Bank Run Watch 2023 after Silicon Valley Bank shutdown - Over 97% of SVB's assets were not FDIC insured

The only way to win is not to play. No, really. Don't invest your money, don't put your money in banks, and don't pay your taxes. If the peasants did those three things, they win.

The sad truth however is they won't. I know what it takes to win and yet even I pay my taxes, keep my money in a bank, and invest what I have left. It can be a bit of a Black pill to see your chains and know you don't have the will to break them. Even though you could if you wanted too. Ever wondered why Hobos seem so cheerful without a care in the world? They are free. But I don't want to be a hobo.

We all must serve. It's the nature of human civilization. The only hope is the ones holding the chains are competent and not malevolent. Ideally. Barring that, I would take a competent but malevolent slave master over an incompetent but non malevolent one.

Sadly our masters are both incompetent AND malevolent. Such is the nature of our society right now.
 
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Anyone else seeing random internet posters do damage control? I've seen a few posts from 'financial (armchair) experts' that say a variation of "yes, things are bad, but it isn't doom like people think, but things are bad. We need to stay calm and not draw all of our money out, otherwise there will be no money to draw out"

It just seems strange that random people are telling other random people not to panic.

Take with a truck of salt and YMMV
I know I could just check his thread to get the answer but I’m wondering out loud:

Has Fatrick Tomlinson been making “ackshually as a sci fi “author” and porcine intellectual I can weigh in on this issue” tweets about the situation yet?
 
So now Credit Suisse has collapsed. I think the Swiss government said they will bail them out. I think the US government said they will as well. At least the branches here in the US. Rich people can't suffer the consequences of their stupid decisions and criminal behavior at all. But poor people have to.


People keep saying there is a lot of credit debt in the US population. That it's at an all time high. So I figured I would just point this out. Back in 2000's when Bush was in office he changed the bankruptcy laws and how debt is handled in the US. Filing for bankruptcy will no longer get you out from under the debt. You will still have to pay it off. I wonder if these people with credit card debt know this or remember that. I guess we will find out very soon.

Poor people used to go out and get credit cards. Like a credit card with a 10,000 or 20,000 limit. They would use the money to go on shopping sprees and buy things they couldn't afford to otherwise. They would max the card out and then file for bankruptcy. This was a popular thing with the middle class lower middle class and working poor. It might take them a decade to dig themselves out of the bankruptcy hole, but it was like getting a jump start for your life. They would give credit cards to anyone back then. Are you some 20-30 year old with no real money? Here have a credit card. Are you some struggling lower middle class Boomer in your 40's barely getting by? have a credit card with a 20,000 limit.

The US has a capitalist economy. That means it relies on people buying stuff made by rich people. Now back in the Boomers days you could get a car for a few thousand dollars. But over time things got more expensive so you needed credit to buy things. People couldn't afford to just buy them outright. They couldn't afford it. That's where you see the dependence on credit come in. When Bush changed the laws, I imagine the US economy took a big hit. I would think people would have become a little more cautious about taking on credit card debt. But with everything I am hearing I guess I am wrong.

Just a warning for anyone else. You can't file for bankruptcy to get rid of your credit card debt. You have to pay it off. Unless your rich then the government will bail you out.
The only way to win is not to play. No, really. Don't invest your money, don't put your money in banks, and don't pay your taxes. If the peasants did those three things, they win.

The sad truth however is they won't. I know what it takes to win and yet even I pay my taxes, keep my money in a bank, and invest what I have left. It can be a bit of a Black pill to see your chains and know you don't have the will to break them. Even though you could if you wanted too. Ever wondered why Hobos seem so cheerful without a care in the world? They are free. But I don't want to be a hobo.

We all must serve. It's the nature of human civilization. The only hope is the ones holding the chains are competent and not malevolent. Ideally. Barring that, I would take a competent but malevolent slave master over an incompetent but non malevolent one.

Sadly our masters are both incompetent AND malevolent. Such is the nature of our society right now.
When the game is rigged the only way to win is not to play at all.

There are plenty of people out there doing that. Probably not enough to bring the system down. Why do you think the economy is so terrible? I mean it's one of the reasons. People aren't working and spending money and if they do work their money goes to other things and not being good consumers. All the stores closing down isn't just a coincidence. The retail apocalypse wasn't because of online shopping.

It's not really incompetency. They know what they are doing they just don't care.
 
What’s a good mid to long term plan to park my USD? ($x,xxx to $xx,xxx)

I already own a few guns and I try to stockpile brass but I always end up with less FMJ than I’d like if I’m going to the range 1-2x/week. I’m curious about buying silver or gold but 1.) I’m sure the spot prices are jacked up this moment due to recent events 2.) I want to buy silver rounds online but I don’t want to get ripped off buying some silver plated zinc crap or something
 
What’s a good mid to long term plan to park my USD? ($x,xxx to $xx,xxx)

I already own a few guns and I try to stockpile brass but I always end up with less FMJ than I’d like if I’m going to the range 1-2x/week. I’m curious about buying silver or gold but 1.) I’m sure the spot prices are jacked up this moment due to recent events 2.) I want to buy silver rounds online but I don’t want to get ripped off buying some silver plated zinc crap or something
Buy pre-1965 silver coins aka junk silver. Nobody counterfeits those, they're still valid US currency (or whatever country they're from, I've got some old 80% Canadian silver), and they're usually about the same amount of silver for the value as a silver round. Sometimes even cheaper--according to findbullionprices.com (a good source for cataloging how expensive sites are selling you this shit for), the cheapest silver you could get that wasn't a fuckhuge bar of silver were the WWII-era nickels (at least on one site I bought from). Since they're only 35% silver, I guess nobody stashes them since they'd take up too much space, but they aren't much above the spot price of silver.
 
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Just a warning for anyone else. You can't file for bankruptcy to get rid of your credit card debt. You have to pay it off. Unless your rich then the government will bail you out.
lolwut? You absolutely can -- it's called Chapter 7, and it wipes out almost all debts besides student loans and a select few types of civil tort awards (i.e. civil judgments against you for shit you did deliberately).

The only "wrinkle" about Chapter 7 is you need to be pretty much broke to qualify. Homestead laws help protect your home during bankruptcy, though you still have to "reaffirm" with the mortgage lender (meaning you promise not to discharge the mortgage in the bankruptcy). If you're still making a car payment, you can also reaffirm with that lender to keep your car. Other than that, they can (technically speaking) demand you sell everything you own and give the court trustee the cash to get divided up among your creditors. FWIW, they rarely do that. Just look at DSP -- he blew away over $100k in debt even with "detractors" literally warning the trustee and his creditors that he was scamming the court.
 
I’m curious about buying silver or gold but 1.) I’m sure the spot prices are jacked up this moment due to recent events 2.) I want to buy silver rounds online but I don’t want to get ripped off buying some silver plated zinc crap or something
So we are in this moment again. Hello yar 2008, I didn't see you for couple of years.

In both cases learn how to indetify silver and gold - you will mneed:

- brain,
- Google,
- weighing scale - precision at least to 0,1 gram
- knowleadge what are you buying.

For example: if you want to buy Canadian Maple Leafs check on trusted site (or example: they producer or renowed distributor) what are they dimmensions and weight. When you guy who will wish to sell it check if all dimmensions and wieght are accurate with that stated by producer/renowed site.

Rest is science: if two objects of same dimmensions have same weight they are from same material or are fuckin good forfits (e.g: someone was able to make alloy from non-precious metalls which have exactly smae denisty that forfited metall). In case of small bullion coins/bars no one will give a fuck to make a good forfit, because this would be like stealing lolypops.

Buy pre-1965 silver coins aka junk silver.
Yes, but it is always a risk that you will buy a pre-1965 conterfitted money. Small, but bigger than anyone making good conterfits of 1oz Mapple Leafs.

Also: checking if they real is more time-consuming than checking bigger objects.

Also2: they small. Have fun to changing 2k todays bucks in that way (it will be, according to ngccoin.com at least 250 of silver half-dollars... or 500 quarters... or a fucktone of silver dimes). In case of standard 1oz silver bullion coins it will be less than 80 coins. Not a big deal with small thousands, but change numbers into 20k USD and you will have some logistic problem.

Also3: in case of maple leafs or whatever you can just order then from in needed quantity. You cannot be sure than in next month you will buy desired amount of pre-1965 coins.

Besides, they are some advantages in pre-1965's. In case of doom, when all soicety will collapse and population will return to trading with silver (yeah, whatever) it will be more handy to have smaller coins to made payments for bread (or fried rats, whatever, doom is doom).
 
I know I could just check his thread to get the answer but I’m wondering out loud:

Has Fatrick Tomlinson been making “ackshually as a sci fi “author” and porcine intellectual I can weigh in on this issue” tweets about the situation yet?

Sorry but I've never heard of that guy.
 
Don't invest your money, don't put your money in banks, and don't pay your taxes
niggers stay winning.

First sign of a society that won't make it is there's no incentive to not be a nigger. The question running through young adults minds right now, people in education or in the job market "why even bother "
 
How do I, a mere retard with low tens of thousands in an investment account, avoid getting fucked hard?
Review your investment plan. Is it correct for your goals and risk tolerance? If so, continue following the plan. If not, make the appropriate adjustments to your contributions, your stock allocation, and/or your bond allocation. Bogleheads.org has a good forum for investment questions. They do ask for a little more information up front. "Mere retard with low tens of thousands in an investment account" does not provide enough detail for actionable advice.
 
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US gonna get involved, but I don't think the Fed will end up giving funds. Would love to be a fly on the wall...
 
You give common man too much credit and the election riggers too little.

Crash the economy now, 12 months of pain, 6 months of jingling shiny keys and Biden wins re-election in a landslide. Remember, he has created more jobs than any time in American history, has the bestest, fasterest growingest ecomony in history of the solar system and is more popular than all the other leaders in the history of the galaxy.

goldfished-brained coomers, dickless trannies and fart-huffing faux-intellectuals will fall over one another to proclaim how Biden saved everyone from an economic disaster. Unlike literally hitler trump who would have killed everyone and taken their money.
Think not of key-jangling. Think of ballot farming, and Republican attempts to counter that with their own ballot farming operations (because hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander).

2024 is going to be a wild year, that's for sure.
People can go "Harrumph the US Dollar is the world reserve currency" all they want, but the French strike on the US Dollar in the 1970s causing the collapse of gold convertibility and the Nixon Shock shows that foreign nations, and even "Allies" will gladly cut down the US at the drop of a hat just for shit and giggles. China negotiating a peace treaty with Iran and Saudi Arabia and closing out the Yemen War should be a very ominous portent for anyone expecting the US to remain top dog. The Saudi aren't interesting in being an exclusive vassal to the US imperial system any longer and the petrodollar should be viewed at threat now. Changes like this happen unexpectedly and have monumental consequences, losing the petrodollar peg for the US Dollar would be such a devastating event that it would accelerate inflation into Weimar tier within a year or two as A LOT of nations would immediately jettison the US Dollar in favor of their regional suzerain like Russia, China, India or maybe Brazil, Mexico or Chile.
These currency are useless and failing because there is a limited use case for them. Breaking up the petrodollar, putting all currency on equal footing will mean they have use beyond just trade with their mediocre state. Kazakhstan has extremely limited trade with the US, but it has to keep a reserve of US Dollars, breaking up the petrodollar means they could dump that shit for currency they're more likely to trade with, like Rubles or Yuan. Same with Norway, their currency would benefit as they could focus more on the Euro and mandate their petroleum products be purchased in krone.

Its absolute hell for the US but beneficial for every other currency in the world.
People have been predicting the collapse of the US dollar at year X for decades now. What is never even asked (let alone answered) is what exactly is going to replace the dollar as the global reserve currency. A lack of a global reserve currency is going to severely complicate global finance and trade, and states like Russia, China, India, and Latin America have money that is even less valuable or stable than the US dollar. The US dollar is beloved by global financial institutions because of its convenience to hold, as opposed to the often (even more) obscurantist financial bullshit done by Russia, China, India, or Latin America. The destruction of the US dollar would require an entirely new global economic and financial system, such as how it replaced the UK pound sterling because of World War II and the subsequent economic restructuring of the world, and that simply hasn't happened yet.

I'll believe that global "de-dollarization" is happening when world banks (or big corporations) start trading primarily in yuans or rubles instead of dollars. Otherwise, America has at least a full generation to dither and "experiment" with the US dollar.
 
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fun times ahead
The conspiracy theory that Russia is the villain in the WEF punch and Judy show, used to distract from the global introduction of CBDC seems more true now.
 
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Please help me OBI- one your my only hope!!!
A coalition of midsize U.S. banks, Mid-Size Bank Coalition of America (MBCA), asked regulators to extend FDIC insurance to all deposits for the next two years, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday citing an MBCA letter to regulators.
A coalition of midsize US banks asked federal regulators to extend FDIC insurance to all deposits for the next two years, arguing the guarantee is needed to avoid a wider run on the banks.

“Doing so will immediately halt the exodus of deposits from smaller banks, stabilize the banking sector and greatly reduce chances of more bank failures,” the Mid-Size Bank Coalition of America said in a letter to regulators seen by Bloomberg News.

The collapse this month of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank prompted a flood of deposits out of regional lenders and into the nation’s largest banks, including JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America Corp. Customers spooked by the bank failures were taking refuge in firms seen as too big to fail.

“Notwithstanding the overall health and safety of the banking industry, confidence has been eroded in all but the largest banks,” the group said in the letter. “Confidence in our banking system as a whole must be immediately restored,” it said, adding that the deposit flight would accelerate should another bank fail.

The expanded insurance program should be paid for by the banks themselves by increasing the deposit-insurance assessment on lenders that choose to participate in increased coverage, the group proposed.

The MBCA’s letter was sent to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the Comptroller of the Currency, the Federal Reserve and Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.

MBCA members include banks with assets of as much as $100 billion. There are at least 110 members of the coalition.

“It is imperative we restore confidence among depositors before another bank fails, avoiding panic and a further crisis,” the organization wrote. “While the cost of deposit insurance is not insignificant, the likelihood of it being needed is much, much smaller should all deposits be temporarily insured.”

Brent Tjarks, a representative for MBCA, declined to comment.
 
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