US Babies Being Found in Dumpsters After Texas Abortion Ban

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Jan 2, 4:51 PM EST / by Frank Landymore

Babies Being Found in Dumpsters After Texas Abortion Ban​

Unbelievably grim.​

Two years on, the consequences of the Texas abortion ban are almost too grim to contemplate: amidst a surge in infant mortality, babies are being found discarded in dumpsters, ditches, curbsides, and garbage trucks, the Washington Post reports.

This year, there have been at least 18 cases of abandoned infants in the state, according to Texas Department of Family and Protective Services figures cited by WaPo. That's more than double the number documented ten years ago, the newspaper notes.

"There apparently has been... a little bit of an epidemic on this," said a sheriff's official for Houston's surrounding county, where the body of an infant was found in a roadside ditch this summer, as quoted by WaPo. The morbid discovery was made by a landscaping crew.

The Texas ban, which went into effect in 2021, is considered the most draconian in the nation. It makes no exceptions even in cases of rape or incest, leaving women with no legal means of stopping unwanted pregnancies.

And according to independent research from the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund, the percentage of women without access to healthcare is the highest in the country, per WaPo. The already desperate circumstances are even worse for pregnant undocumented immigrants, who may avoid going to a clinic to seek care for fear of being deported.

"All of these intersectional things could be leading to this," Blake Rocap, a lawyer with the Sissy Farenthold Reproductive Justice Defense Project at the University of Texas at Austin, told WaPo. The issue is exacerbated by the state's "abysmal" access to prenatal care, he added, "particularly for people without private insurance, particularly for people without immigration status."

In addition to the harrowing rise of infant abandonment, Texas currently has the eighth highest rate of teenage births, per US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data, with over 20 cases per 1,000 teens aged between 15 and 19, compared to 13.6 nationwide. It also has the 13th worst maternal mortality in the country, with around 28 deaths for every 100,000 live births.

All the while, the state's Republican leadership has slashed funding for women's health and reproductive care.

But the problem isn't only the abortion ban and the poor access to care, according to critics. It's also the lack of education on the issue. State lawmakers have continued to cut funding for an awareness campaign that would inform mothers what to do when they decide they can't keep their baby, the WaPo said, despite enjoying a budget surplus well over $30 billion.

Texas has "safe haven" laws that let mothers anonymously relinquish newborn babies at designated locations without risk of prosecution — measures that are often used to downplay the cruelty of the abortion ban. But little to no effort is being made to let women know that these alternatives exist, let alone fund them.

This is plain even to opponents of abortion.

"Women don't know what to do," Shelley Sekula-Gibbs, a former congresswoman and director of The Woodlands township, told WaPo. "We have to educate, to give them more choices, to give them a chance to provide a loving home for their child."

 

[Mr Bunny]

Even the most diehard misogynist doesn't believe women lack agency to the extent it takes to make this argument seem logical. This is a BLM member arguing blacks are too stupid to succeed without affirmative action.

No one hates women like other women. It's amazing.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

I mean ultimately the best way to not get up the duff with a useless guys kid is to not sleep around. Or if you absolutely must, take your own precautions and make sure your staying on top of it.

I saw a plebbit thread the other day where a guy and girl decided to do the nasty, but she was trying to call it rape because he didn't confirm that she wasn't on birth control and had to take plan B. Surprisingly plebbit actually called her a tard

One thing that I will say for women, of what I've heard - many women are not actually told what happens when you abort. I think they assume the doctor does it humanely. But once the baby actually looks like a baby, they basically have to pull limbs off the thing to get it out. Even "easy" options like Plan B or early abortion meds mean cramps, contractions and a fair bit of pain. I could see some realizing what abortion would entail and deciding to just carry to term. I don't get how you decide dumping it in the trash is a viable option after feeling it inside you....

There are a lot of women who go through it. Then experience a lot of guilt. Though yes also there's a weird subset of women who also get some weird pleasure from it? I'll never understand that.

 

[BradeRunna]

Wrong, there are plenty of people who absolutely say that. Visit the Abortion Debate Thread.


I am not responsible for them spreading their legs and never will be. If I didn't father the child, it is not my responsibility.


Fifteen years ago I would absolutely agree with you. Now? Fuck no. You have hoes twerking on TikTok saying about how much they love abortions and killing their own children to own the Chuds. They do this to the echo of support from literally thousands of deranged and psychotic women. Some of these videos get hundreds of thousands of likes. You have women being called stunning and brave for vowing to abort their babies if they find out they're having boys. You have hoes doing post-abortion celebration videos dancing about how they "yeeted that fetus". They are absolutely rubbing their hands in glee at it.

So no, this needs to fucking stop. The hoes who do this shit are pure fucking evil and are driving normies towards anti-abortion stances. They're the loudest, craziest voices of the pro-abortion side and they've transformed it into a fucking psychotic death cult.

Let em go. You don't want those people breeding and producing kids. They will just make more human garbage.

 

[Kiwi Basement Stalker]

Wrong, there are plenty of people who absolutely say that. Visit the Abortion Debate Thread.


I am not responsible for them spreading their legs and never will be. If I didn't father the child, it is not my responsibility.


Fifteen years ago I would absolutely agree with you. Now? Fuck no. You have hoes twerking on TikTok saying about how much they love abortions and killing their own children to own the Chuds. They do this to the echo of support from literally thousands of deranged and psychotic women. Some of these videos get hundreds of thousands of likes. You have women being called stunning and brave for vowing to abort their babies if they find out they're having boys. You have hoes doing post-abortion celebration videos dancing about how they "yeeted that fetus". They are absolutely rubbing their hands in glee at it.

So no, this needs to fucking stop. The hoes who do this shit are pure fucking evil and are driving normies towards anti-abortion stances. They're the loudest, craziest voices of the pro-abortion side and they've transformed it into a fucking psychotic death cult.

According to your logic - since you didn't father the child and it isn't your responsibility - then you have no right to decide what a woman wants to do with her pregnant body, if she continues the pregnancy, and if she raises the baby herself or not. No responsibility = no say.
Also, unless you are a benefit scrounger yourself, you and other tax payers, will be paying for them anyway, through increased taxes (and there will be even less government spending on other essential areas). No one wants to see masses of starving poor and sick families with kids.


You argument is a weak strawman, picking the most extreme examples as a major representation of the pro-abortion stance. It's not any different from people who claim all right wingers are racist incels who want to rape underaged girls, and all left wingers are sjw tranny worshippers who love muslim cock.

Stop using echo chambers as a reference.
Kiwifarms is full of echo chambers and not representative of the general population. Tiktokers dancing about yeeting a fetus is an echo chamber and also not representative of the general population.

Regular normies aren't browsing through tiktok, looking at the abortion celebrations, then becoming more anti-abortion.



Overall, american views on abortion haven't changed, still pro-abortion.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Abortion is becoming more liberal worldwide.
https://www.cfr.org/article/abortion-law-global-comparisons

Reality isn't what you wish it is.

 

[Agitated Gerbil]

This is not unusual at all. Any society that implements restrictive measures motivated by religion tends to become extremely violent and degenerate, as the whole of the Middle East, India and the Jews themselves exemplify.

 

[Caesare]

I don't understand how it's so hard to not have access to kids if you can't support them.

If you spend a little time around black broads, you will begin to understand. They are completely unprepared for everything and they don't plan ahead, even a little bit, for anything.

Rather than figuring out the best course of action to take for an important choice that will have a major effect on their lives,.they just decide on a whim at the last possible minute.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

You can get rid of them before they become babies.

No you fucking can't. Everybody has an arbitrary cutoff. You'll say 6 weeks, someone else will say conception, another will say at birth, or before the third trimester, etc and only one of those is scientifically, logically, and morally consistent--conception.

Requires proof the baby wasn't born dead.

No it doesn't, they can tell cause of death like with any other homicide investigation, like freezing to death in a dumpster because their cum dumpster baby torture-killing mom threw them in there to go make them a sibling to do it all over again. Wood. Chipper.

Reality isn't what you wish it is.

Like the reality you're a baby killer coping and seething to convince us and yourself that you're not?

This is not unusual at all. Any society that implements restrictive measures motivated by religion tends to become extremely violent and degenerate, as the whole of the Middle East, India and the Jews themselves exemplify.

"Don't kill babies" is a pretty good religious belief, thou shalt not kill is pretty based.

 

[Jhonny Jhon]

This is not unusual at all. Any society that implements restrictive measures motivated by religion tends to become extremely violent and degenerate, as the whole of the Middle East, India and the Jews themselves exemplify.

You're retarded. Comparing mankind to subhumans is just stupid. Who the fuck cares if India has extreme morality and is degenerate? They aren't even humans in the end, so why the fuck should it have any effect whatsoever on an European society.

I would recommend looking at actual human societies of the past that implemented restrictive measures motivated by religion(as you put it) to see what they were like. When you find that they were SUPER DEGENERATE, then you can state that openly by comparing Texas to some kingdom of yore. Retard.

 

[Agitated Gerbil]

"Don't kill babies" is a pretty good religious belief, thou shalt not kill is pretty based.

I'm not interested in talking to the religious, you cannot be objective and you place no value on the individual, rendering discussions pointless. You will see more dead babies and children and you will see babies and children sold on the free market. That will be the only end result of your beliefs.

You're retarded. Comparing mankind to subhumans is just stupid. Who the fuck cares if India has extreme morality and is degenerate? They aren't even humans in the end, so why the fuck should it have any effect whatsoever on an European society.

I would recommend looking at actual human societies of the past that implemented restrictive measures motivated by religion(as you put it) to see what they were like. When you find that they were SUPER DEGENERATE, then you can state that openly by comparing Texas to some kingdom of yore. Retard.

Texas in not an European society and neither is America. Regardless, human nature is always the same, meaning that without exception every strict religious society is inevitably a society of violence, misery and mutual sadism. This is a constant in human history.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I'm not interested in talking to the religious, you cannot be objective and you place no value on the individual, rendering discussions pointless.

I'm sorry that religion saying don't kill babies isn't objective enough for you. Maybe fuck off with your moral relativism.

You will see more dead babies and children

Until abortion is banned, yes.

you will see babies and children sold on the free market. That will be the only end result of your beliefs.

We already see that, you liberals ensured that fags could adopt. That's the end result of YOUR beliefs.

 

[Jhonny Jhon]

I'm not interested in talking to the religious, you cannot be objective and you place no value on the individual, rendering discussions pointless. You will see more dead babies and children and you will see babies and children sold on the free market. That will be the only end result of your beliefs.


Texas in not an European society and neither is America. Regardless, human nature is always the same, meaning that without exception every strict religious society is inevitably a society of violence, misery and mutual sadism. This is a constant in human history.

Of course, I completely forgot that America was built by aliens who came from outer space, gay black aliens. Who settled America? Martians, of course! That's why we say they're a Martian society, because they're descendants of Martians. Are you one of those race-doesn't-matter retards?

 

[Agitated Gerbil]

I'm sorry that religion saying don't kill babies isn't objective enough for you. Maybe fuck off with your moral relativism.


Until abortion is banned, yes.


We already see that, you liberals ensured that fags could adopt. That's the end result of YOUR beliefs.

I'll try to be clearer - it doesn't matter what you believe in and it doesn't matter what you believe your religiously motivated actions will result it. These are beliefs. Beliefs are not facts. Facts are objectively observable, and the same system you advocate has been tried multiple times in human history. Ranging from paganism to monotheism and across the world, and the results are always the same:

A crude, violent society based around mutual sadism and collective misery.

Religion does not approach human beings and human society as they are but what they should be, it tries to force them into a mold. Communism approaches the issue in the same way with the same results. There is no functional difference between religion or hardcore materialism. I repeat - regardless of what you think is going to happen it won't. Regardless of your scriptures and holy books and all their alleged wisdom the end results will be as I have mentioned - more dead babies, more violence, more manmade horrors. There will be a black market for babies and children and it will be very lucrative and well developed, but unlike up until now where adoptions and abortions were done officially and regulated, with many eyes on the whole thing even if the system fucked up, now it will be done in total secrecy and completely undetectable. So in the end, as stated previously, you just made everything worse for everyone. Especially including those babies and children you allegedly want to protect.

At its true core, you oppose abortion because you fear death. All religious people are terrified of death and you all like to imagine you'll live forever. The same drive exists in transhumanists and other such creatures. In short you assume death to be the most horrible fate. It is not. Secondly, whenever I hear about anti-abortion drives and laws I imagine what is obvious - incels who will never have children and scared little boys who deep down know that the only way they can have a family, a wife, is if daddy government keeps her in check for him. Spiritually, you are Indians.

And no, I'm neither liberal nor a woman. I'm just a regular guy, and a boring one at that. Remember my words when more dead babies pop up (they will) and realize you have supported a false system of values.

 

[Agitated Gerbil]

Of course, I completely forgot that America was built by aliens who came from outer space, gay black aliens. Who settled America? Martians, of course! That's why we say they're a Martian society, because they're descendants of Martians. Are you one of those race-doesn't-matter retards?

I apologize to the mods for double-post.

Race absolutely matters, but America is not European in any sense of the word. Your culture if vastly different and so are the very foundations of America. Race does not equal culture. Culture flows from race, but there is nothing European in American mindset or culture. Or for that matter racial components. Whites in America are simply "White Americans" and to a European that means nothing. That isn't an ethnic group with its own culture because American culture is designed to be all consuming. I do not differentiate you from a nigger or a second generation Indian. Only Native Americans and the Jews have authentic culture in the US, the rest of you are just melting away into that chamber pot called USA, even if it takes a generation or two. The "White America" thing was merely one stage of your history, now barely a memory. You are a corporation, nothing more. Hell you even voted for it just now. You'll be significantly more Indian quite soon. And after Whites are gone, and the Indians, perhaps the America of the future will be Arab, or Thai, or Laotian or who knows what.

Fundamentally, nothing will change about America's inner nature. A corporation is a corporation, and its workers are interchangeable.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

A crude, violent society based around mutual sadism and collective misery.

Yes, but enough about societies which permit abortion.

So in the end, as stated previously, you just made everything worse for everyone. Especially including those babies and children you allegedly want to protect.

"if you ban infanticide it'll be even worse for babies, stupid "

In short you assume death to be the most horrible fate. It is not.

You present a false dichotomy, before Roe v Wade there was no worse-than-death hellscape for babies, which suddenly ended once sluts could legally kill their offspring. Stop being retarded.

Secondly, whenever I hear about anti-abortion drives and laws I imagine what is obvious - incels who will never have children and scared little boys who deep down know that the only way they can have a family, a wife, is if daddy government keeps her in check for him.

"only incels don't want to kill babies, and unless you let us kill babies we won't have a family with you, you need to take away our choice to kill babies because otherwise we won't start families"

Utterly deranged anti-natalist whore babble

 

[TenMilesWide]

Religion does not approach human beings and human society as they are but what they should be, it tries to force them into a mold.

Religion tries to force people into a mold because it acknowledges human beings for what they are, in all their sin and evil.
It is known that the creature will behave in ways against its own survival and the survival of the group in pursuit of self-interested greed, religion is a mechanism to prevent that outcome. Hasn't done it perfectly, obviously, the church is inherently subverted by the fact that its body is comprised of sinful mortals, but to throw up your hands and claim the evil in the world is religion's fault instead of sinful man's is, in so few words, very foolish.

 

[Kiwi Basement Stalker]

Like the reality you're a baby killer coping and seething to convince us and yourself that you're not?

Lol! self-projection much. Your retarded ramblings isn't scientific and popular opinion. You and others like you are the ones seething and coping about hard real world facts, most people are pro-choice and will prioritise a woman's autonomy to some extent.

By your definition, yes, I and the majority of people around the world are satanic evil baby killers.
Enjoy living in your autistic moral-fagging hugbox.

 

[MoarTard]

Texas in not an European society and neither is America.

North America was colonized by europeans you dumb faggot. Texas in particular was first colonized by the Spanish empire, then controlled by mexico, and rightfully taken by god fearing americans

And no, I'm neither liberal nor a woman. I'm just a regular guy, and a boring one at that. Remember my words when more dead babies pop up (they will) and realize you have supported a false system of values.

You type walls of text and double post like an offended woman on bluesky. shut your damn piehole.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Lol! self-projection much. Your retarded ramblings isn't scientific and popular opinion.

Not killing babies being unpopular isn't the win you think it is, and life begins at conception, that's the indisputable scientific fact of the matter. All you can do is argue philosophy, "personhood" and such mental gymnastics nonsense.

You and others like you are the ones seething and coping about hard real world facts, most people are pro-choice and will prioritise a woman's autonomy to some extent.

You have zero (0) "hard real world facts". Most people are disinformed and indoctrinated by anti-natalist propaganda their whole lives, so it's actually a miracle there's as strong a pro-life movement as there is.

By your definition, yes, I and the majority of people around the world are satanic evil baby killers.
Enjoy living in your autistic moral-fagging hugbox.

By the objective definition you certainly are, but many people simply don't know the truth. You know all too well though, and so fit that description.

 

[Wood]

most people are pro-choice

Only women care what "most people" think

 

[isalaide]

No it doesn't, they can tell cause of death like with any other homicide investigation, like freezing to death in a dumpster because their cum dumpster baby torture-killing mom threw them in there to go make them a sibling to do it all over again. Wood. Chipper.

Yes, that was the point I was making, the practical difficulty in many cases of proving the cause of death. To successfully prosecute, the state must lead suitable and sufficient forensic evidence that a) the baby was born alive and b) the baby then met its death from other than natural causes. The reason for this is that murder requires the baby actually be killed by someone's actions, but if the baby was a stillbirth, the much lesser crime of failing to dispose correctly of a body (or very similar offence) applies. Murder, or culpable homicide, can be surprisingly difficult since babies dying during unassisted or concealed delivery isn't that uncommon. Humans are not particularly well evolved at this point to give birth alone and unaided and it is more than possible to fuck this up very fatally for the baby. Even modern maternity care has its catastrophic fuckups. One of the main things looked for is evidence that the lungs inflated and the baby respirated. This is pretty good evidence the baby was born alive, but then you need specific evidence to disprove a defence of failed CPR being the cause of the inflation. It is possible to smother the baby quickly enough after birth to make proving they were born alive unlikely to succeed on a 'reasonable doubt' basis. You can sometimes get clear enough patterns of bruising to suggest manual suffocation, and a surprisingly common finding is some kind of dirt or debris in the nose and airways to suggest the baby was held face down on something. There's also manual strangulation with the cord, often looks just enough like strangulation during birth to make meeting the standard of proof difficult in the sense of making the expert evidence sufficient. Strangulation with a ligature other than the cord is much easier to demonstrate. The other big issue with proving murder than dumping the body is that the body was, to state the obvious, dumped. Small bodies can decay and degrade really fast in poor conditions, for example a hot dumpster. The more decayed the body, particularly the soft tissues, the harder proving a cause of death becomes. (Before the 'how do you know this do you kill babies', the answer is no, and that for no particularly good reason, I was allowed to take a number of extra forensic medicine and science options as a very bored undergraduate. This knowledge has had no practical value in my life except I am really excellent at figuring out every Silent Witness episode and ruining it before the end).