Avowed - Obsidian's new game, like Pillars of Eternity meets Elder Scrolls

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Prophetic Spirit said:
My last TTW playthrought (combined FO3 and FNV) took me 90 hours to "100%" both games.
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Someone that has already played both games would obviously complete them faster than someone attempting to do a 100% for the first time.

Did anyone ever tell you're a retard?
 
Be Obsidian
Create whacky "le capitalism is le bad game that no one wants
le whacky le capitalism is bad game flops
Evil corporation that owns your ass says no more le whacky capitalism is bad games
meekly say "yes massa because even though your a super badass anti capitalist tranny with 500,000 reddit karma you know who owns your ass

lol

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Jace on ice said:
Be Obsidian
Create whacky "le capitalism is le bad game that no one wants
le whacky le capitalism is bad game flops
Evil corporation that owns your ass says no more le whacky capitalism is bad games
meekly say "yes massa because even though your a super badass anti capitalist tranny with 500,000 reddit karma you know who owns your ass

lol
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Do you even wonder for a second if these people are actually grifting or they are just retarded?
Talking about big media conglomerates never hesitating to go "le captalism bad" when they are the biggest, jewest faggots around.
I'd almost say its even more pathetic than something like KO-PE's upcoming title (young suns) that manages to mention "capitalism is le bad" unprompted because at least they try to pretend they aren't part of some big conglomerate acting like sockpuppets.

regalterry said:
Just to illustrate how bad things have gotten - old, predominantly male and White Obsidian managed to develop New Vegas in 18 months. The new, diverse, progressive, feminine Obsidian needed close to 4 years to make Outer Worlds 1, and six fucking years to shit out Avowed.
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I want to play devil's advocate and say that FNV was built over a Fo3, tho I know nothing about awoved's development aside of how spineless it feels to have the game be part of another franchise because of muh branding.
regalterry said:
Neither game has anywhere near the amount of content or quality of writing of New Vegas. Nobody will remember Avowed, OW1 and 2 exist within a year.

To 100% Avowed you need some 60 hours, to do the same with New Vegas you need 130 hours or more.
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For 100% new vegas, do you include multiple endings to get all achivements and DLCs as well?
 
Honestly, I would rather have Pillars of Eternity 3 then another Avowed. Doubt they could make one without josh sawyer though.
 
Strangolapreti said:
was built over a Fo3
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Obsidian had to overhaul and expand the engine massively, to say nothing of all the new mechanics they introduced with the game.

Avowed was made in Unreal 5, was worked on by a team of 300 cretins, meanwhile NV was made in 18 months by 65 people.

Strangolapreti said:
For 100% new vegas, do you include multiple endings to get all achivements and DLCs as well?
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That's what 100% a game means, usually.

Mind you, the 130 number is the average across a multitude of playthroughs, but so is the number of hours I mentioned for Avowed.
 
Gravityqueen4life said:
Honestly, I would rather have Pillars of Eternity 3 then another Avowed. Doubt they could make one without josh sawyer though.
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Josh's autism game balancing fixation and waifu insertion ruined PoE 2 for me. I think Chris Avellone really made a big impact on the quality of writing and worldbuilding in the first game which I felt was lacking in the second (them ruining the characters from PoE notwithstanding, looking at you Eder 'my wife's bf's son'). Obsidian appears to be going the way of Bioware though and I'm not sad at all. Make bad games lose everything (deservedly).
 
Jace on ice said:
I thought Pillars 1 was actually a really solid CRPG
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I somehow lost all my interest in P1 when I arrived to the elf town. Don't remember why. I remember cringing at the "name your OC" character names for the backers but that wasn't the main issue. I finished the game though, but I don't even remember what happened.

BUT I was pretty damn into it at the beginning. The first 1/3rd of the game was really promising and some of the characters were actually cool without overshooting it.

When it comes to pillars, what do people usually like the most? The world, characters? Some mechanics? Combat? If it's the combat, I gotta admit I just half-assed and winged it most of the time without really getting into it.
 
speaking of POE, i gave turn base mode a try. I played the tutorial and thought it was alright. I just hated you could not see the area of effect of your spells but maybe thats something they will fix once the beta is done.
 
Strangolapreti said:
Do you even wonder for a second if these people are actually grifting or they are just retarded?
Talking about big media conglomerates never hesitating to go "le captalism bad" when they are the biggest, jewest faggots around.
I'd almost say its even more pathetic than something like KO-PE's upcoming title (young suns) that manages to mention "capitalism is le bad" unprompted because at least they try to pretend they aren't part of some big conglomerate acting like sockpuppets.
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To be fair, Outer Worlds was going to be more nuanced than "capitalism le bad", but it was reddit-ized late in development. Also, Outer Worlds 2 isn't quite as "le capitalism bad" as the first one and actually offers some more nuanced themes, but the damage is done. It's Obsidian's own fault for tying this millstone to their own necks, for zero reason, just like they had no reason to outright announce they are only making "mediocre games now" and still somehow fail at that. They are their own worst enemy.

Frankly, Avowed is such a disappointment for me, not because it lacks proper RPG mechanics that we know are possible in this engine or even because of the awful writing, but because I would love a fantasy RPG that plays like the first Outer Worlds. Setting it in the Pillars of Eternity universe is even better since I wanted an excuse to play those games for ages now, and I am sure others wanted to play a "darker Skyrim" that the game advertised itself to be too. They had gold on their hands, or at least something to that effect, but they fucked it up. Do we even know what they have in the pipeline now? PoE 3 maybe, OW3 is not happening and I can't even remember what other IPs they have. That stupid bug game, maybe?
Jace on ice said:
Avowed is Pillars 3, it takes place after that game and references events and characters from it.
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well, that's disappointing, lmfao
 
Jace on ice said:
Avowed 2 is their next game according to their end of the year financial filings.
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Does Avowed even have some sort of plot hook? Or anything appealing about it for anyone to want more? Maybe they will actually finish it this time, but I doubt anyone will care, they created even more damage to the brand than the first OW game did with how awful it was.
 
30+GameOvers said:
and I am sure others wanted to play a "darker Skyrim" that the game advertised itself to be too
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The first teaser got me. They knew what the images would evoke and what associations would be made. I don't even care about Skyrim, there was a long "mines of Moria" moment in it, showcasing a magnificent descent into something amazing and frightening. It could have easily been a linear, dark dungeon crawler with free movement and interesting RPG mechanics.

Instead you get pink-faced fucking redditors and a retarded cartoon world. What a fucking joke.
 
30+GameOvers said:
Does Avowed even have some sort of plot hook? Or anything appealing about it for anyone to want more? Maybe they will actually finish it this time, but I doubt anyone will care, they created even more damage to the brand than the first OW game did with how awful it was.
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Some reviewers have praised the combat particularly the magic system but I play RPGs primarily for the story and characters so that's not a draw for me.
 
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