Inactive Aziz Al-Yami / Hax$ - They played Smash at his livestreamed funeral.

[clever handle]

Something that really ruffles my jimmies about the current state of e-celeb discourse, ive been really been tired of the general ideas that "X's fanbase is totally planning something IRL guys, im scared for my life" whenever its from someone in a better state or especially a larger viewerbase. Its such a retarded fucking statement and almost never considers (on purpose) that maybe the "victim's" fanbase might rile themselves up in turn and do something, because you already introduced the concept and are just banking on the fact that you're so perfect that you never fostered any schizo for some reason or another, an almost impossible task in this day and age of internet faggotry.

Yes, it's just another iteration of the current meta of scumbaggery being to take hideous, malicious behavior and dress it in a cloak of morality. I am so fucking sick of terrible people getting ahead in society by convincing the terminally naive that just because they use enough shibboleths, that they're bastions of morality, rather than merely weaponizing the language of it as a tool to be destructive, vindictive, and anti-humanitarian.



Also, I think SimpleFlips said it best re: the "why doesn't he just move on?" discourse - anyone who thinks that sort of thing must never have felt a sincere passion in their life that they want to solely dedicate themselves to.

If you had globally forbidden Mozart from composing music, or Rembrandt from painting, they'd absolutely go fucking insane and try to kill themselves too. I know a bunch of people are gonna see that and think "b-b-but it's just a video game!", but I invite those people to tell me what the real semantic difference is. It's just a baseless assertion founded on what you pedantically consider culturally "legitimate", you sheepish, bandwagon fucks.

Neither art nor artistically playing a video game provide meaningful, tangible value: you can't eat them, you can't build a house out of them, so the only people downplaying the severity of anyone pursuing a craft must just be those sad, pathetic people who have never felt that holistic pull to give their whole life to something they're passionate about.

Art is art, no matter how legitimate you think it is.

 

[man of the sea wiki]

If you had globally forbidden Mozart from composing music, or Rembrandt from painting, they'd absolutely go fucking insane and try to kill themselves too. I know a bunch of people are gonna see that and think "b-b-but it's just a video game!", but I invite those people to tell me what the real semantic difference is. It's just a baseless assertion founded on what you pedantically consider culturally "legitimate", you sheepish, bandwagon fucks.

This analogy is fucking stupid. No on is globally banning Hax from playing any game he fucking wants, they just banned him from competing competitively in Melee. He could still play for content, he can still create content for Melee, there's an almost infinite number of ways he could do something else, but he chose to just stay in this retarded lane. Its not that its a video game that's the issue, its that the skills he has from Melee can just as easily be transplanted into other things that exist in and outside of games. This idea that he can only play Melee competitively and that he needs to revolve is whole life around one stupid game is fucking retarded. Tying yourself to a two decade old "bandwagon" seems less like trying to remain culturally legitimate and more like you can't let go of the past.

Neither art nor artistically playing a video game provide meaningful, tangible value: you can't eat them, you can't build a house out of them, so the only people downplaying the severity of anyone pursuing a craft must just be those sad, pathetic people who have never felt that holistic pull to give their whole life to something they're passionate about.

Art has value outside of the person creating it. Playing a video game has value only to the player. People might see value in playing Melee competitively, but that's such a small fucking number of people, and those people also happen to include retarded sex pests and emotionally stunted adults. Also, anyone who has pursued a craft or passion eventually peaks and realize they can't recapture the old days because everyone's reflexes, muscle memory, and skill will deteriorate with time. You see JWong or Daigo attempting suicide even though they are no longer considered best in the world in Third Strike? No, they fucking move on and do something different.

 

[clever handle]

This analogy is fucking stupid. No on is globally banning Hax from playing any game he fucking wants, they just banned him from competing competitively in Melee. He could still play for content, he can still create content for Melee, there's an almost infinite number of ways he could do something else, but he chose to just stay in this retarded lane. Its not that its a video game that's the issue, its that the skills he has from Melee can just as easily be transplanted into other things that exist in and outside of games.

What an arbitrary line to draw in the sand. You can granularize the analogy out to literally any extent that satisfies you and it holds up just fine, so long as there are skills involved between the two things being compared.

This idea that he can only play Melee competitively and that he needs to revolve is whole life around one stupid game is fucking retarded. Tying yourself to a two decade old "bandwagon" seems less like trying to remain culturally legitimate and more like you can't let go of the past.

Your whole post is a self-report about exactly what I'm saying: because you don't see value in it, you take that to implicitly mean there is no value to be seen, rather than you just not agreeing with it. It's an entirely subjective personal judgment that you're trying to assert onto others for no reason other than you don't like it. Maybe those dynastic professional Chess players who played that from birth shouldn't tie themselves to a 500-year-old bandwagon and should instead let go of the past, huh?

Art has value outside of the person creating it. Playing a video game has value only to the player. People might see value in playing Melee competitively, but that's such a small fucking number of people, and those people also happen to include retarded sex pests and emotionally stunted adults.

This directly contradicts itself. In implying that there are people that see value in playing a game competetively, even if there's only one, you are directly implying that playing a video game has value outside of the person creating it. Just the same, if I can find literally one person that sees value in someone else's gameplay, that categorically turns playing a video game into art by your personal definition.

 

[WiggerCEO]

I think this story is breaking containment. This is Charls Carroll of Sam Hyde/MDE.

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https://x.com/goodcharls/status/1905281828124053640

He deleted that tweet unfortunately but he's replied to technicals with this:

Charls is right. Leffen needs to get fucked by dogs NOW.
Original Tweet

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Based autist mew2king is doubling down on his position that Leffen didn't deserve to be forgiven but did so anyway and yet couldn't do the same for Hax. Hope he stays the course.

https://x.com/MVG_Mew2King/status/1905393961910382972

 

[man of the sea wiki]

What an arbitrary line to draw in the sand. You can granularize the analogy out to literally any extent that satisfies you and it holds up just fine, so long as there are skills involved between the two things being compared.

Your analogy is retarded because Hax wasn't banned from playing Melee, he was only banned from playing Melee competitively. Your analogy makes the assertion that Hax couldn't do anything with Melee, which is false. A way to fix your analogy would be if Mozart and Rembrandt couldn't enter their pieces into some competition.

Your whole post is a self-report about exactly what I'm saying: because you don't see value in it, you take that to implicitly mean there is no value to be seen, rather than you just not agreeing with it. It's an entirely subjective personal judgment that you're trying to assert onto others for no reason other than you don't like it. Maybe those dynastic professional Chess players who played that from birth shouldn't tie themselves to a 500-year-old bandwagon and should instead let go of the past, huh?

While you are right that its entirely personal judgement what people value, if you're trying to make a living out of that personal judgement, then you need more people to get on board with what you value. Melee is a self-contained community that has no interest in actual growth and only cares about personal drama and bullshit. It does not care about creating new talent, nor does it care about promoting older players. Chess has a whole system of people advocating for the game, for the players, establishing hierarchies and advocating everyone to get everyone interested in chess.

This directly contradicts itself. In implying that there are people that see value in playing a game competetively, even if there's only one, you are directly implying that playing a video game has value outside of the person creating it. Just the same, if I can find literally one person that sees value in someone else's gameplay, that categorically turns playing a video game into art by your personal definition.

I'm not going to have a debate about art because that's going to take a full essay, so I'll grant you that my statement is contradictory in context.

 

[Cryogonal2]

because Hax wasn't banned from playing Melee, he was only banned from playing Melee competitively.

You fucking retard, if Muhammad Ali had been banned from competing in boxing matches nobody would say "Well he's not banned from casually boxing, just competitive boxing" and just because boxing =/= art doesn't mean you're any less of a retard.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I'm yet to hear a compelling argument as to why Hax should have had his ban lifted. The bar for the Smash community is set so low; all he had to do was be relatively normal about a video game. He failed that test (and failed it again by jumping in front of a train).

Yes, the tranny TOs royally screwed up as they always do by dangling a carrot in his face in an effort to seem nice or something instead of kicking him to the curb day one. But it's not just a matter of "Hax deserved to be let back in because he was really sorry & all those guys treated him badly" -- he probably was and they definitely did. He proved himself to be an unstable personality. Say what you like about Leffen as a community figure, but he had reasonable grounds to believe that Hax was a threat to him after evidencezip 2, and it's not as if you could keep them separated in a tournament setting; these are two of the best players in the world. He was by no means obliged to forgive him.

There was nothing stopping Aziz from seeing his friends or playing the game or even entering (some) brackets. He only had to recognise that he was going to keep getting dicked around forever & gracefully remove himself from the festering rubbish heap that is the Melee scene. And he didn't. I understand some aspect of his personal identity was tied up in it, but he would have had to move on eventually one way or another.

You fucking retard, if Muhammad Ali had been banned from competing in boxing matches nobody would say "Well he's not banned from casually boxing, just competitive boxing" and just because boxing =/= art doesn't mean you're any less of a retard.

Melee is not a physical sport; you can compete against the best players in the world without leaving the seat of your arse sweat-stained gaming chair, if you want to. Hax was banned specifically from entering most IRL tournaments. There are so many other avenues to experience the game.

 

[clever handle]

I'm yet to hear a compelling argument as to why Hax should have had his ban lifted.

In my opinion, he should have had his ban lifted because the reasons for maintaining it are completely irrelevant to the tournament and TOs. Their job is to run tournaments and make sure the brackets run on time. Hax's mental state, whatever it may be, is completely irrelevant to that if it can be firmly asserted that he's not a demonstrable danger to anyone. The TOs believed this, as evidenced by the fact that they themselves said that they didn't perceive Hax to be a physical threat, and that's all there should have been to it. All of their stated justification afterwards was "it's for his mental health"-related stuff, which, again, has no bearing or relevance to their duties.

It's not a TO's job to make sure you go to bed on time and eat your veggies. It's their job to make sure nobody throws chairs at venues, and they can't even do that in the case of Hungrybox.

 

[KingLiberty76]

Surprisingly I don't wish death on Leffen, no I want him to live forever so he can suffer.

 

[Stephen Rothman]

Melee is not a physical sport; you can compete against the best players in the world without leaving the seat of your arse sweat-stained gaming chair, if you want to. Hax was banned specifically from entering most IRL tournaments. There are so many other avenues to experience the game.

I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. High level tournaments are offline - do you think anyone would bother traveling for them if online tournaments were a viable alternative? Online tournaments are more of a curiosity and a COVID-era measure than anything serious. The social aspect of offline tournaments is also huge, and although I haven't been able to reach the man to confirm, I assume the effective canceling axed many people from his social circle.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

I'm yet to hear a compelling argument as to why Hax should have had his ban lifted.

That's cause you're a stupid nigger. The TOs needed to justify their ban, Hax didn't need to justify his unbanning. It's basic bitch logic.

The TOs specifically made the ban vague on every level from the rule it was based on to the amount of time it would be. When he would ask what he could do about the ban, they ignore him. When he pressed them, they used that behavior to continue the ban. They fucking doxxed his apartment building for  daring to ask about his ban.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Their job is to run tournaments and make sure the brackets run on time.

It's their job to make sure nobody throws chairs at venues

So is it the TO's responsibility to police individual behaviour or not?

If you're a person whose job it is to herd large groups of autists, you're inevitably going to have to do some wrangling. That includes handing out bans when they cross the line.

The TOs believed this, as evidenced by the fact that they themselves said that they didn't perceive Hax to be a physical threat, and that's all there should have been to it. All of their stated justification afterwards was "it's for his mental health"-related stuff, which, again, has no bearing or relevance to their duties.

Well, no, they didn't, or they would have unbanned him -- it's not as if anyone was benefitting from Hax not coming to tournaments. What people say in these circles does not align with how they feel. They wheeled out the weaksauce "mental health" excuse because outright stating "This guy dropped a schizo War & Peace on Leffen apropos of basically nothing, and we do not trust that he won't lose the plot again" would get them swarmed for being Too Mean.

This is the Smash community we're talking about. You're not allowed to make judgments about a person's character until they touch someone.

The TOs specifically made the ban vague on every level from the rule it was based on to the amount of time it would be. When he would ask what he could do about the ban, they ignore him. When he pressed them, they used that behavior to continue the ban

Ban being poorly enforced does not make ban unjustified. I said this in my first post.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

Ban being poorly enforced does not make ban unjustified. I said this in my first post.

And if it was properly enforced it wouldn't mean it was justified either.

Since you skipped everything else I wrote, I'll accept this as your concession that you yourself can't even justify the ban in the first place.

 

[nayeon]

Mew2king is going full scorched earth and really letting his feelings out.

 

[A Real Snorlax]

The TOs believed this, as evidenced by the fact that they themselves said that they didn't perceive Hax to be a physical threat, and that's all there should have been to it. All of their stated justification afterwards was "it's for his mental health"-related stuff, which, again, has no bearing or relevance to their duties.

Well, no, they didn't, or they would have unbanned him

"I have no clue what nepotism is and refuse to believe personal politics would have anything to do with someone being banned for 4 years over a YT video" -Doktor Grimm

 

[Judex Meus]

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Mew2king is going full scorched earth and really letting his feelings out.

"my depression because of circumcision"
Oy vey m2k

 

[Buffalo Chicken Sandwich]

"I have no clue what nepotism is and refuse to believe personal politics would have anything to do with someone being banned for 4 years over a YT video" -Doktor Grimm

What you and the rest of the Hax stans don't get is Hax was himself also a left wing, trans positive autist. He was not right wing in any way and his ban has nothing to do with politics. He even rejected the association of Mekk and his anti woke smash tourny Mana Monthly, even when he certainly could have.

If I am wrong just post Hax's based and red pilled content that you must be basing it on. But it doesn't exist.

 

[Sketchy Fingers]

"my depression because of circumcision"
Oy vey m2k

Actually quite a sad story. One he felt he was forced to tell because everyone was getting outed as a sex pest during 2021.
Basically the doctors fucked up his circumcision as a baby, he states he feels basically nothing at all down there and it's impossible for him to have an orgasm. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the main reasons he poured himself so much into Melee as a teenager. What else was he supposed to do lol.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

you yourself can't even justify the ban in the first place.

He proved himself to be an unstable personality.

"I have no clue what nepotism is and refuse to believe personal politics would have anything to do with someone being banned for 4 years over a YT video" -Doktor Grimm

What would anyone (even retarded TOs) have stood to gain from keeping Hax locked out of Melee if they didn't believe him to be a threat? That's the part I don't understand. AFAIK, his politics were the same as everyone else's and nobody had major beef with him before the Leffen video.