Crime Attacker stabs five at rabbi's home in New York - Jewish Shishkebab

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...five-at-rabbis-home-in-new-york-idUSKBN1YX026

NEW YORK (Reuters) - An attacker stabbed five people late on Saturday at a Hasidic rabbi’s home in New York state and fled before apparently being arrested, a Jewish organization said, a rampage that came after days of increased tension over anti-Semitic assaults.


All five victims were taken to hospitals, the council said, adding that two of the victims were critical, with one of them stabbed at least six times.

“The suspect fled the scene, but he is in custody at this time,” the Ramapo Police Department said in a Facebook post.

The police department confirmed that five people were stabbed and said that the investigation was going on. The department did not provide any more details.

An OJPAC official, Yossi Gestetner, told the New York Times the attack happened at around 10 p.m. during a Hanukkah celebration that was being attended by many dozens of people at the rabbi’s home.


About a third of the population of Rockland County is Jewish, including a large enclave of Orthodox Jews who live in secluded communities.

New York Attorney General Letitia James said she was “deeply disturbed” by the events in Monsey.

“There is zero tolerance for acts of hate of any kind and we will continue to monitor this horrific situation,” she said in a Twitter post.

New York City’s police department said on Friday its officers were stepping up patrols in heavily Jewish neighborhoods following a spate of anti-Semitic attacks.

“Hate doesn’t have a home in our city,” Mayor Bill de Blasio wrote on Twitter, calling the assaults attacks on all New Yorkers.

In more deadly recent attacks, a gunman killed a female rabbi and wounded three people during Sabbath services at Congregation Chabad in Poway, near San Diego, on the last day of Passover in April 2019.


Six months before that, a gunman killed 11 worshipers at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh in the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in U.S. history.

The Jewish holiday of Hanukkah commemorates the 2nd century B.C. victory of Judah Maccabee and his followers in a revolt against armies of the Seleucid Empire.

 

[Rafal Gan Ganowicz]

Check out THIS fucking psycho! From an ANTIFA page (of course):

 

[PantsFreeZone]

Hmmm. I wonder.

Karol Markowicz on Twitter

“Just got this text to my cell phone. I’m not afraid of you.”

twitter.com

 

[Jump]

Probably. The theater the NY AG does to jack off her voter base and what is a viable court case are two different things. Busting these guys for shit that will probably magically vanish in a tragic boating accident before an investigation is a waste of power and resources that could better be abused elsewhere. NY politics are crooked af, no one is surprised.

However, these guys aren't doing it to "rub it in to everyone's face that the gun laws do not apply to them" they are doing it because they are pretend tough guys looking to dress up in the crap they bought on ebay. The larping security faggot knows know race color or creed.

If any other race was walking down the street with illegal AR's they would be arrested on site. There would be no opportunity to lose them in a boating accident. Every gun owner in the state knows that. NY is the state that arrested a guy for loading 9 rounds in his mag when the legal limit is 7 for handguns. They have arrested people for just having a standard cap ar mag and no gun. Felony charges.

If I was threatened would I give a shit about the SAFE act? No. But I wouldn't go posing for a photo op with illegal equipment and not expect some problems... unless I was one of Gods Chosen.
You couldn't buy those mags on ebay and have them shipped to NY.
NO legit gun dealer will ship standard cap ar mags to NY.
Having a just a mag with over 10 rd capacity is a class D felony in NY. No gun. Just an empty mag can get you jail.
I am not trying to get in a 2A argument here. NY gun laws are bad and unconstitutional. My point is NY has a long history of harshly enforcing their exceptional gun laws on people and hitting them with charges even for making innocent mistakes. Or by shit that is outside of their control like having a flight diverted to a NY airport for bad weather while legally transporting. Gov Coumo has been the outspoken cheerleader of legislation that violates peoples 2A rights. He was the one who pushed for the 7 & 10 round mag limit. But for these guys? Its all OK. Just remember if you question the unequal enforcement you are not just a nazi, you are also an antisemitic domestic terrorist now.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Lol The Jews spent a century here in the US using the media to stir up black hatred against whites, and now are getting shoahed by blacks.

 

[pwnest injun]

You'd think that such austere scholars of the Talmud would know that the Mud Golem eventually turns against the ones who created it..

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It's the UWS liberal "IMPEACH ORANGE CHEETO" secular Jews that are screaming for gun confiscation, voting in assholes like De Blasio and demanding criminals get no bail. Hasidim are not a problem for me. There are different groups of Hasidim, not all of them get along and certain Hasids are more annoying than others. You have to live in NYC and deal with them to get an idea which ones mind their own business and which ones cause trouble. That said I hear some Hasids upstate and NJ are absolutely insane.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I wouldn't go posing for a photo op with illegal equipment

But is it though? Are those actual functional firearms? Is this in NY? Etc.

Like I said, the effort in proving that ain't worth it. Most normal states recognize this and that's why they never bothered passing knee-jerk easily abused laws like SAFE. But it's NY politics. If they got ya on something and want to make an example of you in an election year? Sure, they'll waste the resources. When they want to hang a charge on someone they don't like? Of course. When some civil servant steps on their dick and they want to cover for them by pursuing it like the crime of the century? Oh fuck yeah. Point being the only time they expend the effort on enforcement on this shit is when they have something to gain.

This has way more to do with how shitty and corrupt NY politics are (and the weird and extremely strong racial divisions inside it) than whatever the intentions are of the people who may or may not be committing the crimes. The way NY chooses to selectively enforce these laws for the enrichment of the politician's power is probably the best argument for 2ndA causes out there. These misguided mallninja motherfuckers just want to be safe because they feel the cops aren't doing anything against targeted violence by a protected class and the government is not acting to defend their rights. That wypipo rate lower on the NY government's progressive stack when prosecuting transgressions is irrelevant. It's fucked up that the situation exists to begin with.

 

[Affluent Reptilian]

watching jewish kiwis defend jewishisms is pretty funny. Are the twitter jews that are blaming whites for a black guy killing some jews hassidic or are they regular jews? they look like regular jews to me. I don't see a difference between hassids and Jew.

you're not even making a good case that there are SOME good jews. they all seem terribly ethnic and tribal.

Wienstien, epstien, schnieder, dershowitz, all hassidic jews.

I feel like Jews are heterogeneous enough as a group that there must be many examples, but the only ones that spring to mind off-hand are Richard Hernestein (who even Kevin MacDonald approved of as a person whose primary goal was advancing science) and Jonathan Haidt. That being said, I have no doubt that they're a lot more ethnocentric as a group than gentiles are - although when I had a desultory look through Google Scholar a month or two ago I couldn't find any good studies on it - and are strongly overrepresented in anti-Western Leftist groups.

Edit: I should add that a small degree of ethnocentrism is, in my view, not just inoffensive but the sign of a healthy culture; it's a combination of trying to undermine solidarity among other groups while maintaining one's own ethnocentrism that's really pernicious.

 

[Trig.Point]

It might be worth drawing a comparison between what's happening in the US and the rise of Antisemitism in the UK.

The UK Labour party got mauled in the Media, both print and broadcast over allegations of Antisemitism. Yet the Corbynistas never really changed their tack.

Essentially the Labour party's position is that only white people can be Anti Semitic. When black or Muslims attack Jews, it's a symptom of something else.

Hilariously when Labour was finally forced to have an inquiry into antisemitism, at the event where the findings were published, Corbyn only wanted to talk about Islamophobia and racism. A black activist called Marc Wadsworth then accused a Jewish MP called Ruth Smeeth of coordinating with the media present (which she was), reducing her to tears. Corbyn then ignored the MP and shook Wadsworth's hand.

https://archive.li/b2HBl

Anyway the reason this is significant, is that Ruth Smeeth was an intensely unlikable MP. Who had an employment history, with Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre, Board of Deputies of Britains Jews, Hope not Hate, Nestle!, etc.. A CV that would have been great in the 90's or early 2000's but now at a time when there's 4 million Muslims in the UK the majority of which vote Labour, not such an asset.

The demographics have changed in the UK and they seem to be changing in the US as well. Yes the Media will continue to report on the rise of antisemitism, but politically politicians in certain situations are going to realise, that if the Jewish Community is at odds with the Black and Islamic ones.. They may have to pick a side.

 

[Dom Cruise]

It's the UWS liberal "IMPEACH ORANGE CHEETO" secular Jews that are screaming for gun confiscation, voting in assholes like De Blasio and demanding criminals get no bail. Hasidim are not a problem for me. There are different groups of Hasidim, not all of them get along and certain Hasids are more annoying than others. You have to live in NYC and deal with them to get an idea which ones mind their own business and which ones cause trouble. That said I hear some Hasids upstate and NJ are absolutely insane.

That is what complicates the whole Jew narrative thing, how many of them are Jews by technicality but not in the least bit Religious? What do you think is a bigger influence, a Religion they don't even follow or their liberal political beliefs? Ones that they share with many non-Jews.

What is really going on here is not Jew vs Gentile or even black vs white, it's a battle between two schools of thought, left and right, these schools of thought are made up of everyone, it all comes down to an opinion on how things should be.

 

[Unog]

You're really just reiterating my point. You're looking at a rather vocal subsection of the population and ascribing their views and actions to the group as a whole. That's the exact same shit that black people and leftists do to white people and Middle America, and it's not exactly useful if you actually want to affect change or get people to change their behavior.

I don't know what sort of bubble you live in, but people absolutely do treat their religion as a social club and extended family. That's the entire point of being in a sect. Mormons for one have a massive amount of in-group association, and so do a lot of the smaller Protestant groups like Pentecostals and Seventh Day Adventists. Hell, the Jehovah's Witnesses are even more tribal than Hassidic Jews.

The jewish groups that lead to antisemitism like the ADL and SPLC have a disproportionate impact on people's lives, whether through politics, culture, or financially. Mormons to my knowledge have never gotten a man arrested for getting his dog to do a trick, gotten someone's site deplatformed and de-indexed, nor have they ever locked someone out of the banking system.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pentecostals have ever asked for demanded hate speech laws to protect them from criticism, nor have Jehovah's witnesses ever called someone "christophobic" for merely disliking them.

 

[Trig.Point]

The jewish groups that lead to antisemitism like the ADL and SPLC have a disproportionate impact on people's lives, whether through politics, culture, or financially. Mormons to my knowledge have never gotten a man arrested for getting his dog to do a trick, gotten someone's site deplatformed and de-indexed, nor have they ever locked someone out of the banking system.

When the Book of Mormon was playing in the West End, the Mormons bought advertisements in the program, suggesting politely that if anyone wanted more information they should get in touch.

The religion is obviously crazy, yet it somehow manages to produce decent, stable people who actually contribute to society. Also because Mormons tend to do a year on mission trips in different parts of the world, they're often better able to interact with different cultures, and people that disagree with them.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

I can't be bothered to check seven pages to see if someone's made the Paulie Walnuts "Hasidim but I don't believe 'em" joke yet so just in case no one did here is your reminder that that is a line from a popular TV show and I'm funny for remembering it

 

[HunterHearstHelmsley]

What is really going on here is not Jew vs Gentile or even black vs white, it's a battle between two schools of thought, left and right, these schools of thought are made up of everyone, it all comes down to an opinion on how things should be.

That would be nice but it seems that in the Jewish religion and indeed even in many secular Jews the fundamental distinction is Jew vs Goyim. If they’re moral they shouldn’t harm goyim but if they’re Jewish they should differentiate. Even on the right side of politics for every Jew like Mises which I admire there is some jackass like Ben Shapiro.

 

[Cheesy Toe Number 2]

I can't wait to binge watch liveleak videos of nogs going "WOOOOOOOOORLD STAAAAAAAAAAR" while being shot by Schlomo and his Bagel Squad.

2020 is going to be interesting.

 

[Trig.Point]

Yeah, those who haven't actually experienced the Hasidim up close and personal tend to not fully understand them. They are in oh so many ways the living personification of every bad stereotype laid upon Jews as a whole throughout 3000 years of history, all distilled down in to one bag of extremely unpleasant nastiness. Typical American Orthodox and Reform Jews utterly loathe them in a way that Christians only typically reserve for the WBC. Nobody who has any experience with the Hasidim has a good experience, ever. Not even other Hasidim. The Hasidim are in many ways the Jewish equivalent to the Radical Islamists. Except they use money and property to terrorize the infidels instead of explosives. And the regular Jews won't or can't say a word against them for much the same reason that the saner members of the Muslim community can't push back against the Islamists. Because they control the core tenents of the faith and can make life miserable for those they deem as a problem. Actual Israeli's utterly despise the Hasidim and similar Ultra Orthodox sects in Israel for how badly they have perverted things in order to assign themselves special privileges. Such as a Religious exemption from Military Service for themselves and only themselves. About the only redeeming thing about the Hasidim is they claim to be Pacifists, and thus mostly limit their acts of violence to their Wives.

I think some people realise there's a bit of a PR problem.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

It's not that surprising that attacks like this are happening. Most black supremacists aren't going use anything more advanced than one of those paint colour guides you get from hardware stores to decide whether to attack/kill someone or not. I mean, black supremacists (like most racial supremacists) aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.

 

[soy_king]

The jewish groups that lead to antisemitism like the ADL and SPLC have a disproportionate impact on people's lives, whether through politics, culture, or financially. Mormons to my knowledge have never gotten a man arrested for getting his dog to do a trick, gotten someone's site deplatformed and de-indexed, nor have they ever locked someone out of the banking system.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pentecostals have ever asked for demanded hate speech laws to protect them from criticism, nor have Jehovah's witnesses ever called someone "christophobic" for merely disliking them.

Since when is the SPLC a Jewish organization? it was founded by a racemiximg Southerner and to my knowledge also targeted jewish extremist groups like the JDL. If the Mormons had their way Utah would be a Mormon theocracy (part of the reason why it took so long for Utah to become a state), and as we're starting to see again, Christian religious organizations are starting to once again demand censorship of things that conflict with their values.

Grouping the entire Jewish community with the ADL is like conflating the Hispanic community with AOC or the black community with the Black Panthers. A lot of people within the group probably support them, but a sizable group also disagree with them and they don't represent the group as a whole. What's the point of conflating people like me who hate the ADL just as much as you and have little to no ability to change their practices?

 

[Trig.Point]

Grouping the entire Jewish community with the ADL is like conflating the Hispanic community with AOC or the black community with the Black Panthers. A lot of people within the group probably support them, but a sizable group also disagree with them and they don't represent the group as a whole. What's the point of conflating people like me who hate the ADL just as much as you and have little to no ability to change their practices?

Yes, but even when they disapprove of them you don't see many members of the black community condemning the black panthers, ultimately they're fellow blacks. Likewise with the Hispanic community and AOC.

How Hasidic Jews conduct themselves, and how they interact with other communities has always been shady. However now the demographics are changing it's becoming a problem for them, and hence for the whole Jewish community.

Any mainstream news source I've looked at that's covered Hasidic Jews moving into traditionally black communities, only shows them handing out present to children and just generally being upstanding members of the neighborhood. They've not covered any of the pushback they've gotten only to highlight some of the slightly dumber comments from local residents.

Ultimately I understand why their fellow Jews are standing by them, however they're starting shit with communities that have their own powerbases, and don't really make distinctions between Hasidim and reformed Jews.

 

[Unog]

Grouping the entire Jewish community with the ADL is like conflating the Hispanic community with AOC or the black community with the Black Panthers. A lot of people within the group probably support them, but a sizable group also disagree with them and they don't represent the group as a whole. What's the point of conflating people like me who hate the ADL just as much as you and have little to no ability to change their practices?

It's not exactly my opinion that I was pointing out, (this racialist idpol crap is missing the forest for the trees, imo) but rather the public image that those groups have and what that means for the public perception of "jews".

Other people have explained this to you earlier in the thread, but apparently it needs to be said again that it doesn't matter what one individual person believes - it's what the common perception is that matters. I'm sorry if you don't like the common perception but disliking it doesn't change anything.