Crime Attacker stabs five at rabbi's home in New York - Jewish Shishkebab

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...five-at-rabbis-home-in-new-york-idUSKBN1YX026

NEW YORK (Reuters) - An attacker stabbed five people late on Saturday at a Hasidic rabbi’s home in New York state and fled before apparently being arrested, a Jewish organization said, a rampage that came after days of increased tension over anti-Semitic assaults.


All five victims were taken to hospitals, the council said, adding that two of the victims were critical, with one of them stabbed at least six times.

“The suspect fled the scene, but he is in custody at this time,” the Ramapo Police Department said in a Facebook post.

The police department confirmed that five people were stabbed and said that the investigation was going on. The department did not provide any more details.

An OJPAC official, Yossi Gestetner, told the New York Times the attack happened at around 10 p.m. during a Hanukkah celebration that was being attended by many dozens of people at the rabbi’s home.


About a third of the population of Rockland County is Jewish, including a large enclave of Orthodox Jews who live in secluded communities.

New York Attorney General Letitia James said she was “deeply disturbed” by the events in Monsey.

“There is zero tolerance for acts of hate of any kind and we will continue to monitor this horrific situation,” she said in a Twitter post.

New York City’s police department said on Friday its officers were stepping up patrols in heavily Jewish neighborhoods following a spate of anti-Semitic attacks.

“Hate doesn’t have a home in our city,” Mayor Bill de Blasio wrote on Twitter, calling the assaults attacks on all New Yorkers.

In more deadly recent attacks, a gunman killed a female rabbi and wounded three people during Sabbath services at Congregation Chabad in Poway, near San Diego, on the last day of Passover in April 2019.


Six months before that, a gunman killed 11 worshipers at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh in the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in U.S. history.

The Jewish holiday of Hanukkah commemorates the 2nd century B.C. victory of Judah Maccabee and his followers in a revolt against armies of the Seleucid Empire.
 
That’s Cuomo’s new bail law. Apparently he’s doing a better job of persecuting Jews than Nazi Orange man.
I heard Cuomo on wcbs today. The interviewer called it a "loophole" that the black lady got out on bail for verbally attacking a jew. My bet is they wouldn't be talking about it as a "loophole" if the victim was white. Cuomo wants anyone who even looks at a jew the wrong way classifed as a "domestic terrorist" so his new bail law wont apply.

Also here are photo's of the attacker. None of the local MSM is mentioning his race.
 

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When the ADL and SPLC added the Black Hebrew Israelites (as well as other Black supremacist groups) to their list of hate groups. It had all sorts of consequences for the groups.

These were initially groups that were aiming to be mass movements, now they were restricted in their access to banking, leasing premises etc. It did massively fuck them up. Yeah they were no fan of the Jews before hand, but once they had their wings clipped, I get the impression that they really started to stew in it.

It's like the way Jewish groups keep taking shots at the Nation of Islam. At the end of the day even blacks that think they're a bunch of idiot malcontents, are going to take their side in a dispute like that.
Yeah, can't disagree with you. Hassidic Jews are pretty awful, both here and in Israel. Still doesn't justify murdering them, though I get the feeling that some Kiwis would disagree.
Your'e lumping in all Jews into one subset of people as if they're engaging in the same sort of behavior. My problem with Hassidic Jews is that they find ways to exploit the system to screw over everyone else. They're not the same as other Jews, including American Jews, and your conflation of the two is exceptional.

Your logic of people hating groups for the general actions of the groups applies to everyone, because the reason that anyone hates specific groups of people is for the general conduct of the group rather than a nebulous concept of racism or anti-semitism. Even minorities' hatred of whitey has in large part to do with the actions of white people as a group rather than a nebulous concept of racism, and the only people who ascribe nebulous concepts to anyone are self-hating whites.

Yeah, those who haven't actually experienced the Hasidim up close and personal tend to not fully understand them. They are in oh so many ways the living personification of every bad stereotype laid upon Jews as a whole throughout 3000 years of history, all distilled down in to one bag of extremely unpleasant nastiness. Typical American Orthodox and Reform Jews utterly loathe them in a way that Christians only typically reserve for the WBC. Nobody who has any experience with the Hasidim has a good experience, ever. Not even other Hasidim. The Hasidim are in many ways the Jewish equivalent to the Radical Islamists. Except they use money and property to terrorize the infidels instead of explosives. And the regular Jews won't or can't say a word against them for much the same reason that the saner members of the Muslim community can't push back against the Islamists. Because they control the core tenents of the faith and can make life miserable for those they deem as a problem. Actual Israeli's utterly despise the Hasidim and similar Ultra Orthodox sects in Israel for how badly they have perverted things in order to assign themselves special privileges. Such as a Religious exemption from Military Service for themselves and only themselves. About the only redeeming thing about the Hasidim is they claim to be Pacifists, and thus mostly limit their acts of violence to their Wives.

Jews in general, even most Orthodox Jews are just like everybody else, are largely indistinguishable from everybody else and fully embrace the society and culture and everyone else in it. The Hasidim are not that. They are like Scientologists with a really horrible dress code.
 
So sad. She even survived the huge Musk harassment campaign against her, but this was apparently too much.

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She even wrote an article about it:
 
This is a terrible event. I can only express my hope that there are no revenge attacks against the many good people of the African-American community, and that the Shomrim that the American governments allow these Jews to use to commit crimes against blacks and non-Jews are not emboldened to increase their level of activity.

From what I've read about these enclaves, they take over other towns via placement of their fellow Jews on school boards and such. I've read up about Kiryas Joel, which leads the nation of people living in poverty, due to the males not working to study Torah and their women getting welfare. (As an aside, that proves that people have a good reason to be up in arms when illegals are allowed on city boards out in Cali and such).

RIP to the victims but I have a hard time feeling sorry for them, as they can be quite nasty to outsiders and live parasitic lifestyles as evidenced above.

Nice people, they are.

Their pets are turning on them.
I do not understand the anti-Hassid/Haredi sentiments. Most are, by all accoounts, just like other Jews- except more honest. You prefer someone like Ben Shapiro, who pretends not to have dual loyalties (really, only one loyalty, a foreign one) as he subverts your society?

The obnoxious behaviour people attribute to the religious Jews is so clearly obnoxious that in the absence of overwhelming 'secular' Jewish power, it would be quickly curtailed by the host populations. Instead of asking why this particular sect is so openly, obnoxiously Jewish, why not ask why they are allowed to act in this manner? Ultraorthodox have been kept in control before and could be again. The Zionist entity openly oppresses such Haredis as the Neturei Karta because they are actually faithful to their religion and reject the secular Zionist rathole that calls itself 'Israel'.
 
Yeah, those who haven't actually experienced the Hasidim up close and personal tend to not fully understand them. They are in oh so many ways the living personification of every bad stereotype laid upon Jews as a whole throughout 3000 years of history, all distilled down in to one bag of extremely unpleasant nastiness. Typical American Orthodox and Reform Jews utterly loathe them in a way that Christians only typically reserve for the WBC. Nobody who has any experience with the Hasidim has a good experience, ever. Not even other Hasidim. The Hasidim are in many ways the Jewish equivalent to the Radical Islamists. Except they use money and property to terrorize the infidels instead of explosives. And the regular Jews won't or can't say a word against them for much the same reason that the saner members of the Muslim community can't push back against the Islamists. Because they control the core tenents of the faith and can make life miserable for those they deem as a problem. Actual Israeli's utterly despise the Hasidim and similar Ultra Orthodox sects in Israel for how badly they have perverted things in order to assign themselves special privileges. Such as a Religious exemption from Military Service for themselves and only themselves. About the only redeeming thing about the Hasidim is they claim to be Pacifists, and thus mostly limit their acts of violence to their Wives.

Jews in general, even most Orthodox Jews are just like everybody else, are largely indistinguishable from everybody else and fully embrace the society and culture and everyone else in it. The Hasidim are not that. They are like Scientologists with a really horrible dress code.
And there is no way to convince them to embrace society. They think that because they are the chosen people, they only have to follow Jewish law. They don’t care about the land they are living in because the only thing that matters is following the law of God.
 
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Imagine if these were white males posing with weapons that most likely violate NY state laws. Especially with one of the kids holding a tiki torch in the background. Oy vey!

They're straight up threatening vigilante justice in their publications. I didn't just color the text below red, they did that on their site to drive home the threat.

I'm waiting for something to really set it off. Blacks and Jews killing each other in NY on a large scale would be interesting to see which group the media sides with.

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JEWS ARE SICK OF THE TWEETS! Federal Government Needs To Step In To Deal With Hate [An Op-ed By YWN]
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/new...tep-in-to-deal-with-hate-an-op-ed-by-ywn.html (http://archive.vn/FTOTv)

First we were told that the hate was caused by President Trump.

We knew it was a lie, because not one hate crime in NYC was carried out by a Trump supporter. Yet these are the talking points served to us by the liberal anti Trump establishment led by NYC Mayor Bill Deblasio and Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Let’s cut to the point.

Jews are sick and tired of the faux condemnations via tweet. ‎We are exhausted and incensed at the endless cycle of attack, tweet, statement, press conference, followed by twenty four hours of police coverage, rinse and repeat.

The Orthodox community is well within our rights to demand tangible action. Tragically the action we seek is the one thing our elected officials have been incapable or unwilling to provide, protection. A failure by our government at the very highest level.

Last night , before the blood on the floor of Rabbi Rottenberg’s home had dried – a Jewish person working for a prominent NYC elected official called YWN to ask us to publish his tweet which he said was “very strong condemning hatred and YWN should post it right away.‎”

Seriously?‎ Is this what this is about? A race between politicians who can tweet a condemnation first?

We have had way more than enough.‎ Action not words is the only way forward for us.

YWN has demanded multiple times from Mayor Deblasio: List us the last 100 hate crimes in NYC, and tell us how many suspects were actually arrested. And from the few that were arrested, how many are actually still in jail? The answer remains zero. How can New Yorkers believe a word the Mayor says when the facts scream otherwise. We have no reason to doubt that his intent is likely good and he means well but unfortunately talk is cheap and Jewish blood is now flowing freely on his watch.‎ As uncomfortable as it is to say, The Mayor, as the Chief operating officer of NYC, is responsible for that bloodshed.

As for New York’s Governor, Orthodox Jews are onto him too. Does he think frightened Jews take any comfort in his disingenuous and artificial tweets? Like clockwork after every attack, he tweets that he is “directing the NY State Police Hate Crimes Task Force to investigate because hate has no home in New York” This boilerplate condemnation is now a running joke amongst political insiders. Here’s how it plays out (sounds familiar) attack, tweet, statement, rinse and repeat. Come on. How gullible does the Governor and his staff actually think we are?

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

As we’ve called here before, President Trump must immediately direct US Attorney General Barr to prosecute anyone arrested for a hate crime with federal hate crime charges. The jail terms are lengthy and word will get out to the streets, commit a hate crime, pay a heavy price.

YWN warns the political powers that if action is not taken soon, it’s only a matter of time before vigilante justice returns to New York like the bad old days. Nobody wants that but desperate times calls for desperate measures.

–YWN Editorial Board
 
This is a terrible event. I can only express my hope that there are no revenge attacks against the many good people of the African-American community, and that the Shomrim that the American governments allow these Jews to use to commit crimes against blacks and non-Jews are not emboldened to increase their level of activity.


I do not understand the anti-Hassid/Haredi sentiments. Most are, by all accoounts, just like other Jews- except more honest. You prefer someone like Ben Shapiro, who pretends not to have dual loyalties (really, only one loyalty, a foreign one) as he subverts your society?

The obnoxious behaviour people attribute to the religious Jews is so clearly obnoxious that in the absence of overwhelming 'secular' Jewish power, it would be quickly curtailed by the host populations. Instead of asking why this particular sect is so openly, obnoxiously Jewish, why not ask why they are allowed to act in this manner? Ultraorthodox have been kept in control before and could be again. The Zionist entity openly oppresses such Haredis as the Neturei Karta because they are actually faithful to their religion and reject the secular Zionist rathole that calls itself 'Israel'.
Inshallah my brother. Just because some Hassidim happen to dress their women in burkas doesn't mean they're more honest about the religion, although it helps explain why you're more supportive of them.
 
They think that because they are the chosen people, they only have to follow Jewish law. They don’t care about the land they are living in because the only thing that matters is following the law of God.


It's not even following God's law, it's following an interpretation of Judaic law from the 1700's, an interpretation that the vast majority of Jews worldwide think is nuts. They've ritualized a bunch of backwoods Eastern European ghetto practices and insist this is how the ancient Israelites lived. Their mindset is permanently stuck in a shtetl of ignorance, fear, and self-righteousness.
 
UPDATE 1:30PM:
A highly credible law-enforcement source tells YWN that the Monsey stabbing attack suspect ,Thomas E. Grafton, is a RECENT MUSLIM CONVERT.

If that info is actually true, this story will disappear even faster. I would almost predict another shooting sometime tonight in the West Coast to take the attention off of NY, since the TX shooting didn't get a large body count.
 
Imagine if these were white males posing with weapons that most likely violate NY state laws. Especially with one of the kids holding a tiki torch in the background. Oy vey!
None of those rifles shown are NY compliant.
Right off the bat they all have greater then 10 rd mags. 2 have pistol grips.

I love how the twitter posting of them is mostly whites cheering them on and thank god for the #2A shit. But completely ignoring the fact that if it was blacks or whites standing around with illegal as fuck in NY AR's they would be arrested on site. The anti-2A NY SAFE act is somehow Trump's fault so it's OK for jews to ignore the laws but the goys have to obey.

There IS such thing as NY complaint sport rifles and they could have showed up with them or some sort of other legal NY firearm. But instead they show up with blatantly illegal rifles just to rub it in to everyone's face that the gun laws do not apply to them.
 

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Yeah, those who haven't actually experienced the Hasidim up close and personal tend to not fully understand them. They are in oh so many ways the living personification of every bad stereotype laid upon Jews as a whole throughout 3000 years of history, all distilled down in to one bag of extremely unpleasant nastiness. Typical American Orthodox and Reform Jews utterly loathe them in a way that Christians only typically reserve for the WBC. Nobody who has any experience with the Hasidim has a good experience, ever. Not even other Hasidim. The Hasidim are in many ways the Jewish equivalent to the Radical Islamists. Except they use money and property to terrorize the infidels instead of explosives. And the regular Jews won't or can't say a word against them for much the same reason that the saner members of the Muslim community can't push back against the Islamists. Because they control the core tenents of the faith and can make life miserable for those they deem as a problem. Actual Israeli's utterly despise the Hasidim and similar Ultra Orthodox sects in Israel for how badly they have perverted things in order to assign themselves special privileges. Such as a Religious exemption from Military Service for themselves and only themselves. About the only redeeming thing about the Hasidim is they claim to be Pacifists, and thus mostly limit their acts of violence to their Wives.

Jews in general, even most Orthodox Jews are just like everybody else, are largely indistinguishable from everybody else and fully embrace the society and culture and everyone else in it. The Hasidim are not that. They are like Scientologists with a really horrible dress code.

This makes sense, every Religious group has it's fringe extremists who take things too far.
 
Considering this happened in Rockland County, (basically American Israel if you saw pictures of some areas) I expected this to be an in community crime- jewish on jewish crime. Before I moved, there was always something on the news going over there with them having disputes with one another or fighting and shit.
 
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