Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[Bunny Tracks]

Honestly this talk about Sasha's parents makes me think something.

Are there any actual good parents in the series? Sure the audience can have the characters tell us they are good parents but the only good parents in the series either get killed or tortured, placed offscreen, or are absolute dicks that at best learn their lesson at the very end.

The only good parent that I think stays alive, and remains unharmed is Jean's mom.

Do you think Isayama probably has daddy issues at home?

He absolutely does. There's no doubt in my mind.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

The only good parent that I think stays alive, and remains unharmed is Jean's mom.

I think the only time she ever had any screentime was just in a gag OVA that Isayama didn't even write

He absolutely does. There's no doubt in my mind.

I wonder if he self inserts as Zeke

 

[TheHarbinger]

Are there any actual good parents in the series?

This is the issue with every young adult novel or comic or movie. The worlds in any young adult series are basically only possible when all of the adults are functionally retarded or insane.

These shows and movies are written for a teenage audience so the adult characters are barely there. The parents are absentee and do not exist. Naruto has a city crushing demon inside of him but has no supervision whatsoever and raises himself despite the immense danger. Erin's father turns him into a Titan. Harry Potter's parents hide him in the worst possible place, in a broom closet, rather than have a powerful wizard family watch him or have him grow up at the wizard school. The parents in the Hunger Games do not even fight in the revolution when it happens and just let their kids wage worldwide hunger games level conflict. Because the stories are all about putting kids front and center no matter how stupid the plot ends up being.

It sort of makes sense in Battle Royale or Hunger Games because the premise is that young kids are forced to kill each other to control society. But when the average age of the ninjas or scouts in Naruto or AoT are 14 it stretches credulity. AoT went in the extreme and had kindergarten child soldiers infiltrate the walls which was hilarious in retrospect. Like a bunch of five-year-olds graduated Navy Seal training and understood the politics and nuances of being a spy.

 

[TVB]

This is the issue with every young adult novel or comic or movie. The worlds in any young adult series are basically only possible when all of the adults are functionally retarded or insane.

These shows and movies are written for a teenage audience so the adult characters are barely there. The parents are absentee and do not exist. Naruto has a city crushing demon inside of him but has no supervision whatsoever and raises himself despite the immense danger. Erin's father turns him into a Titan. Harry Potter's parents hide him in the worst possible place, in a broom closet, rather than have a powerful wizard family watch him or have him grow up at the wizard school. The parents in the Hunger Games do not even fight in the revolution when it happens and just let their kids wage worldwide hunger games level conflict. Because the stories are all about putting kids front and center no matter how stupid the plot ends up being.

It sort of makes sense in Battle Royale or Hunger Games because the premise is that young kids are forced to kill each other to control society. But when the average age of the ninjas or scouts in Naruto or AoT are 14 it stretches credulity. AoT went in the extreme and had kindergarten child soldiers infiltrate the walls which was hilarious in retrospect. Like a bunch of five-year-olds graduated Navy Seal training and understood the politics and nuances of being a spy.

*cough cough* the state of Tomb Raider 2013 onward

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Honestly this talk about Sasha's parents makes me think something.

Are there any actual good parents in the series? Sure the audience can have the characters tell us they are good parents but the only good parents in the series either get killed or tortured, placed offscreen, or are absolute dicks that at best learn their lesson at the very end.

Do you think Isayama probably has daddy issues at home?

To believe that you'd have to believe Isayama is a good enough writer to deliberately channel his own issues into his work.

This is the same guy who stumbled into writing a gold mine, and then decided to completely change it to mimic whatever cool movie/show he saw that week.

More likey he just doesn't know what he's doing and thought having good people die just for the sake of it is dark and deep and edgy totally saying something.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

To believe that you'd have to believe Isayama is a good enough writer to deliberately channel his own issues into his work.

This is the same guy who stumbled into writing a gold mine, and then decided to completely change it to mimic whatever cool movie/show he saw that week.

More likey he just doesn't know what he's doing and thought having good people die just for the sake of it is dark and deep and edgy totally saying something.

The thing is that the entire idea behind Attack on Titan was inspired by how Isayama was bullied growing up and being isolated. Like some of the titans were modeled after some of his bullies. Autism is already within Attack on Titan's DNA so him having daddy issues isn't much of a stretch

 

[Secret Asshole]

To believe that you'd have to believe Isayama is a good enough writer to deliberately channel his own issues into his work.

This is the same guy who stumbled into writing a gold mine, and then decided to completely change it to mimic whatever cool movie/show he saw that week.

More likey he just doesn't know what he's doing and thought having good people die just for the sake of it is dark and deep and edgy totally saying something.

Pretty much. Honestly, the reason why Sasha's parents shit on her is because Isayama fucking HATED Sasha in his SUPER SUPER SERIAL work, so he denigrated her as much as possible, gave her the shittiest death and shittiest parents in favor of his self-insert.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Pretty much. Honestly, the reason why Sasha's parents shit on her is because Isayama fucking HATED Sasha in his SUPER SUPER SERIAL work, so he denigrated her as much as possible, gave her the shittiest death and shittiest parents in favor of his self-insert.

And apparently the first plan for Sasha's death caused his editor to puke in the bathroom or whatever.

 

[Secret Asshole]

And apparently the first plan for Sasha's death caused his editor to puke in the bathroom or whatever.

Apparently she was supposed to die when those small titans attacked her and it was pretty gruesome.

 

[Neet Tokusatsu]

Man i can't believe it's been a decade since AoT came out, 2013 just feels like forever ago. I never watched the anime but i did start reading the manga but i eventually dropped really early, i think it was when eren somehow got a fucking power-up like being able to control wild titans by just yelling, i was like "yeah this is getting stupid" and dropped it, boy i can't believe how badly everything derailed after that.

Can't tell if i was lucky due jumping ship too early and not wasting a decade of my life on a story that wasn't really worth it, or unlucky since i missed one the biggest trainwrecks in manga history.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Can't tell if i was lucky due jumping ship too early and not wasting a decade of my life on a story that wasn't really worth it, or unlucky since i missed one the biggest trainwrecks in manga history.

Unlucky. The "thank you for becoming a mass murderer" is one of the most unintentionally hilarious pieces of dialog in history. Were you around for the insane decline and devastation and meltdown that was later seasons Game of Thrones? This was just as ridiculous and absurd just on a smaller scale with a smaller fanbase. But that line alone is one of the all time most spectacularly laughable moments in storytelling.

The leaks, the reactions, the double rounds of fans losing their minds due to having split fanbases with the manga and anime, reddit banning tons of users and some various forums, talks of the animators having mental collapses over the ending, the rushed epilogue that came out of nowhere, multiple fan remakes and outright rejection of the canon ending. It was glorious.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

And apparently the first plan for Sasha's death caused his editor to puke in the bathroom or whatever.

I still find this very hard to believe. What kind of fragile weakling attaches themselves so much to fictional characters that a gory death has such a physical and mental effect on them? Maybe if a figment of your imagination dying causes you to have a mental breakdown, you shouldn't be editing a horror manga. Isayama isn't the only incompetent one there I see.
And why would that retarded reaction cause the author to drastically change his plan for his own character? It's almost like he has no real plan and decides to change his story based on what happened last week.

What are the chances that that weakling was the one who forced him to create the cringevengers and shit up the ending because she couldn't handle the imaginary world being flattened?

Unlucky. The "thank you for becoming a mass murderer" is one of the most unintentionally hilarious pieces of dialog in history. Were you around for the insane decline and devastation and meltdown that was later seasons Game of Thrones? This was just as ridiculous and absurd just on a smaller scale with a smaller fanbase. But that line alone is one of the all time most spectacularly laughable moments in storytelling.

Nothing tops "Eren...... What a man you are" for me.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Unlucky. The "thank you for becoming a mass murderer" is one of the most unintentionally hilarious pieces of dialog in history. Were you around for the insane decline and devastation and meltdown that was later seasons Game of Thrones? This was just as ridiculous and absurd just on a smaller scale with a smaller fanbase. But that line alone is one of the all time most spectacularly laughable moments in storytelling.

Nothing tops "Eren...... What a man you are" for me.

Personally, my favorite lines are Eren saying the two things he hates most in life are cows, and slaves, and Levi saying "Give up on your dreams, and die.".

The first one shows just how much of a massive autistic edgelord Eren is, and the second one pretty much ended up being the accidental moral of the entire series.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly the whole incel breakdown at the end is genuinely hilarious since it forever stayed in the minds of all AOT fans forever.

But aside from 139 stuff, one of the funniest stupid moments is when Armin jumped into Connie's titan mom mouth and basically compared himself to Erwin thinking that trying to stop your retarded friend from bringing back his mommy is as equal as being a military commander.

The Connie subplot was honestly the dumbest subplot in the entire series.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I still find this very hard to believe. What kind of fragile weakling attaches themselves so much to fictional characters that a gory death has such a physical and mental effect on them?

Dude, you been living under a rock? People get attached to fictional characters all the time, to the point of crying when their favorite character dies in a TV show. And this isn't just some random person. This is a person involved in the manga's creation, which would only increase their sense of attachment.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

How about when the cringevengers banded together because they believed it was wrong to kill anyone for your own beliefs..............and then the first thing they did was to savagely murder their former friends so they could steal a plane?

Also "why did my mother have to die Laina?" is a nice one

Dude, you been living under a rock? People get attached to fictional characters all the time, to the point of crying when their favorite character dies in a TV show. And this isn't just some random person. This is a person involved in the manga's creation, which would only increase their sense of attachment.

I know such people exist. What I find hard to believe is that such a person could end up editing at all, let alone for a series like AOT and having enough sway that Isayama can't just say "sorry your favorite character dies this way" and just move on.
That's like having someone with a chocolate allergy be a taste tester for Cadbury and taking their suggestions seriously

 

[TVB]

Dude, you been living under a rock? People get attached to fictional characters all the time, to the point of crying when their favorite character dies in a TV show. And this isn't just some random person. This is a person involved in the manga's creation, which would only increase their sense of attachment.

Yes, it's part of suspension of disbelief.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

How about when the cringevengers banded together because they believed it was wrong to kill anyone for your own beliefs..............and then the first thing they did was to savagely murder their former friends so they could steal a plane?

Or when due to Isayama's shitty art, he made it look like Floch died twice? Or Hange basically ragequitting, and killing herself? Or Falco suddenly being able to fly which rendered everything we both just mentioned completely pointless?

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

I still find this very hard to believe. What kind of fragile weakling attaches themselves so much to fictional characters that a gory death has such a physical and mental effect on them? Maybe if a figment of your imagination dying causes you to have a mental breakdown, you shouldn't be editing a horror manga.

People consistently attach themselves to fictional characters to an even greater extent than many of the people they meet IRL. I'd argue this goes even further for people involved in the creation of a creative work since it involves putting a piece of yourself into the work.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Theory: It wasn't Sasha's death that made the editor puke, and cry in the bathroom. It was the stress of being Isayama's editor. Sasha's death was just the last straw.