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Unarmed Gunman said:
I think a lot of people misunderstood what Detroit was looking for. It wasn't just the best "package of prospects", what they wanted was a talented arm that could come up this year if they happen to stay in the hunt, and a top outfield prospect since that is where their system was weakest. Milwaukee has great infield prospects, but Detroit is already loaded there. After calling up Max Clark they basically had no outfielders left on the farm, so going after Hope was logical.
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There's also the Braves who have a multitude of arms, but after watching how AA handled this year, I doubt he even attempted to make a move on Skubal.
 
#FF0000 said:
It might be collusion on the part of MLB owners to create more fan support for a salary cap.
Honestly I'm all for the salary cap. I wanna see more teams play like the Brewers. Spend smarter, not harder.
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Wasn't that supposed to happen last year if the Dodgers swept the World Series?

Instead, they put on one of the most exciting WS of the century. Funny how thst works.
 
I need a Jomboy explanation for what the absolute fuck just happened in Toronto. From my understanding the final ruling was bullshit.
No I'm not gonna try and describe what happened. I barely understand any of it. Even the umps didn't know what the fuck happened.
 
#FF0000 said:
I need a Jomboy explanation for what the absolute fuck just happened in Toronto. From my understanding the final ruling was bullshit.
No I'm not gonna try and describe what happened. I barely understand any of it. Even the umps didn't know what the fuck happened.
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lol - both runners forgot how many outs there were. They had to have thought the catch in CF was the 3rd out or they'd have held to tag. That he just trotted home is a secondary consideration - "Hey, maybe he'll drop it, and it's a free run." The announcers are correct. By failing to tag up, the runner at 3rd is automatically out by touching home plate out of order. However, a more correct call for out #3 is probably the runner at 1B who also didn't tag up touching 2B out of order before then.

I think that's what the umpire was trying (and failing) to explain: the "timing" part of the play is which runner needed to be called out first. At that point, it's kinda academic, since they're both out. No real need to send it to New York. Just call them out at both bases and let the scorer figure out which one to write down as official.

EDIT: Actually, thinking on this further, it was probably just the runner at 3B who forgot the number of outs in the middle of the play. The baserunning play on an iffy deep fly ball like that is to go halfway. If the fielder misses or drops it, keep going. The runner at 3B sees the catch, thinks it's out #3, and continues on to home. The runner at 1B, already halfway to 2B, takes his cue from watching the lead runner. "Oh - must have been dropped out there." Then he accelerates to try and get the extra 90 on the throw in. That entire play had to confuse the hell out of the 3B coach and the trail runner. Runner is like "What do I do? Slide? Stay up?" while the coach is staring at the idiot who decided just keep trotting home because why the hell not? The dugout's that direction anyway.
 
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Major Filth said:
lol - both runners forgot how many outs there were. They had to have thought the catch in CF was the 3rd out or they'd have held to tag. That he just trotted home is a secondary consideration - "Hey, maybe he'll drop it, and it's a free run." The announcers are correct. By failing to tag up, the runner at 3rd is automatically out by touching home plate out of order. However, a more correct call for out #3 is probably the runner at 1B who also didn't tag up touching 2B out of order before then.

I think that's what the umpire was trying (and failing) to explain: the "timing" part of the play is which runner needed to be called out first. At that point, it's kinda academic, since they're both out. No real need to send it to New York. Just call them out at both bases and let the scorer figure out which one to write down as official.

EDIT: Actually, thinking on this further, it was probably just the runner at 3B who forgot the number of outs. The baserunning play on an iffy deep fly ball like that is to go halfway. If the fielder misses or drops it, keep going. The runner at 3B sees the catch, thinks it's out #3, and continues on to home. The runner at 1B, already halfway 2B, takes his cue from watching the lead runner. "Oh - must have been dropped out there." Then he accelerates to try and get the extra 90 on the throw in. That entire play had to confuse the hell out of the 3B coach and the trail runner. Runner is like "What do I do? Slide? Stay up?" while the coach is staring at the idiot who decided just keep trotting home because why the hell not? The dugout's that direction anyway.
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Scoreboard showed 2 outs accidentally when there was 1 out. Everyone thought there were 2 outs, then the Jays realized there was only one so they got the runner out at first base (since he didn't tag), but didn't get the out at third base (where the runner also didn't tag)
Because the Jays didn't appeal to third base that the runner didn't tag (because they COULDN'T appeal since they were waved off the field by the umps, according to Max Scherzer), and they didn't get the out at third, apparently that means the runner still scores at home despite not tagging up.
So the Red Sox, because they couldn't keep track of how many outs there were (which is the responsibility of the players/umps/coaches according to the rulebook and NOT to rely on the scoreboard), got a free run. It's fucking stupid.
Jays won anyways but it should've been 2-0 instead of 2-1.
 
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So the Red Sox, because they couldn't keep track of how many outs there were (which is the responsibility of the players/umps/coaches according to the rulebook and NOT to rely on the scoreboard), got a free run. It's fucking stupid.
Jays won anyways but it should've been 2-0 instead of 2-1.
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Oh, what a clusterfuck. Yeah - you have fucking base coaches right there who are supposed to tell the runners "Hey - remember. Just one out here." On defense, you should have at least your CF and C holding up 1 finger to remind everyone how many outs there are. When I umpire, I don't have a scoreboard, so I would also be holding up a single finger to remind the field and the dugouts how many outs there are. This is Little League shit, guys.
 
Major Filth said:
Oh, what a clusterfuck. Yeah - you have fucking base coaches right there who are supposed to tell the runners "Hey - remember. Just one out here." On defense, you should have at least your CF and C holding up 1 finger to remind everyone how many outs there are. When I umpire, I don't have a scoreboard, so I would also be holding up a single finger to remind the field and the dugouts how many outs there are. This is Little League shit, guys.
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#FF0000 said:
Scoreboard showed 2 outs accidentally when there was 1 out.
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Holy shit apparently the scoreboard is ran by MLB itself and not Blue Jays/Rogers Center staff so the Blue Jays genuinely did nothing wrong
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This is some serious bullshit lmao
 
Walt Weiss is a god awful head coach. This bullpen in Atlanta is going to be exhausted if he keeps running them out there every night over and over because he refuses to let any pitcher go 7 or more innings. Chris Sale hasn't even done it in months and the last two seasons he was going 7+ multiple times a month. I'm expected to think our starters can get through the playoffs when he won't even let them attempt a 7th inning? Meanwhile the bullpen blows multiple leads because they're working like they're the only pitchers on the team because of bad starter management.
 
Trombonista said:
Alex Bregman hit three home runs tonight as the Cubs crushed the Nats 12-5! I got to hear the third one on my way home from work.
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Considering his power numbers this season, that's emphatically regressing to the mean. Especially in that cavern of a park. It takes a bit to poke just one out of there.

Also, PCA got his 27th homer. 3 away from a 30/30 season. With 41 left to play.

The Cubs are now only 3 off the lead for top spot in the NL with 7 left to play against the league-leading Brewers. Those games should be pure dynamite.
 
Major Filth said:
Considering his power numbers this season, that's emphatically regressing to the mean. Especially in that cavern of a park. It takes a bit to poke just one out of there.

Also, PCA got his 27th homer. 3 away from a 30/30 season. With 41 left to play.

The Cubs are now only 3 off the lead for top spot in the NL with 7 left to play against the league-leading Brewers. Those games should be pure dynamite.
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Early in the season, I was convinced that the Cubs were World Series contenders. The slump from a couple of months ago kind of dashes those hopes, especially with the state of our pitching and injuries. But ever since the trade deadline I'm absolutely fully back believing that this is a World Series caliber team, in spite of the bullpen.
 
It's pretty much agreed that a NL team is winning the World Series, yeah? The AL is pretty damn weak. The Rays are very good and I could see them making it there, or maybe the Yankees, but I wouldn't say they're on the same level as the Dodgers, Brewers, Braves or Cubs.
 
Major Filth said:
Considering his power numbers this season, that's emphatically regressing to the mean. Especially in that cavern of a park. It takes a bit to poke just one out of there.

Also, PCA got his 27th homer. 3 away from a 30/30 season. With 41 left to play.

The Cubs are now only 3 off the lead for top spot in the NL with 7 left to play against the league-leading Brewers. Those games should be pure dynamite.
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Here's hoping the Cubs win the NL Central.
 
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