Bentley Emails: December 2013 - Updated/Fixed

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butt in trouble said:
Chris' main problem is that he always he always comes off as aggressive and mean-spirited without even trying...
He literally thinks that because bad things have happened to him before it's impossible for him to ever be the bad guy.
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That's about where I stop, before even coming to the existential "fate vs. free will" woo-woo... Regardless of where he picked it up - Chris is an a-hole. He's a giant a-hole to people he knows. He's pretty much a giant a-hole to everyone. He's supposed to be having a casual chat with a friend, and he just can't resist breaking into these hate-ridden diatribes about homos, trolls, and the like.

Unless he has some kind of shock collar that goes off every time he's polite, there's really nobody or nothing else - besides Christian Weston Chandler - to blame for him being such a massive a-hole to everyone. As such, I'm pretty much unwilling to really give him any benefit of the doubt, and just assume he'd be an a-hole even if everything always went his way.
 
Tubular Monkey said:
I'm not talking about polishing a turd. I'm talking about having realistic goals and priorities. This isn't a black and white issue. There is a huge gray area between sitting in his goblin hole watching cartoons, and marrying a super model who will do all of the work for him and give him sex time.
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Absolutely this.
Nobody's denying that life's given Chris a few lemons, but he definitely could be doing a lot better than being a miserable troglodyte with nothing to look forward to except the next episode of MLP. Ultimately, Chris has made choices, and those choices have landed him where he is today.

One thing I consider to have been a major crossroads in his life, was his time at The Gameplace. For the first time he was amongst others who shared his interests and accepted his company and he had a genuine friend in Megan. This could have been an immense character building time for him, but he ignored all the warnings for his bad behaviour and eventually got ejected.
 
LightningStrikes said:
Chris is an a-hole. He's a giant a-hole to people he knows. He's pretty much a giant a-hole to everyone. He's supposed to be having a casual chat with a friend, and he just can't resist breaking into these hate-ridden diatribes about homos, trolls, and the like.
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I can't really disagree with you here, I'd just like to point out that Chris isn't just some a-hole - he's an unintentional a-hole.
Just like somebody who is unintentionally funny and gets confused and offended when people start laughing at him and they can't see why, Chris doesn't understand peoples' reaction whenever he behaves indecently.

Remember, when it comes to human interaction, he has absolutely no training at all. He has spent the last 15 years with two idiotic geriatrics who thought it's totally normal and appropriate to spout homophobic, racist and downright paranoid nonsense. And those bumsmurfs were pretty much his only human interaction.

So there: Chris thinks his behaviour is acceptable and normal because he doesn't know any better. To any socially active human in the US, his behaviour is abysmal, to him, it just isn't.
 
P-Logic said:
Does he have a girlfriend? Because that is the only thing Chris wants.

Presumably that guy with Down Syndrome likes helping people and generally feeling useful. Chris doesn't. Those just aren't his values. Even if Chris forced himself to be a part of the community like the DS guy, he'd still be miserable.

Maybe Chris would be better off with Down Syndrome. His additional IQ points just seem to get him into trouble, and curse him with the awareness of just how badly off he is.
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I think it's more than that. It's very obvious that Chris is terrified at the prospect of having to fend for himself after Barb dies. He doesn't want a girlfriend, he's looking for a replacement Barb: as someone speculated earlier, I don't even think sex really factors in here.

Chris is capable of making friends, he proved this with the Wallflower: the problem is that he tried to rush her, pressuring her to commit to him and basically planning out her social activities under the assumption that she'd just go along with it.

The Wallflower seemed to genuinely like Chris, but he ruined it. They'd probably still be friends if Chris had behaved himself better.

If Chris could apply what he learned, he could most definitely have friends, however, his increasing desperation coupled with his inability to learn from his past mistakes, make this unlikely.
 
Thetan said:
Chris is capable of making friends, he proved this with the Wallflower: the problem is that he tried to rush her, pressuring her to commit to him and basically planning out her social activities under the assumption that she'd just go along with it.
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Sorry for being very cynical about Chris, but I think that he went along with the friendship thing with Wallflower only as a means to an end. I don't think Chris gives a damn about friendship with women. He does what he thinks he's supposed to do, because he thinks then they'll realize what an emotionally good and empathetic person he is, and then they'll agree to becoming his real-life blow up doll. Chris couldn't care less about the feelings of other people.
 
Tubular Monkey said:
I don't think Chris gives a damn about friendship with women. He does what he thinks he's supposed to do, because he thinks then they'll realize what an emotionally good and empathetic person he is, and then they'll agree to becoming his real-life blow up doll.
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I have to agree and the most striking evidence that this statement is true is the fact that Chris has never wanted to associate with anyone who isn't a possible sweetheart for him. In fact, unless you're possible scissor-fodder, Chris usually will think of you as a deeply flawed and depraved person simply because you can't offer him sex. When it became obvious that Megan never interested in him at all, Chris decided she was "evil" and deserved to be beaten up. When The Wallflower broke off contact with Chris because he jumped to the conclusion they were a couple Chris actually expected her to apologize to him...because she wouldn't have sex with him. And MALES cannot offer Chris sex because Chris is STRAIGHT or a Lesbian soul or whatever his latest fetish is so therefore Chris sees no reason to even entertain the idea that he could be friends with a male.
TL;DR You're not a person to Chris unless you're attractive and have a china.
 
I feel that his biggest issue with potential friends or even girlfriends is that it's either his way or no way. He gets ideas as to how a given situation will go, and then refuses to compromise because he's set his heart onto a specific outcome.
Then when he does end up compromising, he'll believe that he's made an epic sacrifice, when it's really just the bread and butter of any healthy relationship, romantic or otherwise.
 
Bernd Lauert said:
I can't really disagree with you here, I'd just like to point out that Chris isn't just some a-hole - he's an unintentional a-hole.
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Maybe Chris doesn't often seek to cause pain to others, but there are two types of unintentional a-holes. One type hurts people sometimes because they are sarcastic or have no filter or something, but feel bad when they do it. The second type just doesn't give a shit about anyone else. Whether they hurt someone or not doesn't really make a difference, they just do and say what they want or take the path of least resistance. The first type is much more excusable than the second, and Chris is definitely the second.
Thetan said:
Chris is capable of making friends, he proved this with the Wallflower: the problem is that he tried to rush her, pressuring her to commit to him and basically planning out her social activities under the assumption that she'd just go along with it.

The Wallflower seemed to genuinely like Chris, but he ruined it. They'd probably still be friends if Chris had behaved himself better.

If Chris could apply what he learned, he could most definitely have friends, however, his increasing desperation coupled with his inability to learn from his past mistakes, make this unlikely.
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I can't argue with the truth in that. But based on reading and watching Chris interactions with other potential friends, I think that the Wallflower's willingness to befriend him can be chalked up to either oddity, loneliness, or generosity on her part. Even if Chris was willing never to put pressure on girls for relationships, I think the proportion of people who would honestly be willing to spend time with him regularly because they genuinely enjoy his company is pretty small.
 
timtommy said:
I can't argue with the truth in that. But based on reading and watching Chris interactions with other potential friends, I think that the Wallflower's willingness to befriend him can be chalked up to either oddity, loneliness, or generosity on her part. Even if Chris was willing never to put pressure on girls for relationships, I think the proportion of people who would honestly be willing to spend time with him regularly because they genuinely enjoy his company is pretty small.
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From what I understand of the Wallflower, she's a weird duck herself. She probably has the same or almost as much trouble making real life friends as Chris.
 
timtommy said:
Even if Chris was willing never to put pressure on girls for relationships, I think the proportion of people who would honestly be willing to spend time with him regularly because they genuinely enjoy his company is pretty small.
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if he never tried to coerce girls into being his new mommy (and he always tries, even when he says he won't), he could get real-people friends. they'd be pity friends, probably, but it's not as though he'd be able to tell. just having a regular, nonsexual IRL friendship would probably chill him out a lot. it's just a bummer he ruins his chances by refusing to be friends with men and refusing to accept when a woman is not romantically interested in him
 
Kosher Dill said:
Apparently he's had them in the post-Classic era - even with men. None seem to have lasted though.
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Probably two reasons behind that:

1. Chris is undoubtedly one of the most boring people when he's not being crazy. Everyone who's dealt with him on a regular basis says the same thing: he's boring as shit 90% of the time.

2. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority or even all of his existing male friends are trolls by this point. I can't point to any known females who aren't except Anna, and she's part of the internet drama herself.
 
TaterBot said:
@Thetan you've shown emails from Rebekah from back to Sept 28, 2013, but obviously she and Chris had been talking before that. How long exactly had she been in contact with him before then?
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There are gaps. I'm looking to fill them in. I still have a lot of files to go through. Unfortunately, the account that the emails came from is deleted, so I'm out of luck there. I can tell you though that Rebeckah started talking to Chris in September 2013, I just don't remember the exact date.
 
Tragi-Chan said:
That part of the emails confuses me a little. He complains that no one will leave him alone, and then he complains that he's being ignored all the time. What is it he actually wants? Is he expecting the world to be like some cornball movie where the townspeople all greet him cheerfully while he waddles around on his daily errands? Is he angry because women aren't polite enough to pretend they find him attractive in the street?
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He expects people to rush up and start praising him, tell him he is perfect in every way, and if female to offer him immediate sex. He believes he should be the focus of everyone's attention at all times, and they should think only of how to better serve him.

Alec Benson Leary said:
The most ridiculous thing is, Chris I'd trying to argue that he doesn't have the power to not assault people.

I was going to say he believes that, but I think deep down he knows this is just an excuse.
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I'd have to disagree. To Chris the idea that he is responsible for his actions is laughable. He is a helpless victim of trolls and cyber-bullies who force him to act out...unless that would be inconvenient at the moment.

Cotton Puddings said:
if he never tried to coerce girls into being his new mommy (and he always tries, even when he says he won't), he could get real-people friends. they'd be pity friends, probably, but it's not as though he'd be able to tell. just having a regular, nonsexual IRL friendship would probably chill him out a lot. it's just a bummer he ruins his chances by refusing to be friends with men and refusing to accept when a woman is not romantically interested in him
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I have to disagree here as well. Chris' idea of friendship is you being his servant and asspatter, and if female giving him sex on command. The thought that maybe you should get something out of it just doesn't register with him. So no, he doesn't want friends so much as slaves and worshipers.
 
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