Autism

[Pepsi-Cola]

When I got to high school I noticed that there were special classes for severely autistic kids and instead of trying to help them the teachers would--I'm not kidding here--make them go around collecting trash from other classes.

they do that because those kids don't do well in the classroom and wont amount to anything irl so instead of wasting resources on putting them through courses that they'll fail and they wont ultimately need in the long run they just make them do grunt work, because really that's all they're useful for. There's a reason simple grunt work is done by the mentally deficient, because they make for loyal workers and they're easier to manipulate than your average Joe.

 

[charmaide]

o high school I noticed that there were special classes for severely autistic kids and instead of trying to help them the teachers would--I'm not kidding here--make them go around collecting trash from other classes.

It's truly saddening to see them being used in such a way. I want to believe that they can be taught and helped, but in a way that these lessons resonate with them. What I fear is that they will only think of themselves as mere custodians and cleaners and not bother unlocking their potential since no one bothered to push them in that direction.

In essence, some may feel they aren't worthy enough to receive a decent education and may take matter in their own hands.

Then there's the parents that need to be taken into account as well. How these children are nurtured can play a huge part how their disability will manifest, whether or not they appear like a normal-functioning adult or an obvious autistic man- (or woman-) child.

 

[Pandinus Imperator]

I think ableism and late/no diagnoses are actually super important for forcing autistic people to adjust. Early diagnoses and enabling parents ruin autistic kids by allowing them to continue to be dysfunctional.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

I think ableism and late/no diagnoses are actually super important for forcing autistic people to adjust. Early diagnoses and enabling parents ruin autistic kids by allowing them to continue to be dysfunctional.

Counterpoint: Kengle. His parents refused to treat him differently, let alone even know that he had the autism diagnosis until he was well into adulthood. Now his social skills are such that he literally fails to talk to lolcows.

I agree that the rising trend of enabling parents isn't a good thing, but I think autism diagnoses are, in the right hands, a good way to get information and resources about your kid's problems so you can properly fix them.

 

[Heimdallr]

Is there a way you can help autistics talk?

It seems so many of them just turn out to be useless eaters. I hate to say it but it's true. Given how bad autism can be, youd almost think aspergers is its own ball of wax entirely.

With down's syndrome/ other retardeds you can teach them skills, teach them jobs, and they can say "I love you."

Bad autistics just screech and scream, take up tons of resources and could not give anyhting back if they wanted to.

What gives? I feel called to root for autistics/wish them well but many of them sicken me

 

[Pandinus Imperator]

Counterpoint: Kengle. His parents refused to treat him differently, let alone even know that he had the autism diagnosis until he was well into adulthood. Now his social skills are such that he literally fails to talk to lolcows.

I agree that the rising trend of enabling parents isn't a good thing, but I think autism diagnoses are, in the right hands, a good way to get information and resources about your kid's problems so you can properly fix them.

Both bullying and enabling are issues, so it depends on the person. For some, the bullying and lack of enabling serves as tough love and forces them to adjust. Others fail to do so, which is unfortunate, but if every autistic person was diagnosed as a young child and coddled their whole life they'd all turn out useless. I think of it as natural selection.

You do have the few parents who use that knowledge properly, but most just go "my child is autistic and can't help anything they do so they are perfect little snowflakes and everyone else just needs to deal with them", which is the problem.

 

[Zhoban]

I was reading /r/iamverysmart, which usually a bastion for lurker creations, when I came across a post that sounded genuinely autistic, without a sense of humor to be had...

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/7ImyPURa-im-apparently-normal?show=flat

So I was walking back from my calculus 2 class, when this girl in my class was trying to flirt with me. She explicitly said "hey, you're kind of cute. I'm tired of going out with these weirdo creeps, but you seem like a friendly, normal guy." And then she fucking winked at me...

Bitch. I have a >150 IQ, I am one of the best performing students at this college. I could fry your fucking brain with a couple sentences. On top of that, i'm stacked out to the brim with fucking muscle at this point. Who the fuck are you calling normal?

So guys, i'm thinking of a way to embarass this dumb chick as much as possible on the last day of the semester. Should I call her an ugly broad, or maybe get a bit more personal and talk about her lack of intellect? You guys provide the advice, I deal the final suprise.

Displayed is a complete, real-world lack of social skills that shows a complete lack of understanding about social norms. I don't doubt for an instant that this individual behaves with this sort of disabled frame of mind persistently and assuming they're not already living in assisted living, I'd be curious to see how they could be taught to know better.

 

[Alberto Balsalm]

I was reading /r/iamverysmart, which usually a bastion for lurker creations, when I came across a post that sounded genuinely autistic, without a sense of humor to be had...

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/7ImyPURa-im-apparently-normal?show=flat



Displayed is a complete, real-world lack of social skills that shows a complete lack of understanding about social norms. I don't doubt for an instant that this individual behaves with this sort of disabled frame of mind persistently and assuming they're not already living in assisted living, I'd be curious to see how they could be taught to know better.

It just sounds like a troll post to me.

 

[H3LLH4MM3R666]

It just sounds like a troll post to me.

Nah I've rejected obvious advances from girls before. As in "hey I'm bored tonight you should come visit my dorm room if you wanna hang out" - "ok thanks I'll keep that in mind"

 

[Cucumber]

I was taken from test to test growing up because my mom was convinced I had autism. To be honest, I can't say with 100% certainty, but I'm pretty sure I was just a lonely kid who never got much of an opportunity to learn from other kids (and also really liked Pokemon). I've been in autism centered groups my mother convinced me to join, and the behavior a lot of the kids displayed actually made me very uncomfortable. Many were either incredibly arrogant ("autism gives me a high IQ, see how smart I am?" and any sentence like that is something I'd be happy to never hear again) or had no concept of personal space, two traits that are pet peeves of mine. The experiences I had with large groups of autistic people made me feel more isolated than I did with non-autistic people, which is the opposite of what my mom intended for me.

That said, it still deeply saddens me that parents and teachers of autistic children refuse to provide them with skills that will help them in the long run. When parents just shrug and say "my kid's autistic, I don't have to teach them manners," it sounds an awful lot like they're giving up on their child, and when they give up on the child, the child is likely to grow up to be an adult with even worse social skills than they would have had if their parents had the slightest bit of faith in them.

 

[Dumpsterfire]

I got diagnosed at 19 because it was commonly seen as a boy's thing when I was a kid. Getting diagnosed, even at a late age, actually helped in the long run though, because being forced to accept it helped me recognize where my short comings are and how to work around them to be a less irritating and abrasive person IRL.

Honestly what I think a lot of autists need is for people to flat out tell them what they're doing wrong (talking too much, talking about inappropriate subjects, etc) and the autist needs to have the humility to accept the help and move on instead of getting offended or angry.

 

[vertexwindi]

I got diagnosed at 19 because it was commonly seen as a boy's thing when I was a kid

It still is, really. Women often don't get diagnosed at all.

I've been around a lot of autists in my life, and I've only encountered about six women who were professionally diagnosed. They usually slip through the cracks.

 

[UptownRuckus]

so everyone talks about autism in a derogatory manner, but since we already have threads on depression and anxiety and being a loveshy and other mental conditions where everyone is talking so politely, and half our userbase is autists anyway, i thought that we're finally at a point where we're ready for this discussion.

i was diagnosed definitively when i was nine? memories are pretty hazy and i barely remember any of it. there were a couple years where i thought of it all the time, but then i realized that it's not a big deal, no one cares.

i'm sort of insecure about it, but now aspergers is less like a personal demon that eats at me constantly and more like a regular old attribute that embarrasses me, like an ugly birthmark, if you know what i mean?

what are your all's thoughts on autism?

I was when I was ten given the doctors diagnosis.
I was at that point told by my mom that she was not going to let me live in her basement. So ever since then (And I am almost 20) I've worked on it. being social, understanding things, and overall trying to be what the world calls normal. And hey! I don't know what people think about Mormon Missionaries but I did serve a full time mission as one. Knocking doors and as much as I could just being a speaker. One of the hardest things ever besides working at a theme park. I feel like in a way that makes me...Uh...a good person? LOL

Also I laugh every time I think about the day my mother told me "I will NOT let you live off of me" Because now I'm alone with a fulltime job and for the most part my co workers enjoy my company (I would think?) and I tell them I am a little weird but I also work hard. So...Is that worth anything? Lol

 

[ZeCommissar]

That said, it still deeply saddens me that parents and teachers of autistic children refuse to provide them with skills that will help them in the long run. When parents just shrug and say "my kid's autistic, I don't have to teach them manners," it sounds an awful lot like they're giving up on their child, and when they give up on the child, the child is likely to grow up to be an adult with even worse social skills than they would have had if their parents had the slightest bit of faith in them.

Jesus christ. "I don't have to teach them manners" Do they WANT to have a 30 year old living with them?

 

[AnOminous]

That said, it still deeply saddens me that parents and teachers of autistic children refuse to provide them with skills that will help them in the long run. When parents just shrug and say "my kid's autistic, I don't have to teach them manners," it sounds an awful lot like they're giving up on their child, and when they give up on the child, the child is likely to grow up to be an adult with even worse social skills than they would have had if their parents had the slightest bit of faith in them.

That's like saying "my kid's diabetic, I don't need to give him insulin."

Jesus christ. "I don't have to teach them manners" Do they WANT to have a 30 year old living with them?

I think a lot of these scumbags are like Barb. They want a crippled kid who can't ever leave. They're toxic mommies.

 

[Mozzarella Dicks]

I'm fairly well adjusted, except when I go onto the Internet to engage in my :autism: obsessions and :deviant: fetishes. I don't have an official diagnosis of :autism: but many signs are there plain as day. Nobody even mentioned the idea of it around me until I was an adult working at a job and someone said he thinks I might have Asperger's.

My parents homeschooled me and I was a special needs student, but they were such good teachers they didn't even notice that since they adjusted their teaching methods to my needs and didn't tell me I was special.

 

[Lurkman]

I believe an important skill for some high-functioning autistics is to battle past their stubbornness and hard-headedness and actually take the lessons they are being presented.

That's my advice from life experience, I would've had a much better life and much less lonely life had I known this earlier.

 

[D.Va]

Neurodivergent is a relatively new word used by those on the spectrum to describe themselves as to say "I'm autistic but not mentally ill".

Prior to this autism was an "epidemic", which I'd like to think of as the autism umbrella becoming so damn reaching from the eighties onwards that exceptional individuals like Chris-Chan are no longer the gatekeepers to what is considered abnormal, and it has become so generalised that you are probably going to be diagnosed as being autistic just for having an invested interest in some topic.

So now neurodivergent is being used to say "they think there's something wrong with me, but there's nothing wrong with me". These people are probably going to be socially dumb, but intellectually great. It's become a circle where autistic is now a personality type rather than a disorder like it was originally intended.

 

[DuskEngine]

It's become a circle where autistic is now a personality type rather than a disorder like it was originally intended.

The Broad Autism Phenotype is a thing.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

Just wondering, what is it like to have autistic parents? I'm asking because I'm not sure if I want kids or not. Boyfriend thinks I'd make a great mom but I don't know.