Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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Ended up watching this, so a short review

Is a whole part about Barbie setting unrealistic beauty standards yet one of the Barbies is a troon and the other is a really obese woman, who would still be ugly if she lost all the fat. On top of that, all the Kens are fit, which makes that choice even worse. Whether I agree or not with the film's message is one thing, but at least make them make sense within the movie's own logic.

The biggest issue story-wise with the movie is the plot with the mother and her daughter, which really isn't developed well at all. No reason is given for why the daughter changed so much, not even general teenage angst. By the time it comes for the mother and daughter's relationship to repair it kind of just happens.

With that said I didn't hate the movie. It clearly has a creative vision which is rare for a studio movie of this size especially something aimed at women. Barbieland was an interesting location and clearly a lot of care was put into the design rather than it being a CGI mess greenscreen location.

Margot Robbie was well suited to the role, and Ryan Gossling as Ken was a joy and stole every scene he was in. The comedy overall wasn't bad, with few bad jokes there but most of the comedy with Ryan Gossling's Ken I did laugh at.

5/10, not soulless like the latest Charlie's Angel, but not flawless as some people are making it out to be.
 
I still think Oceans 8, Tomb Raider 2018, Charlie's Angels 2019, Mulan 2020 and Ghostbusters 2016 (among others) are still much, much worse
 
BaskingBarracuda said:
Saw a clip of the America Ferrera monologue on Instagram and based on the reactions to it it seems it’s the I Have A Dream speech for middle class mommy bloggers.
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I saw Ferrera in Superstore and thought her character was just transplanted from that show to this movie. Like nothing changed. Like that's who she really is. I was like "Oh hey Amy's here!"
 
Omen_Sulk said:
I saw Ferrera in Superstore and thought her character was just transplanted from that show to this movie. Like nothing changed. Like that's who she really is. I was like "Oh hey Amy's here!"
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I'll tell you who she really is, she's nothing. She's someone who exists but nobody cares that she exists because she is, well, nobody. That, and she's also boring, predictable, and lifeless. I need to take myself back to 2005 when she was in The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, and I've noticed how boring, predictable and lifeless she was and looking at other things she's in, she has not changed for the past 18 years.
 
TVBForever said:
I'll tell you who she really is, she's nothing. She's someone who exists but nobody cares that she exists because she is, well, nobody. That, and she's also boring, predictable, and lifeless. I need to take myself back to 2005 when she was in The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, and I've noticed how boring, predictable and lifeless she was and looking at other things she's in, she has not changed for the past 18 years.
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Is it ironic the only role America Ferrera will be remembered for is voicing a blonde hair, blue eyed Viking?
 
Finally watched this with my wife on HBO. Clocked the troon instantly, didn't read any of the coverage about the faggot Heri Nef, and my wife didn't believe me at first.

My troondar remains undefeated.

Movie was alright. Pandering but entertaining at times. I'm a huge mark for Ryan Gosling.
 
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Betonhaus said:
I've talked to some people who described it as a social commentary about social justice going to far, and is framed so the official antagonist of the series is the ones very clearly in the right. I'm definitely intrigued, but my partner doesn't want to watch it as he's supporting the writer's strike bullshit so i'll have to watch it on my own some time.
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I watched it and that's what I got out of it. It feels like a fever dream. Has the shitty, wordy, academicky dialogue of a lot of hack Hollywood, but it's delivered in such a bizarre way with such a schizo tone that it feels intentional. There is nothing, NOTHING, in this movie for a child to latch onto, but there is tons to keep an adult audience on their seat wondering where it's going.

It was super lazy of them not showing the Kens "brainwashing" the Barbies. It does feel like they really did just come in, give the Barbies the lives of silly guidance and lack of responsibility they wanted, and the shrew-Barbies fucked it up by actually brainwashing them with their rant. (Based message. Note: 99% of the shit in the shrew's rant was self-inflicted.)

I may be giving them too much credit, but I think this was a stealth parody in the same way that Angry Birds might have been a stealth allegory for Muslim immigration.

This scene is badass:
 
Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
I watched it and that's what I got out of it. It feels like a fever dream. Has the shitty, wordy, academicky dialogue of a lot of hack Hollywood, but it's delivered in such a bizarre way with such a schizo tone that it feels intentional. There is nothing, NOTHING, in this movie for a child to latch onto, but there is tons to keep an adult audience on their seat wondering where it's going.

It was super lazy of them not showing the Kens "brainwashing" the Barbies. It does feel like they really did just come in, give the Barbies the lives of silly guidance and lack of responsibility they wanted, and the shrew-Barbies fucked it up by actually brainwashing them with their rant. (Based message. Note: 99% of the shit in the shrew's rant was self-inflicted.)

I may be giving them too much credit, but I think this was a stealth parody in the same way that Angry Birds might have been a stealth allegory for Muslim immigration.

This scene is badass:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N0Sd4x3hClo
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Ken is unironically the most literally me Ryan Gosling character of all time.

 
Ken is a bro. Ken may be metro as hell but I feel like he'd be genuinely fun to be around.

ToddleDoddle said:
Then there is the joke at the end where a Ken asks if Kens can have one member on the Supreme Court and President Barbie says maybe a lower circuit one. Obviously this is a joke meant to reflect the real world, but it doesn't work when 4/9 current supreme court justices are women.
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Or when the Mattel board is 100% men as a joke, while corporate boards, including Mattel, are full of women and have been for a long time.
 
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