hey another oldfag. i spent a friday evening reading all this guys comic strips sometime in 2001 or 2002 and i remember regretting it, could have and should have done literally anything else.
since i'm going down the late 90s webcomic memory lane, ded lolcow mr. lowtax made webcomics too, but ironically. computer or gayming related. looking at some of these, they influenced my retarded sense of humor more than i care to admit.
Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.
You see, during the 2000 Superbowl, Budweiser aired the Wassup commercial.
It was immensely popular. Kurtz capitalized on this fact with the 'Huzzah' comic:
For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.
Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.
For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.
Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
Speaking of being old as fuck...
PvP was already brought up in the thread but of course there was nothing particularly interesting about it aside from the fact that Kurtz was still cranking them out all the way into 2022. And just like almost every other golden age 'geek' webcomic, it got a fanbase simply because it existed. I remember exactly one comic from the entire time I read it.
For me and my faggot friends, this was about the funniest thing we ever read. Someone signs in to AOL Instant Messenger? You bet they're getting a huzzah. And a forsooth.
Alright that's it I promise not to wax nostalgic about this shit any more.
I did not like PvP. I did not like Kurtz from what little I know of him.
Kurtz wanted to be a newspaper syndicated cartoonist so,so bad. He basically had PvP running to syndicated image constraints until at least 2010.
that said, Daily PvP was fucking worthless. I didn't like his cast or their layer smug self righteousness, I did not enjoy his lack of humor. However when he did a special event it was usually worth a read except for his gay cat vs. Santa comic. but the Ombudsmen was a decent read.
I would have respected the hustle if he was less of a fart huffing prick to the end.
Also, for everyone shitting on "golden age" webcomics, I remind you that the instagram comics that have come after: Mom Comics, Pizza Cake, the previous wave of "Adulting, amirite?" comics....all of them are just as cringe and often even worse.
I did not like PvP. I did not like Kurtz from what little I know of him.
Kurtz wanted to be a newspaper syndicated cartoonist so,so bad. He basically had PvP running to syndicated image constraints until at least 2010.
that said, Daily PvP was fucking worthless. I didn't like his cast or their layer smug self righteousness, I did not enjoy his lack of humor. However when he did a special event it was usually worth a read except for his gay cat vs. Santa comic. but the Ombudsmen was a decent read.
I would have respected the hustle if he was less of a fart huffing prick to the end.
Also, for everyone shitting on "golden age" webcomics, I remind you that the instagram comics that have come after: Mom Comics, Pizza Cake, the previous wave of "Adulting, amirite?" comics....all of them are just as cringe and often even worse.
Kurtz's big problem was that he thought he was ready for the big time when he wasn't and refused to accept that maybe the 'old fogies' as he called them knew better than he did. By 2010, he admitted that the old PVP strips were pedestrian and he thought it was stupid that anyone liked them. At the time he was drawing them? They were just as good as any other newspaper comic out there, the crotchety old men at the newspapers are just afraid of change because it's different. He kept being needlessly antagonistic towards them, he couldn't even accept his Eisner graciously, and then whined and moaned that the National Cartoonist Society didn't want anything to do with him.
But the reason he thought that webcomics was the way of the future is because he had so little experience with print comics that he genuinely thought the money he got from his PVP print issues were comparable with what everyone else got. Those contained strips that were six to eight months old at the time of printing and averaged around 5K sold a month. Eventually a guy in the industry broke down costs, pointed out how little Scott was making compared to others, and he decided to quit working with Image to get a bigger slice of the pie (Image only takes 5% plus printing costs).
At the time of his height, a newspaper comic earned $5 per newspaper per week. That means if you could get into 56 newspapers, you were earning national minimum wage. But the unions didn't stop at that, they got you into as many papers as possible, with 1000 being a low end. That means that he could have apologized to the unions, created a brand new comic, gotten it accepted, and made more in a week than PVP was making in a month.
But he refused to accept that the print comics could give him anything beyond a pittance because that's what he and his buddies were getting, so clearly anyone who said differently had to be a hater.
Hi, what problem did people have with that?? It's a webcomic, he's allowed to be edgy or unconventional, no? I know it's far in the past but here's a dude showing us that even if you can't draw, just make your stick people visually clear and the action easy to follow, and people will still tune in to become fans of your well-written series. Why must modern day nerds constantly shoot each other down instead of shooting rockets into space?
Hi, what problem did people have with that?? It's a webcomic, he's allowed to be edgy or unconventional, no? I know it's far in the past but here's a dude showing us that even if you can't draw, just make your stick people visually clear and the action easy to follow, and people will still tune in to become fans of your well-written series. Why must modern day nerds constantly shoot each other down instead of shooting rockets into space?
No, you just mentioned "The Paladin" and O-Chul got an entire kickstarter story, so I just assumed your post was about him and not the old-school controversy of Miko Miyazaki. Also, Burlew, at least at the time he statrted OotS, was a moderately skilled artist; the stick figures were a stylistic/practicality choice.
Nerds have been throwing each other upon the train tracks my entire life. Honestly, with the state of nerd hobbies these days, I wish they were more effective at it.
At the time of his height, a newspaper comic earned $5 per newspaper per week. That means if you could get into 56 newspapers, you were earning national minimum wage. But the unions didn't stop at that, they got you into as many papers as possible, with 1000 being a low end. That means that he could have apologized to the unions, created a brand new comic, gotten it accepted, and made more in a week than PVP was making in a month.
That sure explains why a bunch of the old newspaper guys would retire early or take long hiatuses.
Speaking of cash, I'll make one counterpoint to the current vibe of dunking on the old webcomics. One thing the Golden Age comics had over the modern webtoon trend is they were easier to get into. Less paywalling, less Patreon begging; just go to a newgrounds page and ignore the hideous banner ads.
That sure explains why a bunch of the old newspaper guys would retire early or take long hiatuses.
Speaking of cash, I'll make one counterpoint to the current vibe of dunking on the old webcomics. One thing the Golden Age comics had over the modern webtoon trend is they were easier to get into. Less paywalling, less Patreon begging; just go to a newgrounds page and ignore the hideous banner ads.
Or just go to Comic Genesis, Drunk Duck, or Smack Jeeves and you could find a bunch of comics in the genre you liked. Even if they stopped updating, there was another one ready for you to sink your teeth into. And if you wanted to make your own, the communities were generally nice enough to give you real advice instead of the hug boxes of today, and the only people who hated them were usually the people who wanted a hug box to tell them how amazing they were.
Time for another look at the disgustingly fluffy alphabet soup hell of Wigglyverse. So it’s been established that Gary (the polar bear) is a child who used to be homophobic but is now an advocate.
Recently his mother has been introduced, who is described as “an amalgamation of the shitty things [I’ve] heard about queer people”.
With that out of the way, here’s the start of his “redemption arc” that involves him being bitten by one of the gay dads’ kids and not getting aids.
That kid is giving some real “tranny humor is just violence against people I hate” energy.
Look, I don’t spend a lot of time around people who are outwardly homophobic irl, but I’m finding myself having a hard time believing anyone would be like this in this situation.
Man. Normally I’m all for parents rewarding their kids for standing up to a bully, but this is just too retarded. I’ll get to the rest of the arc later because this art style alone is a biohazard.
Was RawDawg already posted here? Did not find it in the search.
Man had developed a distinctive, remarkable art style only to create a fuckton of damn unfunny, uninspired furry hornyposting material. I discovered it randomly via a troon in my fb friends (of course).
Was RawDawg already posted here? Did not find it in the search.
Man had developed a distinctive, remarkable art style only to create a fuckton of damn unfunny, uninspired furry hornyposting material. I discovered it randomly via a troon in my fb friends (of course).
>Distinctive
As-in "An obvious knockoff of ' The Amazing Imaginings of Bubs and Baxter'"
possibly also "Asswolf" - although RawDawg's characters are clearly copied from various other "cool & hip" twitter retards. That's why they have 0 consistency.
I'm still unsure why he decided to draw all the dogs perpetually melting though.
