Bad webcomics

[Cnidarian]

Yeah I've always found this guy's stuff to be about as funny as you can expect from royalty-free edutainment. The characters look and act like the IRL writers they're based on and you can tell he is passionate about history and whatnot. I'm not going to begrudge a sperg with a school newspaper comic for liking to read books. It's weird how angry some people are getting over the fact that he likes the idea of a capital gains tax. I come here to see Dave Cheung-level shit.

Fair enough. I decided since that I should only be posting communist apologia. This isn't exactly that but it is trivializing a communist.

Spoiler: Author Rant

Aquinas is one of the most important theological thinkers in coming up with the justifications for why European Christians were so weird about sex for the next several hundred years. Essentially, God designed our bodies to have sex in order to produce children, so any use of sex that wasn't with the intent to produce children was a "sin against nature", for going against God's divine plan for us to have boring sex forever. Things like gay sex, masturbation, oral, etc, were strictly forbidden. In fact, sins against nature were categorically higher than sins against your fellow man, so masturbation would have to be considered worse than things like rape or murder. Some priests even told married couples not to take off their clothes entirely during sex, because they would be at risk of enjoying it too much, and even enjoying it while making kids was pretty suspect.
For Sartre, there was no such thing as "human nature". God, if He exists, abandoned us without instruction, so it is up to us alone to define what things are "for". Sex is a creative act, like everything else in life, and we define its meaning. This of course led to a libertine attitude, with people like de Beauvoir even giving some defense of people like the Marquis de Sade, claiming he was living an ethical life, according to his own ethics (pure egoism). His only real mistake was the failure to recognize that he is embedded with others, and dealing with that in his theories (i.e. maybe get consent first).
At some point later in his life Aquinas had some kind of mystical experience that caused him to say all his writing was "like straw", and he wrote nothing more after that.

Aquinas would probably say that nonconsexual sex, even with another adult, is bad for children, so I think that he wins this one.

 

[Chromeo]

This is where I genuinely couldn't believe we're supposed to sympathize with Maggie. The family is in debt, on top of paying for both daughters to go to college, which Maggie is squandering, and she doesn't even have a fucking job, so they're entirely paying for her loser lifestyle. It's not a threat when they're FUNDING YOUR LIFE. GET A FUCKING JOB! Maggie is a leech on everyone around her BUTTTT she's just a heckin KID!

while Maggie is obnoxious and should have at least some kind of an idea of what she wants to major in after her first year at college (which tbh first two years are usually dominated by general ed classes anyway, don't know why Maggie couldn't just go to some cheapo community college while she figures her shit out and gets those basic classes taken care of to transfer to a real college later when she knows for sure what she's majoring in) I also think the mom is being a bitch here (dog pun notwithstanding.) She starts this heavy-ass conversation out of nowhere by criticizing Maggie's posture for no reason while she's in a mood and Maggie's on her way to make food. I get that nobody's perfectly logical, but come on. What was the actual goal of this sudden conversation, what did the mom expect Maggie to say? "Gee mom, now that you've caught me off guard and insulted me and put me on edge, I magically know exactly how I'm going to live the rest of my life!"

This is a huge conversation, especially with money and debt on the line. Both parents should've intentionally sat Maggie down and been like "let's discuss what you're hoping to get out of college and figure out what you're going to major in," that's going to get much better results than a drive-by "hey quick question do you have your life figured out yet? also stand up straight." Maggie would probably still be a whiner who goes to mope with her loser friends in the woods, but like, at least then it's entirely on Maggie.

 

[Disc]

while Maggie is obnoxious and should have at least some kind of an idea of what she wants to major in after her first year at college (which tbh first two years are usually dominated by general ed classes anyway, don't know why Maggie couldn't just go to some cheapo community college while she figures her shit out and gets those basic classes taken care of to transfer to a real college later when she knows for sure what she's majoring in) I also think the mom is being a bitch here (dog pun notwithstanding.) She starts this heavy-ass conversation out of nowhere by criticizing Maggie's posture for no reason while she's in a mood and Maggie's on her way to make food. I get that nobody's perfectly logical, but come on. What was the actual goal of this sudden conversation, what did the mom expect Maggie to say? "Gee mom, now that you've caught me off guard and insulted me and put me on edge, I magically know exactly how I'm going to live the rest of my life!"

This is a huge conversation, especially with money and debt on the line. Both parents should've intentionally sat Maggie down and been like "let's discuss what you're hoping to get out of college and figure out what you're going to major in," that's going to get much better results than a drive-by "hey quick question do you have your life figured out yet? also stand up straight." Maggie would probably still be a whiner who goes to mope with her loser friends in the woods, but like, at least then it's entirely on Maggie.

Your not wrong that the mom chose a bad time and place, even that she was being a bit of a bitch about it, but I find it hard to read this and not infer that this conversation has happened numerous times before to obviously no results, probably no matter what they tried. And like Brenda said, Maggie’s basically dead weight right now.

 

[Dendyy]

de Beauvoir

Didn't Simone de Beauvoir say that women should be forced to work in factories so they wouldn't be tempted by the allure of being a stay-at-home mother? I hate communists.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

I guess Instagram is showing me Dog Haus from now on. Maggie got asked again about what major she’ll take by a counselor/advisor I presume, so she bullshits it.

And of course she’s kicking herself for it. Some other character calls her out on her wishy washy bullshit.


Needless to say she gets all defensive and pretty much acts like her wasting her opportunity to be going to college (and her parents’ money) isn’t that big of a deal.

 

[Marquis de Cow]

I guess Instagram is showing me Dog Haus from now on. Maggie got asked again about what major she’ll take by a counselor/advisor I presume, so she bullshits it.
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And of course she’s kicking herself for it. Some other character calls her out on her wishy washy bullshit.
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Needless to say she gets all defensive and pretty much acts like her wasting her opportunity to be going to college (and her parents’ money) isn’t that big of a deal.
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based ass poodle

 

[Chromeo]

I guess Instagram is showing me Dog Haus from now on. Maggie got asked again about what major she’ll take by a counselor/advisor I presume, so she bullshits it.
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And of course she’s kicking herself for it. Some other character calls her out on her wishy washy bullshit.
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Needless to say she gets all defensive and pretty much acts like her wasting her opportunity to be going to college (and her parents’ money) isn’t that big of a deal.
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I'm with the poodle, Maggie doesn't even have the excuse of doing other things. She's literally talking to the advisor and still can't think of what to do. Why are you even in college??? What generally do you want to do? What do you LIKE doing? You're making a webcomic, why not go into art??

 

[JellyMaggot]

I think everyone has had a conversation with their mom just like this at one point in their life.

Spoiler: awful powerlevel

College has been tough for me. My grades started to fall in the second half, and I feel like I've had this same tone of a conversation with my mom a good few times. I can't help but sympathize with Maggie. I don't like being incompetent, it's shameful. And even if you want to change, talking to anyone about it, even if their intentions are good, can just feel like rubbing salt in the wound. Confrontation sucks. Especially when the conversations are fueled by emotions. Maggie's very much in the wrong and needs to think about the future and the people her decisions are impacting, but it's hard to pull your head out of your own ass and learn how to blame yourself properly.

I haven't browsed the whole comic but from the snippets posted here, she seems the type to be wrapped up cozy in accepting her problems, and so less than willing to change. She's got the same power fantasies I used to have. She's sort of painting her mom as the bad guy here, and while sure, her mom could manage the situation better, I'm certain that Maggie's mom loves her and wants her to do well for her own sake. Realizing that had helped me be less walled off with my mom. I mean gosh, she's my mom! She wants to help me! Nowadays, I think I'm actually making progress away from being as much of a lazy loser as I used to be (It turns out not directly doing anything to improve means that you don't improve. Why is that so hard to learn??). I like to think I'm self aware and hopeful enough to get better, unlike Maggie. I hope I am. But I'm wasting time on here, writing this out, so maybe not.

Spoiler: completely off topic

While I'm here creating this waterfall of TMI, does anyone have this whole "free time" thing figured out? I feel like it's important to waste time, I just can't wrap my head around the specifics of it. Is there a bad way to waste time? Are there leisurely activities that take more priority than others? I've got plenty of examples of what NOT to do from the people featured on this website, I just don't know what's good TO do, when it's good to take a break or indulge, all that jazz. It's not intuitive to me. Does anyone know? I've asked so many people about this and they mostly just say "feel it out" which has not been working for me.

 

[Brenda Holiday]

The poodle is Jillian and she's my fav

OT

Later in the comic Maggie has a conversation with someone that you might like to read, it's #135+ on webtoon if you don't care about the plot/spoilers. I don't relate to her at all so I don't think much of the advice that's given to her, it'd be nice to hear different perspectives on it.

 

[JellyMaggot]

The poodle is Jillian and she's my fav

Later in the comic Maggie has a conversation with someone that you might like to read, it's #135+ on webtoon if you don't care about the plot/spoilers. I don't relate to her at all so I don't think much of the advice that's given to her, it'd be nice to hear different perspectives on it.

Thank you for that. Funny coincidence how your profile picture is a bear!
I don't have too much to say about it aside from what's spelled out. I think that's neuroticism: you're always looking for ways to avoid losing, rather than ways to win. When you're too afraid of doing something wrong, you never allow for the possibility of doing something right, so nothing good happens to you. That's a feeling I definitely relate to.

 

[Ghostse]

College has been tough for me. My grades started to fall in the second half, and I feel like I've had this same tone of a conversation with my mom

If you are having trouble, go see your school's Academic Success office (every place calls it something different). They can help you figure out why you're falling and help you correct it. Schools have a vested interest in keep your grades high and you enrolled.

Also remember in most cases, it doesn't matter what your degree is in as long as you have one. So don't feel like your major is your life path. You can always change careers later.

OT about free time.

No one can give you solid answer because its going to come down to personal tastes and preferences.

You're goddamn college, you have the freedom,time, and recovery ability to do anything you want. You can do whatever retarded shit you want just because you can. Just go do whatever random shit you see happening. You see bunch of washed white guys in dreads forming a drum circle? join in. Go see some horrible incomprehsible arthouse film. Visit the student art gallery. Sign up for a gaming club. See what is recruiting, force your roomate to tag along, try anything you can.
From a long term life perspective, i would remember Running/rowing clubs or otherwise hitting the gym. Its always good to have a healthy habit.

Do more of the stuff you like. Don't do stuff you don't. No one has shit figured out.

not to go all new-age fag, but if you are resting, recharging, and improving your mental state by doing something you enjoy, you are not "wasting time" even if its not directly productive.
The issue is that lot of people do non-productive things that do not improve their mental state and often degrade it, or have no ability or drive to be productive (your average stoner).

 

[Friendly Primarina]

You're goddamn college, you have the freedom,time, and recovery ability to do anything you want. You can do whatever retarded shit you want just because you can. Just go do whatever random shit you see happening. You see bunch of washed white guys in dreads forming a drum circle? join in. Go see some horrible incomprehsible arthouse film. Visit the student art gallery. Sign up for a gaming club. See what is recruiting, force your roomate to tag along, try anything you can.

Something I wish I'd known before college is that networking and making connections is just as important as your chosen subject, if not more so.

Very few people just walk into a job after college with a degree alone, you have to know a guy. Making friends and helping each other out increases your chances.

 

[Ghostse]

Something I wish I'd known before college is that networking and making connections is just as important as your chosen subject, if not more so.

Very few people just walk into a job after college with a degree alone, you have to know a guy. Making friends and helping each other out increases your chances.

Dead honest, I have only gotten one job (ok, technically two; the 2nd was an internal transfer) via networking. Everything else has been a cold application or via a recruiter.

Now, I have a skill set that has more demand than applicants so that is a consideration.

And networking DEFINITELY makes things easier. It is nice to walk into an interview and know you already have the job - they just want to make sure you aren't a total mutant.

THAT SAID
What I wish I would have done in college is gotten more work experience working job at the school. I should have gotten a student job doing something close to my chosen field because walking in with a 3.0 GPA and no experience was rough, especially since there was a industry wide contraction when I was in the market.
I ended up getting employed via the one branch of the Federal government that is always hiring. Once I had the first private job though, everything else was gravy. i don't get every job I apply to, but I have a good hit rate.

 

[singlele]

Dead honest, I have only gotten one job (ok, technically two; the 2nd was an internal transfer) via networking. Everything else has been a cold application or via a recruiter.

Now, I have a skill set that has more demand than applicants so that is a consideration.

And networking DEFINITELY makes things easier. It is nice to walk into an interview and know you already have the job - they just want to make sure you aren't a total mutant.

THAT SAID
What I wish I would have done in college is gotten more work experience working job at the school. I should have gotten a student job doing something close to my chosen field because walking in with a 3.0 GPA and no experience was rough, especially since there was a industry wide contraction when I was in the market.
I ended up getting employed via the one branch of the Federal government that is always hiring. Once I had the first private job though, everything else was gravy. i don't get every job I apply to, but I have a good hit rate.

I was lucky enough to have a lot of opportunities during my undergrad. I got my bachelor's in data science and before I graduated I had 2 semesters as a TA, a research apprenticeship thing, and two internships. Post graduation I had to leave my first job because my position got relocated (I later learned that they offshored my job) and I'm about to get fired from my current job which I've been at since October thanks to having an Indian woman boss. Both of these jobs were in banking in finance. Given the fucked up economy and job market I'm considering just going full NEET for the foreseeable future.

 

[Chromeo]

Given the fucked up economy and job market I'm considering just going full NEET for the foreseeable future.

I was a NEET for about a year recently and man, the job market is so much worse than it was the last time I was looking for a job. It took me three months of dedicated applying just to get a shitty job where I stand on concrete all day. and it goes without saying that this is yet another job where even if I got full-time hours, I wouldn't make enough to be financially independent from my parents. I'm pretty sure at this rate I just need to start saving money for when my parents die and I have to live out of my car in a walmart parking lot for the rest of my life.

 

[Ghostse]

I was a NEET for about a year recently and man, the job market is so much worse than it was the last time I was looking for a job. It took me three months of dedicated applying just to get a shitty job where I stand on concrete all day. and it goes without saying that this is yet another job where even if I got full-time hours, I wouldn't make enough to be financially independent from my parents. I'm pretty sure at this rate I just need to start saving money for when my parents die and I have to live out of my car in a walmart parking lot for the rest of my life.

I know this is the Webcomic thread and not the life advice thread - I mean "webcomics" and "good life choices" are on the other side of the galaxy from one another.

But if you want a good paying job that is having a labor shortage and will always be there, HVAC technician.
There is a serious shortage of HVAC people nation wide. Its hot, dirty work but it pays. Since you need licensing and certification, and most localities are up your ass about that, its largely free of illegals (or the illegals need someone with license to mind them). I have no idea how the fuck you start because local laws and codes are different, but if you can do basic math and moderate home improvement projects, you can be the junior guy in the truck. Ask a guy in a HVAC truck or call them up a place for tips.
To quote a guy I knew: "Its tough, hot work but You'll be running your own business by 30 and retired by 50 if you know what you're doing".

If you are looking for something white collar, COBOL programer. Every bank runs on COBOL on mainframes. They were SUPPOSED to be going away to be replaced with the newest hotness but lol that never happened and all the old guys are getting really old and virtually everyone I've talked to with hiring authority over that area is VERY nervous.

If you are looking for something white collar and you feel like you can pass the IQ bar, Electrical Engineer - that is, the guys who design chips and circuits and do low-level programming. You can't outsource it, you can't turn it over to AI, and everyone making anything that powers on needs them. The downside is the job WILL cook your brain, and unlike most computer toucher jobs you will not be able to browse reddit or play candy crush. You need to be very smart and good with math. But once you are in.... this is a job that existed since the 50s and is recession & future proof.

Othewise, there is Police and the Military.

If you are already stuck living with your parents, leverage that shit to the max, now is the time to retain and unfuck your life.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If you are already stuck living with your parents, leverage that shit to the max, now is the time to retain and unfuck your life.

When people talk about not having money and living with their parents, I always ask "Are you parents charging you rent?" When I was first working full time my parents charged me $25 just to contribute to bills. The rest I blew on useless bullshit I didn't need until I moved out and was forced to adjust my spending habits. When I moved back in with them a year later, I now had extra money and was able to save that so that when I moved out again, I had a nice little nest egg.

If you need money ASAP, ICE is hiring whoever they can get. Yeah it's risky but it's money. ICE starting salary varies but if it's $50k like some places say, and you're living at home and don't have to pay rent, you should be able to put $35k of that into a savings account at 3%. After three years, you've got more than $100k, plus your interest, and that's assuming you don't get a raise. Depending on where you live, you can get a deposit for an apartment, move in a roommate to help with the mortgage, and still have plenty for a cushion. Then you go get a job somewhere else if you want.

Getting back on topic, that college comic reminded me of Andrew Dobson's unfinished comic where he had "Kevin James" mooch off of his parents because he spent more time doodling at work instead of doing his job.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Getting back on topic, that college comic reminded me of Andrew Dobson's unfinished comic where he had "Kevin James" mooch off of his parents because he spent more time doodling at work instead of doing his job.

Damn, been a while since I heard of that one. There’s actually a tumblr blog inspired by The Hypocrisy of Andrew Dobson that did a full review and breakdown of this comic, showing that throughout this whole attempt at an underdog story, Kevin hardly does anything to help himself. And is pulled from the brink by a miracle, having learned nothing.

https://www.tumblr.com/soyouareandrewdobson/620297790898208768/the-biggest-post-yet-analyzing-a-multipage-story?source=share

 

[The Great One]

So i was on tiktok and I got this ad from some gay furfag who plays games on twitch. And xhey were fucking screaming xheir lungs out the entire time and my rest of the hour was ruined.

I don't need to make any jokes the video writes itself, also my ears fucking hurt from listening to this video. Bad impressions but at least the art isn't straight bad furfag trash, it's just gay furfag trash

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Fuck you all, just like SnP’s comics I think I’m starting to try and keep up with Dog Haus just to see how bad/questionable it gets. It doesn’t help that on Instagram the comments sections are full of debate on who’s right or wrong.


Five weeks?? Yeah, that should be cause for an intervention.


Hoo boy. This is a lot to unpack. I can’t tell if this is supposed to be a “they’re both wrong” situation or the mom deliberately being written to be a literal bitch.
On one hand, I can sort of sympathize with Maggie. It took me a while to figure out my career path, and depression is a bitch. Hell, I’m still shaking off a seasonal slump to get my last few assignments in. But it’s true that she hasn’t really been putting in any effort to try and help herself. I guess it’s debatable on if that would actually work, people are complex like that.
Idfk, I’m mostly just rambling off a train of thought, but bottom line something about this all rubs me the wrong way.