss off a lot of fans, but it's honest better than what we got imo.

I'm more invested in the survival of Paradis than the characters, it just feels like if Paradis is genocided then the series was kinda pointless.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I don't know what the average ending everyone wants is, but I assume it's "Eren genocides the world, goes home happy"? That would be a pretty shitty ending too, if so.

Either of these would be satisfactory imo:

1. Eren goes through with his attack and completes it, but is killed by the end, yet Paradis is safe.

2. He still only gets 80% done and is killed, but not because he planned for it, he just fails. Paradis still gets wiped out. (I wouldn't like this one but it's an improvement)

Either way, throw the twists/revelations out (he actually caused his own mother's death, planned his own defeat, etc).

Oh, and in any case, maybe get rid of the whole making out with a severed head thing while they're at it. If they gotta keep the scene, make it a hug or something.

Except canon said number 1 happened, but number 2 can happen any day now.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Except canon said number 1 happened, but number 2 can happen any day now.

Eren was stopped, and then Paradis was wiped out, so #1 definitely didn't happen.

And what do you mean #2 can happen any day now?

 

[Random Internet Person]

And what do you mean #2 can happen any day now?

In the end, the two kingdoms were going into negotiations. To avoid war I believe.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Eren was stopped, and then Paradis was wiped out.

Not entirely. The tacked on ending basically gives us the setup for some type of Attack on Bortuo style sequel. With the next generation of Paradis kinsfolk picking up the torch of their Titan ancestors with the girl (boy?) and her dog walking into the cursed Ymir tree that has overgrown. The new ending seems to imply heavily that some remnants of the Titans still exist and are heading into the tree to renew their power.

The ending is essentially a reset of things. A new generation of Titans. A new generation of people outside of the Walls dealing with these new Titan threats. Both the people inside and outside of the Walls survived the great Rumbling event. And now we get Attack on Titan Round 2.0 with new characters.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I still say the perfect "out" for the ending would have been if Eren getting to genocide the world came with a price he didn't know he had to pay as far as being driven insane by the power to such a degree ANY humanity inside of him is wiped clean and he's irrevocably reduced to a mindless abomination who's brain can only process one singular thought: kill them all.

That way, Eren "dies" when he gets his genocide initiated (and spends the last moments possessing mental capacities only found in humans going "NO!!! NOT LIKE THIS!" as he realizes that he never thought he'd be reduced to mindless beast status irrevocably and more to the point, it sets up a clean final battle where it's all about killing Eren to stop the Rumbling and no bullshit psychic talks or attempts to justify/denounce shit. Eren dies, no talk about what he did being right or not, and end the show with the survivors stopping the Rumbling with 80% of the planet destroyed and no one knowing WHAT was going to happen next.

 

[Kheapathic]

I don't know what the average ending everyone wants is, but I assume it's "Eren genocides the world, goes home happy"? That would be a pretty shitty ending too, if so.

Either of these would be satisfactory imo:

1. Eren goes through with his attack and completes it, but is killed by the end, yet Paradis is safe.

I consider myself and outlier; but bring on the genocide ending. Whether he lives, dies, or becomes a mindless force of death that wanders the planet. I don't need morality or philosophy; Eren gets angry and does angry boy things, with a 20% more than his planned 80%, the end.

 

[Trombonista]

The Attack Titan is getting a Nendoroid!