Baked Alaska / Tim Treadstone / Tim Gionet / Anthime Joseph Gionet - White rapper, alt-right "activist", ex-Buzzfeed contributor; got arrested at the March for Trump, and a federal snitch

AnOminous said:
Yes there is. He hasn't been sentenced yet and can plead to a sentence, rather than having a sentencing hearing.
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state is going for aggravated sentencing (dunno what that means tbh) and defense has filed for a mitigation hearing.
 
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FujiWuji said:
I was watching older tv shoes recently. Like The Wire and True Detective. The characters (especially the blacks) joke about prison rape. The season 3 true detective, uh, detective, is extremely blunt with it.


That's just one example. There's one or two even more extreme examples in the show I cant find.
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Don't forget Prison Rape the Series, Oz (which was also on HBO).


Jokes about prison rape are so common in American media we mutts just assume it comes as part of the punishment. It wasn't until recently when twitter fags would pop up to tell us how offensive it is to joke about white cornholes violated by BBC because they made poor choices in life.
 
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That stack of DVR's our boy Zach shit his shiny pants about will likely play a larger role in the sentencing hearing.

And I do think Baked will find his way into protective custody & we'll have to hear about how his living in a single cell makes him the new Assange.
 
Cat Menagerie said:
JFC what is it with you people and anal rape? Can't even go a page without someone bringing it up.
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People think that all the movies about prison/jail represent the actual reality of being incarcerated, basically. I don't expect Baked Alaska to do much more than sit on his fat white trash ass and be bored out of his mind for a few months at most. County jails in particular tend to be very secure places with guards that don't tolerate bullshit.
 
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gaystoner said:
state is going for aggravated sentencing (dunno what that means tbh) and defense has filed for a mitigation hearing.
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And they can cut a deal any time before that is resolved. A deal can generally be cut any time before the imposition of a sentence. Up until then, the case is not final.

Aggravated sentencing means an upward departure and mitigation is a downward departure from the sentencing guidelines.
 
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LiquidKid said:
Yeah, I’m honesty shocked how anyone manages to go to jail for anything after all of the false alarms.
Like, if you’re not fucking a kid or murdering someone. You’re basically let go
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People seemed surprised at the 2 day plea deal for what was basically aggravated assault on another forum I browse, but I wasn't.

Someone a friend of mine knows pleaded guilty to manslaughter after murdering a guy over nothing (booze) and they let him plea down to voluntary manslaughter. He served 6 years for pointlessly murdering another person.
 
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BoomerSperg1922 said:
People seemed surprised at the 2 day plea deal for what was basically aggravated assault on another forum I browse, but I wasn't.

Someone a friend of mine knows pleaded guilty to manslaughter after murdering a guy over nothing (booze) and they let him plea down to voluntary manslaughter. He served 6 years for pointlessly murdering another person.
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The cynical person in me thinks that a lot of plea deals are just to save the state money instead of going to trial. Fuck justice.
 
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Cat Menagerie said:
JFC what is it with you people and anal rape? Can't even go a page without someone bringing it up.
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It's called mutt's law
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AnOminous said:
Yes there is. He hasn't been sentenced yet and can plead to a sentence, rather than having a sentencing hearing.
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Except he has no more leverage. The whole reason they hand out light plea deals before trial is it saves the state a ton of money and guarantees the DAs can wrack up free guilty verdicts to pad their stats. They already got their guilty and they already wasted two full days in court. Why the fuck would they cut him a plea deal now?
 
Cat Attack said:
They already got their guilty and they already wasted two full days in court. Why the fuck would they cut him a plea deal now?
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So they don't have to waste another full day. He's probably too arrogant to take it even if they offer something almost as good as they did last time, though, which they'd have to be retarded to do, but they could. I have just so many fucking retards get away with slaps on the wrist after pulling stunts like this that I wouldn't rule it out.
 
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SPERGSTROM said:
The cynical person in me thinks that a lot of plea deals are just to save the state money instead of going to trial. Fuck justice.
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Sorta, but not exactly. It is to save money, but really, resources are more of a limiting factor. Realistically, they could never actually take every case to trial even if they wanted to; there aren't enough courts or prosecuting attorneys to do that. So instead, punishments after a guilty verdict are pretty much set up to be far harsher than the state actually thinks the crime warrants, so as to encourage plea deals. So they just threaten you with a year in jail when they'd really be fine with 90 days, then it seems like you got a bargain when they offer you 120. Some prosecutor Kiwis have talked about this at length in the Chris-Chan legal issues thread, if you want more info.
 
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SPERGSTROM said:
The cynical person in me thinks that a lot of plea deals are just to save the state money instead of going to trial. Fuck justice.
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That's not cynical, that's just a fact, although note above, resources are also a huge bottleneck. Most criminals are guilty anyway. The one real issue with plea deals that is bad, other than the occasional guilty person getting a ridiculously cushy deal, is when innocent people are faced with having to plead guilty to something or risk going away for life for some heinous crime they didn't commit.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's not cynical, that's just a fact, although note above, resources are also a huge bottleneck. Most criminals are guilty anyway. The one real issue with plea deals that is bad, other than the occasional guilty person getting a ridiculously cushy deal, is when innocent people are faced with having to plead guilty to something or risk going away for life for some heinous crime they didn't commit.
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Does pleading no contest work in cases like the latter?
Is there any reason why someone would plead guilty as a part of a plea deal instead of no contest?

I would think doing the former would disqualify you for options further down the line like appeals.
 
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