Bad Plastic Surgery - all the pics

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Otterly said:
When your brastraps resemble the anchor chain of a bulk grade carrier tanker, you should probably reassess your life choices.
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I'm thinking of handpicking big fragile berries. You pinch the stem with your finger and pull, when you get home you all sit around the kitchen table talking with the berries spread out, pulling off the bikini tops so there won't be any inedible crud in the jam.

edit: my mistake, i was thinking of picking cloudberries, you have to be careful with those because they burst easily if picked directly, so clean the leafs at home.
 
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believe all women said:
Just as an update on this guy, here is what he had to say after the procedure:

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Imagine bragging about that surgery, when even the members of incel boards tell you you've made a terrible mistake.
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I was looking over there, and it's sad - a lot of these guys talk about how badly they need plastic surgery (major stuff like jaw surgery) or they'll never get laid, and then they post their pictures and they look just fine.
 
Everything Beagle said:
I was looking over there, and it's sad - a lot of these guys talk about how badly they need plastic surgery (major stuff like jaw surgery) or they'll never get laid, and then they post their pictures and they look just fine.
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The average guy who posts there looks above average, from what I have seen. I think the reason is that these guys get some of the social affirmation of being good looking, but they are also kept at a distance (and perhaps sometimes bullied) due to their lack of social skills. I think it's similar to how male serial killers are often handsome men (Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, etc.). They have the dominance and aggression of attractive people, but not the empathy they could get from real relationships.

Everything Beagle said:
Here's an article about a plastic surgeon who will do basically anything men ask for. Of course he's a god to incels.
How Many Bones Would You Break to Get Laid?
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Yeah, you could get all of those surgeries with enough money. It's not unusual for maxillofacial surgeons who perform jaw surgery to have plastic surgery specialties as well. There's a number of surgeons who advertise their before/afters on social media pages.
 
believe all women said:
I think it's similar to how male serial killers are often handsome men (Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, etc.). They have the dominance and aggression of attractive people, but not the empathy they could get from real relationships.
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Not really, these are probably at most autistic (asperger). Serial killers mostly have psychopathy. They are intelligent (mostly), that's why they're serial killers and not just one time killers.
They literally can't feel empathy, but they can learn it by looking at normal people. This is called cold empathy.
 
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believe all women said:
The average guy who posts there looks above average, from what I have seen. I think the reason is that these guys get some of the social affirmation of being good looking, but they are also kept at a distance (and perhaps sometimes bullied) due to their lack of social skills
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From what I’ve seen of ‘incels’ or whatever the media is demonising boys as these days, some seem to be irredeemably insane shitheads who hate women, but a lot just seem like lads who are a bit awkward and lost in the current extrovert/hyper sexual culture. I can sympathise with that. Where do slightly shy slightly spergy people meet others like them these days? School and colleges have been online for a year and a half. You aren’t allowed to flirt with people at work or you’ll get me tooed. Dating apps seem to be a morass of extrovert horror, non binary madness and the kind of girl who has eyelashes like half a split tarantula glued to each eye. I’m old, but I’ve no idea how I’d meet anyone if I were young now. Too much concentration on surface looks
 
Otterly said:
From what I’ve seen of ‘incels’ or whatever the media is demonising boys as these days, some seem to be irredeemably insane shitheads who hate women, but a lot just seem like lads who are a bit awkward and lost in the current extrovert/hyper sexual culture. I can sympathise with that. Where do slightly shy slightly spergy people meet others like them these days? School and colleges have been online for a year and a half. You aren’t allowed to flirt with people at work or you’ll get me tooed.
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My impression have been that they have sort of internalized the crazy pop-culture feminist ideas about not approaching women and never to hit on women you don't know, and don't hit on those that you know either. They sort of deep down think of it as the actual law(and like you say, there's metoo). I bet dollars to donuts that lots of the incels have grown up in environments filled with those kind of left wing messages, like the atheism circles, tech, comics, games and the internet in general. All of those thing have turned increasingly woker and woker over many years now.

I think part of it is that as teens they take all of that to heart in a very idealistic way, be good, don't be bad, make the world a better place. Then they become confused, frustrated, angry and over the years it turns them slightly mad because they can't figure out the rules because what they see as the ruleset does not make sense or have a solid enough internal consistency where they can use that to figure it all out. For a bunch of young dudes that might be slightly touched by the 'tism that will be probably be like hell. I don't know if there's anywhere they can turn to for guidance in the same way they would be able to turn to people/places for advice on sexual health and contraceptives - if they ever got over the initial roadblock and needed advice like that.
 
Otterly said:
Where do slightly shy slightly spergy people meet others like them these days? School and colleges have been online for a year and a half. You aren’t allowed to flirt with people at work or you’ll get me tooed. Dating apps seem to be a morass of extrovert horror, non binary madness and the kind of girl who has eyelashes like half a split tarantula glued to each eye. I’m old, but I’ve no idea how I’d meet anyone if I were young now. Too much concentration on surface looks
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I echo a lot of this sentiment. After my divorce, and in the midst of the coof… how do people meet anymore? It doesn't help that I've never been much of a barfly and don't really see the appeal in paying a huge markup to drink a bottle of beer in a loud room full of obnoxious people. Things haven't been entirely fruitless but I've yet to find The One 2.0 or anyone close enough and as I'm getting older I'm starting to wonder if I ever will.

Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
I don't know if there's anywhere they can turn to for guidance in the same way they would be able to turn to people/places for advice on sexual health and contraceptives - if they ever got over the initial roadblock and needed advice like that.
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So you're saying you think there should be dating-ed classes? :sonichu:

I kinda agree though. Not necessarily dating-ed, but more generally classes in how to socialize for the socially-awkward, taking into account whatever the current "rules" are when it comes to stuff like #metoo. Unfortunately, kids attending such classes would probably be bullied and made fun of, so maybe the whole thing would backfire…
 
Least Concern said:
I kinda agree though. Not necessarily dating-ed, but more generally classes in how to socialize for the socially-awkward, taking into account whatever the current "rules" are when it comes to stuff like #metoo. Unfortunately, kids attending such classes would probably be bullied and made fun of, so maybe the whole thing would backfire…
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Things needs to change is all I'm saying, not date-ed for love-quests, the PUA cult are preying on people for that and that's not good.
Sort of tangentially related to bad plastic surgery I also think that dudes like that might troon out so they can thirst after women in a non-male way that is absolutely 100% the same as incels but kosher. It loops back to what Otterly said about the demonization of boys and it's not something new.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
I don't know if there's anywhere they can turn to for guidance
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there's nothing

if they ask women or successful males, they'll get one of two reactions - either just mockery and ridicule for being a loser, or worthless "just be yourself bro" non-advice that feels a lot like when boomers are talking about how all you need to do to get a good job is give the manager a firm handshake lol

the only place where their problems are even taken seriously at all are internet redpill/blackpill communities, and the 'advice' you get from those dudes is shit like
>sleazy PUA tricks
>autistic looksmaxx obsession with jawlines and cheekbones
>incel doom and gloom
needless to say, none of it helps, it'll just make the problem worse over time
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
My impression have been that they have sort of internalized the crazy pop-culture feminist ideas about not approaching women and never to hit on women you don't know, and don't hit on those that you know either. They sort of deep down think of it as the actual law(and like you say, there's metoo). I bet dollars to donuts that lots of the incels have grown up in environments filled with those kind of left wing messages, like the atheism circles, tech, comics, games and the internet in general. All of those thing have turned increasingly woker and woker over many years now.

I think part of it is that as teens they take all of that to heart in a very idealistic way, be good, don't be bad, make the world a better place. Then they become confused, frustrated, angry and over the years it turns them slightly mad because they can't figure out the rules because what they see as the ruleset does not make sense or have a solid enough internal consistency where they can use that to figure it all out. For a bunch of young dudes that might be slightly touched by the 'tism that will be probably be like hell. I don't know if there's anywhere they can turn to for guidance in the same way they would be able to turn to people/places for advice on sexual health and contraceptives - if they ever got over the initial roadblock and needed advice like that.
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Mate, these losers are just oblivious to the fact that they create their own echo chamber, and are too fucking blind and stupid to see when someone offers them a clear way out. This is not new thing. It's been going on for a very long time.

Some years back I was at a support meeting for people with the 'tism (it might be worth noting that this is before the troon infection broke out). I was the only one of the XX persuasion in the gathering of about sixty to seventy males. At the end of the meeting the floor was opened to suggestions for improving the club in the coming year, and I raised my voice and put forth that we should put effort into attracting more female members. The men half-heartedly batted my suggestion around for a minute before telling me I should just go and form my own club.

Several questions later, a soft, plaintive voice arose from deep within the mass of unwashed bodies: "Does anyone know how I can find a girlfriend who will love me and understand me and won't betray me?" The face of every man there grew tragic and their eyes welled with tears of rejection and longing. All I wanted to do was smack my forehead against a wall.

You can lead an incel to water, but the brain dead fucker's going to whine and bitch until he gets Mountain Dew instead.
 
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