Autism is not a superpower - ...and I'm tired of people pretending that it is. (aka Vyse bitches and moans for a little bit)

People are just way too judgmental in either direction.
You either have the cope millenials were taught at birth that if you're autistic you're going to be the next Abraham Lincoln, Nicola Tesla or Alan Turing and that the fact that you will be gifted at certain things is enough for you to deal with the harsh rejection of society, community, and being a functional human being in all of it.
Or you have the faggots on this site who think everyone with the diagnosis is only good for shitting their pants, wanting to fuck Sonic characters and categorizing rocks, while missing the fact that they're also maladjusted misanthropes that are still posting on fucking KiwiFarms.
In reality as with everything, the truth is usually in a weird negation of either extremes.

So you're autistic.
Will you be able to talk to coworkers about gay drama and laugh at the newest shitty TikTok? No. At least not all the time.
Will you be the next super science genius (who also in the best scenarios mostly also died without finances and close relationships) who is listed as a name on the class chalkboard for Autism Awareness Month? Probably not.
Will you have a hard time functioning in society, gaining a harem and being the local star of your town. Who knows?
Ask yourself seriously. Do you want those things? Do you want to be the star quarterback, the most popular guy in the room, the popular girl, the man of all seasons? You might, but there are obvious tradeoffs and detriments in having those things. Tradeoffs that even if you miraculously could afford to, you wouldn't want to make given your ideals and personality.


Don't believe the lie that just because you don't fit into the mold of polite society that it means you're a booger eating spaz. People can laugh it off or say it's a cope but every person who ever did something interesting, usually was interesting. That doesn't mean you have to love trains to write an amazing novel, but generally as a rule, normal people do normal things.
I'm not saying it's not lonely or painful. It is. But you CAN make a path towards progress if you really want it.
I'm not going to powerlevel, but I'm the biggest loser I know. I like all the cringey things people make fun of. I am "that guy". But I've still worked towards certain things. I have people who respect me and treat me like a human being now because I worked against my own worst traits and past all the shitty obstacles life and myself put in my way. I'm still mostly the autistic loser I've always been, just with some more confidence. You can still do amazing things and form bonds most people, even normies, can't, if you push yourself. And the progress you make can be exponential if you want it to be and things fall in place relatively quickly. You just have to not get in your own way,
 
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CowPox said:
Can "autism" be detected with a genetic test or is it just bullshit quackery to easily label anti social people with?
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Theory of mind tests, especially when they begin school.
The local gods were not content with my personal brand of autism and further blessed me with ADD, and these two compete. To some extent I "grew out" of the 'tism (thank fuck, reading my old medical records was really depressing and full of cringe) but the ADD and my lack of processing speed and leaky memory gives me the productivity and communicative skills of nope. Adrenaline, hyperfocus and external pressure is how I miraculously made it through college. I don't want any victimhood clout or thoughts and prayers, I just want to fucking function in society.

Edit: 10 11 or so rewrites later. My brain can't find fitting words so I need to read a lot of old posts to jolt my memory.
 
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Skitzels said:
One autistic chick is really good at her position and makes more money than most on the production floor. She’s really nice, even if she likes to sperg about classical Disney movies and how they were animated. She also is into weird topics like Nazi tanks and planes. She also has a collection of Nazi medals because she likes the aesthetics.
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Is she single and interested in dating a Kiwifarmer who hates trannies and niggers?
 
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Too fucking bad, what's the point in wishing things were different? You could've been born without a face, or in a cave.

Most of the people I care to know are on the spectrum. I can tell a sperg my thoughts on the holocaust or the difference between saying the nigger-word and calling someone a nigger, and they will entertain my ideas on their own fucking merits without obsessing over what they're supposed to think. Try doing that to the average person.

Go work in a profession that forces you to be social, save up some money, and then go travelling abroad alone.

Or lay down and die, as you were about to.
 
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Being a high functioning autist who is capable of holding down a solid job, going to school, and even being literate and responsible with your personal finances is kinda isolating. Aside from autism not being a superpower, other high functioning autists using it as an excuse to not even try holding down a job is sad. I'd argue that if you are capable of doing the same things a normal person can achieve, even with a tough mental quirk, then you should be proud of yourself. Set a good example for autists, and be the capable top percentile. I've gotten to where being around "normies" is way less mentally taxing than being around other autists half the time. On one hand you got the autists trying their hardest to make ends meet in a working environment, and then you have others just as mentally capable abusing the shit out of social security and getting a meager 1500 a month just to avoid working.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
If I came of age 10-20 years ago, yeah, maybe. Clown World has made that impossible. "The only winning move is not to play.
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Well, there's still a ray of hope for you. For me (I'm not autist...I think?). For everyone, really.

The problem with get to find that special someone is that, to find one you'll have to filter out a lot of people on your journey. I know this from personal experience and still in search too, although I've slowed down to barely any activities in this field dye to health issues and a need to estimate better ground to stand on for now.

Don't get oblivious. To each their own, in the right time of them life.

Stay safe.
 
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Normalfags don't have any real friends either, they have fair-weather people pleaser suck ups, drinking buddies, acquaintances and fuckfriends who abandon them immediately at the first sign of trouble. You autists probably learned everything you know about friendship from anime and games, so you think that's how it is in real life, but it's not, it's actually all very superficial, and men especially very rarely form deep friendships, women and children can form deep friendships, men very rarely.

99% of normie friend activities are just them mimicking something they saw in a movie or on social media, and they do it out of sheer FOMO, or to signal how much cool awesome shit they do to other normies. Not because they actually enjoy it for what it is.

It's either 5+ guys following ~2 girls around while trying to one up each another, doing drugs, drinking, or smoking weed, or chitchat around the watercooler, usually about cars, girls, or politics. This isn't anything worth lamenting over, especially since you wouldn't enjoy it anyway. Normies are very socially conscious and often care more about being perceived as cool than having fun. They are very prone to framing bias and tend to judge things based on feelings alone. They are also retarded in their own way.

Normies will never hang out with you or accept you, because being seen near you signals low social status, but you can make friends with schizoids, other autists, and autist aligned normies, this is probably a much better endeavor for you, because you'd probably like interacting with those people a lot more, but you still have to make an effort to socialize and not be grumpy. You also have to weed out the freakazoids, druggies, and trannies.
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That explains why people tell me to do shit that absolutely doesn't interest me just to make friends. People pretend to be interested in things just to pretend they have friends and all that jazz. I prefer doing things both of us like, and while it does limit the amount of friends I have, it also means I'm not gonna bullshit people about who I am. Unfortunately, I kind of work backwards from how others are - once I know someone, I am interested in what they are. Unfortunately doing it the opposite feels contrived, and I'm very bad at hiding my boredom, and I won't lie if I'm disinterested.
gaidsy cigarette said:
was on a different forum recently discussing the climate issue, and I referred to greta thunberg as a "mentally abused autistic child" which is how I see her (she is terrified and literally thinks we're all going to burn to death in her lifetime, but that's another topic) and hilariously some fucking gimp jumped on my post and started reeling off the virtue signalling spiel about their admiration for greta, and how I shouldn't be disparaging towards autistic people, and how greta is an example of all the wonderful things autists can do blah blah blah.
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Honestly, I don't blame her for feeling the way she does. People who should know better have been catastrophizing for decades - saying we're not gonna have any drinkable water, the entire planet is gonna be a goddamned desert or a concrete jungle, we're gonna need to move to Mars, and all sorts of other crazy shit. Autists take these statements at face value, because why would adults lie to us? Truth is, no one knows shit from a hole in the ground, and telling people the environmental apocalypse is upon us just makes the best of us skeptical and the worst of us flip the fuck out like Greta.

That dipshit who yelled at you is a moron - she's able to do what she does because her family has money. If her family had no money, she likely would be like most of us average autists who think to themselves "if my parents had the money, maybe my chances at a good life outcome would have been better..."
 
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Squawking Macaw said:
Spergs who believe they're the next step in human evolution are either so mollycoddled they haven't experienced the worst of it, or they have and they're just coping by pretending to be better. You'll find that a lot of these "superpowers" are just maladaptations in disguise, an autistic kid using more complex words may be a sign of more intelligence... or it can be a failure to adapt their speech to the situation.

The screeching of the sperg activists shouldn't matter and it saddens me that researches looking for a cure are constantly bombarded with hatred from them, if an autist wants to cure their condition that should be their right alone and nobody else's.
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I mean, you could argue that it might be evolutionary beneficial on a species level for an increasing percentage of humanity to be spergs without that necessarily meaning that autism is evolutionarily beneficial on an individual level.

It's like how a species of eusocial insect might become better adapted to its environment by developing a new type of worker, like those ants where soldiers with big heads act as living tunnel doors, but that doesn't mean those specialised ants are superior to other members of the same species - they're just part of a species-wide survival strategy.

Not a perfect equivalent of course because in eusocial insects workers don't reproduce, the entire colony is a single individuum genetically speaking, whereas humans all have an individual stake and drive to reproduce - but arguably we've "eusocialised" to a point where some people don't really want to (or get the chance to) reproduce individually, but can still make contributions to the survival of the species overall. So I guess maybe autist virgins with useful special interests are a step forward in our trajectory towards the hivemind or something.
 
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Vyse Inglebard said:
I beat myself up over shit constantly. I dunno why,
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I did some of that when I was much younger and still had a sense of shame

yesterday I literally farted out loud in the cereal aisle of the grocery store. it was spectacular. 15 minutes before closing and nobody else was around, but still - I call that a win
 
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John Titor said:
I dislike this attitude because I've seen people use Einstein as proof that autistics are secretly smart (no evidence he was on the spectrum, by the way) yet completely ignore the mass shooters who also happen to be autistic.
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It's like an autistic post-humous baptism.

As someone who isn't extraordinary in any way, it's kind of infuriating. It's racist to say Asians are all good at math, but people unironically think autists are good at math. Shit doesn't make sense, but autists don't usually call it out because they're on so much copium, they'd rather think they're Rain Man than Christian Weston Chandler. That's all fine and dandy until people seriously think you shouldn't be having trouble with math because you're on the spectrum.

Frankly, most people who run programs for disabled people already either treat us like we're retarded, or straight-up have absolutely no fucking idea what they're doing.

I was in a program that was basically violating the ADA with what they would accommodate. This is a famous institution that got state funding through the vocational program and the people who ran this program also worked with kids who have Down Syndrome. They wouldn't let you wear headphones, even if you have sound sensory issues. Even my middle school from 14 years before would allow auties to wear headphones for noise, and that place also treated auties as if they were retarded.

I have so much to say about these institutions and what I call The System, I could probably write a small book about it.
Billy Bob Dick said:
I did some of that when I was much younger and still had a sense of shame

yesterday I literally farted out loud in the cereal aisle of the grocery store. it was spectacular. 15 minutes before closing and nobody else was around, but still - I call that a win
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In my experience, autists who are currently self-aware didn't start out with a sense of shame. It's a bit hard to find a sweet spot between being genuinely embarrassing and realizing you're worrying about stuff no one actually cares about; especially when it's pushed onto you because you're giving your parents second-hand embarrassment.
 
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