Better Call Saul

I think Kim is in on one last scam to get him back his license but then he's on his own and they're splitsville.

I wonder how Gus murders Lalo. Or if Nacho does it.
 
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AnOminous said:
I think Kim is in on one last scam to get him back his license but then he's on his own and they're splitsville.

I wonder how Gus murders Lalo. Or if Nacho does it.
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I'm wondering if Kim does Jimmy the last solid, but the Lubbock caper catches up to her, and she gets buttfucked hard.
Lalo survives, Saul asks if Jesse and Walt are sent by him during their intimidation attempt. I think Gus forces Nacho to try, but he fails. Jimmy is somehow involved.
 
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I'm skeptical of anyone we didn't see in BB being alive. There's no reason to think Saul would be in the loop if he gets killed, although the question is whether he gets taken out quickly or is the major antagonist of the next season. Saul obviously knows who he is by the events of BB. Also I'm wondering who on the outside helped Werner escape and/or kidnapped him. It seems someone had to have been on the outside to help disabling the cameras for the relevant periods, although Werner was staring at those cameras earlier. Whoever he was talking to, whether or not it was his wife, it was about the escape and there was some kind of coded communication going on there hidden as innocuous couples talk.
 
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I'm skeptical of anyone we didn't see in BB being alive. There's no reason to think Saul would be in the loop if he gets killed, although the question is whether he gets taken out quickly or is the major antagonist of the next season. Saul obviously knows who he is by the events of BB. Also I'm wondering who on the outside helped Werner escape and/or kidnapped him. It seems someone had to have been on the outside to help disabling the cameras for the relevant periods, although Werner was staring at those cameras earlier. Whoever he was talking to, whether or not it was his wife, it was about the escape and there was some kind of coded communication going on there hidden as innocuous couples talk.
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I took Mike shining the laser pointer into the camera outside as confirmation that Werner used that to effectively 'blind' the cameras while he fled. Why he dropped it after, I don't know.
 
Oh Kim, the sad realization that Jimmy is a fucking sociopath. He's a cartoony person in BB but in this one all that shit when he was crying and stuff made him feel more real, well actually this whole series is a deconstruction of pesky lawyer adventures turned Sopranos (ala Season 5) why was he crying in the car? Anyone?
 
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Man, I can't wait to see more Lalo shenanigans. He's so fun to see on the screen. When he went all John McClane to kill the kid behind the counter, I laughed too hard.

I'm also hoping we get to see some sort of conflict between HHM and the new DBA entity of Saul Goodman. I really would like to see more of Howard the next season.

I found it kinda surprising that they didn't have another Gene-scene during this episode to sort of tease things for the next season (that we're gonna have to wait a year and a half for).
 
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I never thought it would be this show that would have the joy that is Michael McKean singing ABBA.
Lalo continues to be the most entertaining character. I agree with @Schmeckel. Seeing him going full McClane just to kill some dorky Western Union worker was hilarious
@Zaragoza I took it as he realised the truth after his little pep talk with the girl, he clearly saw himself in her
Goddamn the scene with Mike and Werner at the end. Jonathan Banks deserves a fucking Emmy this season.
Kim has seen The Matrix to quote Jimmy. She's gone next season. Saul is now officially in.
 
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Oh Kim, the sad realization that Jimmy is a fucking sociopath. He's a cartoony person in BB but in this one all that shit when he was crying and stuff made him feel more real, well actually this whole serious is a deconstructino of pesky lawyer adventures turned Sopranos (ala Season 5) why was he crying in the car? Anyone?
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He was crying in the car because of the speech he gave to that girl. Jimmy never wanted to be this way. You have to realize, Jimmy was doing everything in his power to change. To be a good brother. However, Chuck saw him as a nothing, a no-good criminal. No matter what Jimmy did, how hard Jimmy tried, Chuck kept dunking him, kept pushing him downward. And when he got to be good, when he got his career going, Chuck intentionally sabotaged it. That's why he was crying, and when he realized if Chuck always would see him that way, then the world would too.

He forced Jimmy to be the way he is because Chuck left Jimmy no other options. He backed Jimmy into a corner, never seeing him as anything more than slippin' Jimmy. He took care of Chuck for YEARS without compensation, without wanting anything more than his respect. He never even got that. I'm sorry, but Chuck was a huge piece of shit. He was responsible for his own demise in more ways than one. Jimmy tried to have a heartfelt moment with him, tried everything and all he got was, 'Oh yeah, I never really cared about you.'. That's when Jimmy went scorched Earth on him. That letter was probably written very early on when he was in the mailroom, because he NEVER wanted him to be a lawyer.

The speech with the girl and the crying in the car is when he turns into Saul, because he realizes that these snotty assholes will never see him as anymore than 'slippin Jimmy. Look at everything he did for Chuck. Did it matter? No. He was completely sincere in the law review. He didn't mention Chuck because he disliked his brother and didn't really want to be manipulative. A lot of times this season he tried not to be (like at that copier place). But that's the moment where he truly breaks and goes all Joker.

So you know what? Fuck them. Fuck them all. Fuck the profession of the 'law'. Fuck the respect of his brother. He didn't want Jimmy using his name, fine. He'll be that scumbag lawyer, because no one else will see past that anyway. If this is who people think I am, fine. Fuck it. Fuck the world. Let it burn.

You also have to realize Better Call Saul is a reverse of Breaking Bad and is more of a tragedy. Its about a man trying to overcome his past, but the biggest and most powerful influence in his life never lets him forget it, sabotages it at every turn, so he's forced, eventually, to embrace it. Because the sacrifices for the only family he had were for nothing so it sort of breaks him. Breaking Bad is about an evil man suppressed and then letting his true nature out. Walt was ALWAYS like that, he just never got a chance to exercise it.

Better Call Saul goes out of its way to show early on how Jimmy wanted to change, to be different. Breaking Bad showed how Walt was always Heisenberg, he just never had a chance to be. Eventually they both end up in the same place. Jimmy, because he was betrayed and hurt by the only family he had and was basically pushed back into his old life and goes farther downward because of it. Walt, because of unchecked power and wealth.
 
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The finale was great. Loved it. Terrific stuff.

Now the show is going to get even more praise, and Bob Odenkirk is just outstanding.

BUT,

Can we talk about how good Rhea Seehorn is on this show? Her reactions, even simple facial expressions, are just perfect and sell everything that happens flawlessly.
 
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The finale was great. Loved it. Terrific stuff.

Now the show is going to get even more praise, and Bob Odenkirk is just outstanding.

BUT,

Can we talk about how good Rhea Seehorn is on this show? Her reactions, even simple facial expressions, are just perfect and sell everything that happens flawlessly.
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Rhea Seehorn deserves a protagonic role in a series or a film asap.
 
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CWCissey said:
I'm wondering if Kim does Jimmy the last solid, but the Lubbock caper catches up to her, and she gets buttfucked hard.
Lalo survives, Saul asks if Jesse and Walt are sent by him during their intimidation attempt. I think Gus forces Nacho to try, but he fails. Jimmy is somehow involved.
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Lalo is definitely dead by the time Walt meets Saul, there's no reason Saul would be informed if Lalo and Nacho died and Gus is pretty clear in one of his last conversations with Hector, the Salamanca bloodline will die with him.

Nacho can survive or get out of it with his life like Jesse at the end of BB but I don't think it's likely.
 
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I mean technically speaking, Saul never directly dealt with Gus before Walt told him who he was. The way Saul got info on the "Mysterious Drug Connection" was asking a guy (The Vet contact I guess) who knows a guy (Mike) who knows a guy (Gus)

So Saul wouldn't know if Gus killed both Nacho and Lalo in secret just letting people think they "Took a trip to Belize"
Thus leading to his reaction to Walt and Jessie in the desert. But I guess we won't find out until a year and a half for the next season.
 
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