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FuckBitchesGetRiches said:
I'm not sure what it is about publicly-funded health institutions but they seem to attract people that don't really care - both staff and clients.
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It's a huge issue in America. Especially since a lot of hospitals have shut down their mental health wings over the past few decades (I believe the reason most hospitals give is that it "isn't profitable enough"), preferring to give the resources to heart and neuro surgery units. The result is a combination of using patients as a means of "churn-and-burn" instead of getting them the real help they need and employing a shitton of apathetic, underpaid staff that couldn't give a flying fuck about the people in the hospital.
 
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theblazecode said:
I have autism and I fucking hate having it.

It's nothing but a distraction from what I want to do with my life. My apologies for blatant powerlevelling.
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Nah, I get you. It doesn't help that there's a trend towards what I call "happy flapping" activism where people focus on relatively superficial shit like getting people not to be weirded out by stims and tics rather than changing the overall mindset of the people who run the system. These types tend to take pride in their autism while complaining that nobody accepts the parts of their behavior that make them disruptive or socially unacceptable.

People are always gonna stare if you do weird shit, but they shouldn't be treating you like you're retarded simply because you're on the spectrum.

I do some odd things when I'm nervous, but I'm not like "how dare you hate me???? fuck da neurotypicals!!1"


Jon-Kacho said:
Everything publicly funded is absolute shit because they know their funding isn't dependant on not being shit.
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Yeah, I think that's part of it. Sadly, the for-profit ones aren't much better since they see clients as money coming in rather than people to be helped.

Now that I think about it, that might be a problem with some publicly-funded ones too; possibly the funding depends on how many clients stay in the program?
 
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Everyone's on the autistic spectrum somewhere, apparently.

I have asperger's, we all know this as I have brought it up before. I'm getting on with my life and at the current moment I'm trying to find a full time job (I finished uni back in June). It's kinda hard for me as I'm sensitive to loud noise so can't work in retail.

Yes, I have some unusual interests due to having asperger's but I have friends who accept me for who I am.
 
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One of my many therapists once said "If you meet one person with autism... you've met one person with autism." Something that personally irritates me is that people either disregard or forget the second word of the disorder: Autism SPECTRUM Disorder.

Spectrum: used to classify something, or suggest that it can be classified, in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme or opposite points. (Source: google.com)

There are, of course, more than two points in Autism, but the fact that many neurotypicals ('normal' people) clump Autism as one thing really bugs me.
 
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The Janitor said:
One of my many therapists once said "If you meet one person with autism... you've met one person with autism." Something that personally irritates me is that people either disregard or forget the second word of the disorder: Autism SPECTRUM Disorder.

Spectrum: used to classify something, or suggest that it can be classified, in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme or opposite points. (Source: google.com)

There are, of course, more than two points in Autism, but the fact that many neurotypicals ('normal' people) clump Autism as one thing really bugs me.
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Some doctors do that. I remember reading an article in a magazine where a woman's son had just been diagnosed with asperger's. The woman had done no prior research into ASDs so the doctor suggested she watch Rain Man. Whilst it is a good film, the protagonist is not indicative of all people with ASDs. OK, the woman may have gained SOME insight into autism and ASDs by watching the film, however she'd eventually end up having assumptions and making sweeping generalisations about people with ASDs.
 
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LagoonaBlue said:
Some doctors do that. I remember reading an article in a magazine where a woman's son had just been diagnosed with asperger's. The woman had done no prior research into ASDs so the doctor suggested she watch Rain Man. Whilst it is a good film, the protagonist is not indicative of all people with ASDs. OK, the woman may have gained SOME insight into autism and ASDs by watching the film, however she'd eventually end up having assumptions and making sweeping generalisations about people with ASDs.
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I will never understand why professionals claim to understand or treat autism spectrum disorders yet recommend people watch fictional accounts to better understand autism or how to cope with it.

On a similar note, there's a social skills seminar where part of the relationship lesson encouraged people in the program to watch romantic movies to learn how relationships work. I don't know how these people are considered to have any credibility.
 
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FuckBitchesGetRiches said:
I will never understand why professionals claim to understand or treat autism spectrum disorders yet recommend people watch fictional accounts to better understand autism or how to cope with it.

On a similar note, there's a social skills seminar where part of the relationship lesson encouraged people in the program to watch romantic movies to learn how relationships work. I don't know how these people are considered to have any credibility.
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It creates a dangerous precedent which not only prevents actual development, but breeds negative influences in parents themselves.

For example: "My child is on the computer all of the time, he must obviously be skilled at using them."

Reality is that the child is probably just playing vidya and isn't all that technically skilled with a computer (i.e. maitenance, desktop building, coding, etc.).

The scale of autism is far too great to pidgeonhole one or two stereotypes in fictional media. I mean, really? Watching romantic movies helps with social situations? Citation fucking needed.
 
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FuckBitchesGetRiches said:
On a similar note, there's a social skills seminar where part of the relationship lesson encouraged people in the program to watch romantic movies to learn how relationships work. I don't know how these people are considered to have any credibility.
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The fuck. RomComs and similar films in that genre are over exaggerated, cheesy and very rarely indicative of real world relationships. It's like a sex ed teacher telling people to watch porn to get an idea of how sex works.
 
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LagoonaBlue said:
Some doctors do that. I remember reading an article in a magazine where a woman's son had just been diagnosed with asperger's. The woman had done no prior research into ASDs so the doctor suggested she watch Rain Man. Whilst it is a good film, the protagonist is not indicative of all people with ASDs. OK, the woman may have gained SOME insight into autism and ASDs by watching the film, however she'd eventually end up having assumptions and making sweeping generalisations about people with ASDs.
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Was this person a professional psychologist?
 
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Jon-Kacho said:
Everything publicly funded is absolute shit because they know their funding isn't dependant on not being shit.
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I disagree, publicly-funded institutions can and often do fall accountable when they underperform or don't meet expectations.

For instance, if a public school is failing, then the government can step in to slash their funding (as they often do). Or they could face the local electorate, or the student council

By comparison, things like for-profit schools receive the same amount of public funds (often more) and only stand accountable to the school's owners and shareholders- which in turn encourages a business model focused on recruiting the most students and not caring what happens afterwards. They get paid whether or not the students graduate and get jobs. There was no short-term financial incentive for them to focus on making students employable, so they didn't and still got rich overnight.

Which is why private for-profit schools perform worse and cost more than the average public school. They've focused exclusively on short-term profits, which is why most of them are going bankrupt after operating shadily for 20 years. You can call that justice, but that still leaves millions of students who are in a lifetime of debt because they got swindled by ITT Tech commercials.
 
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LagoonaBlue said:
The fuck. RomComs and similar films in that genre are over exaggerated, cheesy and very rarely indicative of real world relationships. It's like a sex ed teacher telling people to watch porn to get an idea of how sex works.
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The kicker is that apparently this particular program (which costs 800 dollars) started out as a program for people with social anxiety rather than autism.
 
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*Asterisk* said:
There are too many people out there whom act as though treating autism as a medical condition is tantamount to Jim Crow.

That sort of nonsense is cropping up everywhere. It's deplorable, and should be fought against by all who consider themselves on the side of collective sanity.
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Is it usually the people who think autism is just making silly noises and flapping?
 
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In my experience?

Usually the people who non-ironically use the term 'ableism'.
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That's part of the package, from what I've seen. The people who think chew toys for autistic people are cute, and that flapping excitedly is just adorable, and if you disagree, you hate autistic people! /sneed

Like man, I knew a kid with straight-up autism. He flapped, bit himself, and had a chew toy to keep him from doing either. It wasn't something he did to be cute, and I think there was an attempt to wean him off of needing to use it.
 
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There are too many people out there whom act as though treating autism as a medical condition is tantamount to Jim Crow.

That sort of nonsense is cropping up everywhere. It's deplorable, and should be fought against by all who consider themselves on the side of collective sanity.
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It's usually people who aren't even autistic but just pretend to be for Internet points.
 
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