Battletech - Also known as Trannytech

What a fucking terrible idea. Did you people see that they have ~more ideas~ for ~more AUs~? So far there'll be a raygun gothic one and an anime one judging from the leaked sketches. I was never one for cardslop, but one can't help but feel really bad for the fans of MTG what with its descent into being one of those hyper-autistic multiverse megacrossover things that used to only live on the internet. Can't wait to see it happen to BT.
 
The damage control on the official forums is:

- The AU project (as Bulk Bogan said) will be a in theory a series of one-offs. They were VERY INSISTENT that it did not steal resources from any ongoing project and everyone involved was doing nothing and they did it in the background: literal response from "where are the other things you delayed" from a Line Developer is "You would get nothing instead, others who do find this interesting and wish to purchase it would get nothing instead, and the team that worked on it would have been doing nothing at the time instead. That’s all a lose-lose."

And then he told he would stop answering questions regarding resource allocation. Up to the reader to decide if they're lying through their teeth now that the fan response has been lukewarm at best or if it's the truth. If it's the truth working at CGL must be nice, you can "do nothing" while your Kickstarter flounders and your products are late. Fascinating.

- All the delays are caused by a complete focus on Battletech Aces, a solo-play focused system for Alpha Strike set during the IlClan era. Again, to the reader to judge if this is worth delays on other core products.

That said, better gear up. Anyone know good services for 3d printing? CGL doesn't want my money because they need to do shit no one plays, so I need to plan forward.
 
You don't understand we definitely need to work on a flow chart play sheet for sad alpha strike players with no one to play with. Maybe I'm spoiled but honestly my local scene is really strong and gathering new players even.
 
Swiss46 said:
You don't understand we definitely need to work on a flow chart play sheet for sad alpha strike players with no one to play with.
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It's a bet. Someone's dream was always to kill off Classic Btech for several reasons (it's clunky, slow, old in design and not newbie friendly) and they tried to kill it off several times in the last two decades. It keeps coming back like a roach.

Alpha Strike is more ..... popular with the fruity audience (remember that the Sarna guys do not play Classic and barely understand it) and solo-play can be used as cooperative play instead of the aggressive and heteronormative standard play. There's for sure a plan behind it, the only thing I'm certain is that I'm not the target audience for that.

That said, I never fully appreciated how much useless crap CGL throws out. Succession Wars tabletop game, Leviathan, minigames and now AUs.... for a company that can barely manage a basic output it's kind of crazy.
 
RSU 1741 said:
That said, I never fully appreciated how much useless crap CGL throws out. Succession Wars tabletop game, Leviathan, minigames and now AUs.... for a company that can barely manage a basic output it's kind of crazy.
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For all the crap they've pushed out over the years I'm surprised there hasn't been a CBT 2.0 trying to rebalance the game, Total Warfare was released in 2006 and for comparison 40k has had 6 different rulebook editions since then.
 
Moja Zemlja said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been a CBT 2.0 trying to rebalance the game, Total Warfare was released in 2006 and for comparison 40k has had 6 different rulebook editions since then.
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Battletech isn't perfect and breaks down in edge cases but it's a reliable system that has survived 40 years of various people piling new equipment and rules onto it. What would a fundamental rework of battletech even accomplish? Most rule changes that people want are commonly accepted homebrews that even get put into tournaments so maybe making those codified?
 
Moja Zemlja said:
40k has had 6 different rulebook editions since then.
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40k has new editions (much like D&D) not to update the system and make it better but to keep the consumer cycle going. The fact that the vast majority of 40 years of content is still available and compatible would be nothing short of endless horror for GW designers, imagine not being able to force people to buy the new "meta unit" or to cripple randomly old units. Btech pseudo-simulative approach runs counter to that, you can't randomly "nerf" Clan mechs. This causes problems in game balance (optimal play is a solved problem in Battletech) but forces players to have a more.... flexible, pseudo-historical mode of play "I know that my Cyclops isn't optimal or a good Mech, but i'll try to make it work in my list".

I do not doubt that if they could and they could endure the fan outrage they would do something similar to GW. Clicktech was a thing, after all.
 
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Also I'm tired of the eternal 3025-3050/3025-3050 repeat ad nauseam. Mechwarrior 4 was a huge success and it was Civil War, no one complained back then.
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MW4 was my first real exposure to BattleTech and I loved the shit that went down there, and after getting into the Succession Wars stuff I actually appreciated it more since the Clans added a whole new layer of intrigue and conflict, and even in IS-on-IS warfare you have a lot more choices for 'Mechs and weapons. It was arguably peak BattleTech.

EDIT: Was about to ask what the Shadowrun crossover thing was, but I think I found it in the Vault torrent I've got saved. Eighth World Best Ever right, or is there more?
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God, its great to see a sense of humor like that, especially these days. And it gets even better on the next page, holy shit.
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
For all the crap they've pushed out over the years I'm surprised there hasn't been a CBT 2.0 trying to rebalance the game, Total Warfare was released in 2006 and for comparison 40k has had 6 different rulebook editions since then.
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Every time it's been mentioned the fanbase has pushed back in such a way that the developers had to back off.

I've said for a long time that Herb Beas was not only a poor line developer but really hurt the game in the long term with his "vision" of what BT should be. He wanted to ditch the game as it was in favor of something like Alpha Strike. He wanted rid of warships. He wanted rid of the whole Houses and Clans dynamics in favor of some merged version where the Clans took Terra and then the rest of the IS and melded version of the two existed. He wanted rid of the Homeworld Clans and ComStar and WoB and a bunch of small factions. In the end everything he wanted happened, in no small part because the people who were left at CGL were his friends who no doubt think the same way. Add in the troonsquad taking over so much of the official and semi-official social media and theirs is the only voices tolerated much less heard.

Video Games will only draw in so many new players before they move on to something else to do. It's amazing BT has lasted as long as it has, especially considering FASA shuttering, the great unknown surrounding the Jihad and ClickyTech and how long it took WK to get up and running, even with so many of the same people involved as they had at FASA, and how CGL has been mismanaged right from the start (not to mention Coleman's Porch). And the original fanbase is aging out and dying since we're all Gen Xers or older. Frankly, I'd be shocked if the tabletop game still exists by the end of the decade.
 
Snekposter said:
MW4 was my first real exposure to BattleTech and I loved the shit that went down there, and after getting into the Succession Wars stuff I actually appreciated it more since the Clans added a whole new layer of intrigue and conflict, and even in IS-on-IS warfare you have a lot more choices for 'Mechs and weapons. It was arguably peaBattleTech.

EDIT: Was about to ask what the Shadowrun crossover thing was, but I think I found it in the Vault torrent I've got saved. Eighth World Best Ever right, or is there more?
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God, its great to see a sense of humor like that, especially these days. And it gets even better on the next page, holy shit.
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Also going to throw it out there, they can't do basic math either.

An age in Shadowrun is roughly ~5000 years. So the Sixth World would go from 2012-7012. The entirety of battletech history is still firmly in the Sixth World, not the Eighth.
 
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S.C Malthus said:
Also going to throw it out there, they can't do basic math either.

An age in Shadowrun is roughly ~5000 years. So the Sixth World would go from 2012-7012. The entirety of battletech history is still firmly in the Sixth World, not the Eighth.
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Boo, quit being logical, not when there's kickass art like this:
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Yes, it looks like something a high schooler sketched while bored, but fuck you, its a troll fighting an Elemental in close combat.
 
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Mage Leader got his hands on a copy of the book

It's not a joke, it's not a one off and it's only just starting. Oh yah the guy that made this is the same guy who made the Jihad era expansion. So I guess the rumours that he was fired was just wrong and he's been working on this for the last year. Yea! That massive woke wanker is still employed by CGL and still doing what ever he can to "stick it to the chuds". I guess him destroying BTech is his way to lash back at his haters and all his little woke buddies at CGL are all to happy to help him out.

Things to note:

The mech's are "alive"
Your a furry
and Hell is real

Oy-vey!


Who wants to bet a GW lawsuit?
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
Mage Leader got his hands on a copy of the book
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just watched it as well
I'm am a bit baffled with how out of touch their writing team is
Arguably the last good writing that Battletech had was clan invasion that was written like what 20 years ago?
and now this? atlas with the party hat, and space elephants with SRMs on its back
 
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I guess CGL has now just released this as a PDF on their Facebook page if you want to see it for yourself. I grabbed a copy and while some of the art is neat the rest is pure 40K Grimderp dumbed down for kiddies.

Probably trying to get ahead of the leaks but like always they are way to late. Folks in the hobby are already tearing it apart but don't mention it on Reddit in any unflattering way or your account will be banned, just a FYI
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
It's not a joke, it's not a one off and it's only just starting. Oh yah the guy that made this is the same guy who made the Jihad era expansion. So I guess the rumours that he was fired was just wrong and he's been working on this for the last year. Yea! That massive woke wanker is still employed by CGL and still doing what ever he can to "stick it to the chuds". I guess him destroying BTech is his way to lash back at his haters and all his little woke buddies at CGL are all to happy to help him out.
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Which one? Ben Rome? He did the Wars of Reaving stuff off the top of my head.
 
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