Beyond Skyrim Community

[CoolSexHaver420]

I didn't read the last two pages of fags shitting up the thread with debates on elven lore but I'll talk about the tranny thing a bit because this just set off a sort of lightbulb in my head.

First it's really, really telling that all the tranny social ladder climbers joined after this got popular, not before.

Second, reading those chatlogs makes it so obvious (moreso than it was to me already) that all of the tranny shit is just a fetish. Blatantly, undeniably so. I bet most of the trannies started as porn addicts and had to keep escalating until the deviant behavior amounted to self-mutilation and a form of social exhibitionism. it's the same as furries, they get off on shoving it in people's faces and they cannot help but inject it into every single dumbass thing they ever do, to the absolute detriment of every aspect of their lives.

And nobody can say anything about it. We have to pretend it's not only normal, but heroic. They know that we know that it's not normal, and they get off on making us walk on eggshells. It's about power. On some level these people know exactly what they are doing and they enjoy using it as a cudgel to shame people into enabling their fetish.

And it happens to every single community they enter, without fail. These people have the shit midas touch. Their ideology spreads slowly, but it always ruins everything eventually. I've watched this same scenario play out the exact same way through so many subcultures. Space Station 13 had the exact same thing happen a while ago with the server that basically started the whole thing (Goonstation) and all of the talented people inevitably end up leaving or being exiled, usually never to return. This is a widespread, recurring problem with a very identifiable pattern: genuinely talented people are split apart by the narcissistic, masturbatory fantasy life these trannies are obsessively compelled to engage in.

It's not just on the Internet either - this exact process happened to Occupy Wall Street and that was a lot of people's first exposure to tranny shit. On that topic, it sure is a weird coincidence that this demonstrably destructive social pathogen is immediately popularized right when the financial elite feel threatened, in the exact subculture it would have needed to become popular to render said threat laughable.

Once you allow even a modicum of the tranny cancer in any setting, the death of the host subculture is inevitable. Amputate before it's too late.

 

[Merry]

How are they going to finish Starfield and ES6 in two years?

Skyrim began in 2008 and released in 2011. Fallout 4 was fully started around 2013 and released in 2015. They've likely been in development of the game for multiple years already, and I suspect on a heavily upgraded engine given the current large gaps between new games and their new ownership by Microsoft.

So I can safely assume they've been putting lots of time and effort into Starfield and ES6 considering the teasers which were 2 years ago. Hopefully they defer to Obsidian on writing bc they're also a Microsoft owned business and daddy probably wants his children to cooperate for profit (optimistic again, I know).

edit: Todd quote from the Elder Scrolls wiki "On 21 September 2020, in an address regarding Microsoft's acquisition of ZeniMax Media, Todd Howard stated that advances in computing power in consoles like the Xbox Series X/S "led to our largest engine overhaul since Oblivion, with all new technologies powering our first new IP in 25 years, Starfield, as well as The Elder Scrolls VI.""

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

Trying to pick my brain if there's ever been a gay Dunmer, considering they're one of the most socially "conservative" groups in TES lore.

There's a lesbian Dunmer in ESO in Vivec, who takes her wife on a vacation to Black Marsh. ESO does pretty well with adding in muh diversity in a way that doesn't feel obtrusive or pandering. Pretty much the opposite as what these trannies are trying to do.

I saw the leak threads on /v/ and was surprised at how much of an autistic shitshow this whole thing was, this could be a fun thread if the trannies drive more and more competent modders away.

 

[VALIS News Network]

How are they going to finish Starfield and ES6 in two years?

Very carefully.

 

[CoolSexHaver420]

To expand on my further point because I went to bed after writing that and woke up still mad about trannies.

If we can come to the conclusion that this is a fetish - which I think, for reasons I have already laid out - is undeniable (google autogynephelia - it is very real, increasingly common, and begins with porn addiction) then doesn't it logically follow that coercing other people to engage in your fetish by violating this false identity is a form of sexual boundary violation? Wouldn't it be a minor-league MeToo moment every time a tranny yells at you for not using pronouns?

How is the tranny shit tangibly, logically different than socially coercing someone into playing along into an ABDL/diaper fetish? In 5 years, can't we extrapolate this same moral reasoning to see a situation where an employee can complain to HR and get a coworker fired because he refused to say "wow your diaper's really full it's stinky" every time they walked into the room?

Can someone explain to me how these two scenarios are different?

Once you understand the psychology behind why people troon out, it becomes so apparent how abhorrent the behavior is and suddenly it all makes sense. You just pull on the thread of the root cause and it all unravels. And it's so obvious, we've just been conditioned that it's dangerous to notice it or think about it, but I think on some level everyone understands this. Everyone instinctively understands on a subconscious level that enabling the tranny shit is degrading, both to the enabler and the tranny. This is why MANY everday people, while they can't articulate exactly WHY, will confess that they're creeped out by it if they trust you enough to verbalize wrongthink. This in itself is a massive gesture of trust, as they all realize it could cost them their jobs, their reputation, their lives.

It's like 1984 except the police state is just fat white guys beating off thinking about wearing stockings and wigs, and we're so fucking docile and meek and scared that this absolutely pathetic, clearly detestable controller class is somehow more powerful than an actual police state.

Maybe if we're this easy to control, if we cave into something this pathetic, that we don't deserve true freedom. That's what the controllers are trying to condition us to believe, anyway - that's why they degrade us by forcing us to go along with a song and dance that's so obviously fucking retarded. The emperor has no clothes, save for a powdered wig and stockings. The tranny shit is just the controllers laughing at us, degrading us, getting off on it.

 

[Troonwhisperer]

Is that surprising? Almost all autist men turn sooner or later into troons. So most devs we will see in the future will be autist male larping as womxn. Isn't it suspicious that you barely see any troon in traditional feminine/gay professions like nurses, fashion designers or musical directors?
The gay shit is something nobody needs and is something that actually damages the reputation of gays, even though it's much less prevalent than the troon shit. Look, I'm gay myself. But I don't need sexuality in a video game. There are some games that incorporated gay themes and did it quite successfully, like Nier. But if you can't manage to incorporate a character such that he/she isn't defined by sexuality, just don't it. I'm not playing a video game to feel validated, but to get entertained. If someone needs his/her sexuality so validated, just watch porn. Furthermore it doesn't make sense if you're 4% of the population to be 20% of all video game characters. For troons it makes even less sense, since they make not even 1% of the population. But the people who complain about not enough diversity in video games are the same people who claim that Winx club (actually an Italian series) was "whitewashed".

 

[scathefire]

Okay, so I've read through pretty much the entirety of all the /v/ threads listed, and one thing that nobody has mentioned yet is how bad some of the screencaps look. I haven't downloaded the mod files to my own game, but just based on what was posted it's not looking super great.



This one being bad is more a matter of opinion, but I personally don't like it. It looks even more like a set piece from a theme park than the vanilla skyrim cities do.

Also, what's this shit about some pedophile being involved in the upper ranks of the BS team? Is any of that true?

 

[Tingle]

Okay, so I've read through pretty much the entirety of all the /v/ threads listed, and one thing that nobody has mentioned yet is how bad some of the screencaps look. I haven't downloaded the mod files to my own game, but just based on what was posted it's not looking super great.
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This one being bad is more a matter of opinion, but I personally don't like it. It looks even more like a set piece from a theme park than the vanilla skyrim cities do.

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Also, what's this shit about some pedophile being involved in the upper ranks of the BS team? Is any of that true?

This stuff looks straight out of a shitty asset flip off of Steam Greenlight or the old XBLA.

Ten years for this.

 

[Creep3r]

Okay, so I've read through pretty much the entirety of all the /v/ threads listed, and one thing that nobody has mentioned yet is how bad some of the screencaps look. I haven't downloaded the mod files to my own game, but just based on what was posted it's not looking super great.
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This one being bad is more a matter of opinion, but I personally don't like it. It looks even more like a set piece from a theme park than the vanilla skyrim cities do.

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The first pic you posted looks like a weird mishmash of incompatible levels of quality (like somethings look good and others look shit and some look out of place) while trying to look like LOTR Online.

Also, what's this shit about some pedophile being involved in the upper ranks of the BS team? Is any of that true?

As far as I can see, one of them was accused of grooming younger members into trooning out. Maybe they're talking about Rubaedo's interactions? Makes me wish the jannies on /v/ hadn't started deleting the BS threads over useless DMCAs. Discussions on it have strangely disappeared even on /vg/.

This is the most recent discussion I could find on the matter:

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/544052647

And its mostly just shitposting or damage control and is pretty much useless since it doesn't offer anything new.

Its already known that a lot more got leaked (like Illiac Bay and Elsweyr) but aside from the magnet links in the OP, all the other links are dead. All we can do now is wait for the files to show up in some future torrent links to find out what the rest of their modding "vision" looks like.

Anyway I took a quick peak into their discord and it seems several of them defend Fallout Frontier and think that the hate towards it was because it was made up of troons rather than accepting that the mod was simply a disaster.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Okay, so I've read through pretty much the entirety of all the /v/ threads listed, and one thing that nobody has mentioned yet is how bad some of the screencaps look. I haven't downloaded the mod files to my own game, but just based on what was posted it's not looking super great.
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This one being bad is more a matter of opinion, but I personally don't like it. It looks even more like a set piece from a theme park than the vanilla skyrim cities do.

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Excuse me what the fuck are these supposed to be?

 

[scathefire]

As far as I can see, one of them was accused of grooming younger members into trooning out. Maybe they're talking about Rubaedo's interactions? Makes me wish the jannies on /v/ hadn't started deleting the BS threads over useless DMCAs. Discussions on it have strangely disappeared even on /vg/.

I was talking about this. Again, I have no idea who "nizpo" is or if any of it is true, but nonetheless it's a very specific allegation that's being made here.

Although it appears to be this guy in their discord server, BenH.

Edit: More posts about nizpo (nizposts?)

Spoiler

 

[niqlo]

I mean, the entire "Beyond Skyrim" project is seperated into entirely different modding teams for each area - it's not a single mod but a whole lot of seperate ones with different modding teams working on them individually, so just because the Black Marsh and Morrowind teams are full of incompetent retards doesn't mean all the other mods are going to suck too.

Beyond Skyrim has a huge number of people involved with it, so it goes without saying that there will be a bunch of bad apples. It being a large gaming community the amount of trans/furries/weirdos in it doesn't really surprise me, honestly. I'm still looking forward to it regardless, even if Black Marsh/Morrowind suck (or just never materialize at all), with the standard that's been shown already in Bruma and the devlogs I'm pretty confident that everything else will be great, even if it doesn't live up to everyone's expectations.

 

[Rakdos92]

Anyway I took a quick peak into their discord and it seems several of them defend Fallout Frontier and think that the hate towards it was because it was made up of troons rather than accepting that the mod was simply a disaster.

Clearly they haven't played Frontier, if they can say "Frontier doesn't prove troons are bad!" with a straight face. If anything, Frontier is yet another example why LGBT are perverts and freaks who need to be beaten back into the closet.

 

[Creep3r]

Clearly they haven't played Frontier, if they can say "Frontier doesn't prove troons are bad!" with a straight face.

Elsewhere the Fallout Miami modders actually bothered to point out the flaws of Frontier without needing to address the troons behind it, but with these guys any criticism aimed at Frontier was clearly just part of some 4chan spec ops against the brave and oppressed troons.

 

[Dyn]

Clearly they haven't played Frontier, if they can say "Frontier doesn't prove troons are bad!" with a straight face. If anything, Frontier is yet another example why LGBT are perverts and freaks who need to be beaten back into the closet.

Wasn't it furries and pedos who inserted their fetishes into Frontier? What's that got to do with the talented LGBT and trans folk working on Beyond Skyrim?

 

[scathefire]

I mean, the entire "Beyond Skyrim" project is seperated into entirely different modding teams for each area - it's not a single mod but a whole lot of seperate ones with different modding teams working on them individually, so just because the Black Marsh and Morrowind teams are full of incompetent retards doesn't mean all the other mods are going to suck too.

Beyond Skyrim has a huge number of people involved with it, so it goes without saying that there will be a bunch of bad apples. It being a large gaming community the amount of trans/furries/weirdos in it doesn't really surprise me, honestly. I'm still looking forward to it regardless, even if Black Marsh/Morrowind suck (or just never materialize at all), with the standard that's been shown already in Bruma and the devlogs I'm pretty confident that everything else will be great, even if it doesn't live up to everyone's expectations.

I think one of the main issues is that this project is probably never going to be finished because the people working on it have been doing way more dicking around for the past 10 or so years as opposed to actual work. Tamriel Rebuilt for Morrowind on the other hand has been going on for 16 years and has been consistently putting out new content this entire time. All we really have is Bruma, which I suppose is somewhat encouraging on its own but that might be because the Cyrodiil team seems to have its shit together the most.

Also, I'm pretty sure the shitty screencaps above are from the Iliac Bay region, which in those 4chan threads was hyped up to be the project worked on by the "super heckin based" people as opposed to the weirdos in Morrowind and Black Marsh. I guess so, but what they've actually made looks the most shit out of all the other screencaps that were posted. So much for being based.

 

[Based Papa John]

Just opened "Prospering Grounds" on a lark, and was gravely disappointed to find this thread in it.

I mean, the entire "Beyond Skyrim" project is seperated into entirely different modding teams for each area - it's not a single mod but a whole lot of seperate ones with different modding teams working on them individually, so just because the Black Marsh and Morrowind teams are full of incompetent retards doesn't mean all the other mods are going to suck too.

Beyond Skyrim has a huge number of people involved with it, so it goes without saying that there will be a bunch of bad apples. It being a large gaming community the amount of trans/furries/weirdos in it doesn't really surprise me, honestly. I'm still looking forward to it regardless, even if Black Marsh/Morrowind suck (or just never materialize at all), with the standard that's been shown already in Bruma and the devlogs I'm pretty confident that everything else will be great, even if it doesn't live up to everyone's expectations.

The Bruma mod is decent. Of course, it seems that the Cyrodiil team is the only one that's actually moving forward at this point with any sense of care and professionalism. I'm looking forward to other modules that will hopefully arrive soon-ish. Hopefully.

I didn't read the last two pages of fags shitting up the thread with debates on elven lore but I'll talk about the tranny thing a bit because this just set off a sort of lightbulb in my head.

First it's really, really telling that all the tranny social ladder climbers joined after this got popular, not before.

Second, reading those chatlogs makes it so obvious (moreso than it was to me already) that all of the tranny shit is just a fetish. Blatantly, undeniably so. I bet most of the trannies started as porn addicts and had to keep escalating until the deviant behavior amounted to self-mutilation and a form of social exhibitionism. it's the same as furries, they get off on shoving it in people's faces and they cannot help but inject it into every single dumbass thing they ever do, to the absolute detriment of every aspect of their lives.

Even if we grant that there are a few individuals that operate under the genuine delusion that they were born the wrong sex, I'd say you're right in that the vast majority of these troons are living out a fetish. The current line is that "autogynephilia is made up," as if that's profound.

I think these people know deep down that there's something wrong with it. That's why they need society to "validate" - a word that I have come to despise out of its overusage - their lifestyle. They convince themselves, so they need society to do it for them.

And it happens to every single community they enter, without fail. These people have the shit midas touch. Their ideology spreads slowly, but it always ruins everything eventually. I've watched this same scenario play out the exact same way through so many subcultures. Space Station 13 had the exact same thing happen a while ago with the server that basically started the whole thing (Goonstation) and all of the talented people inevitably end up leaving or being exiled, usually never to return. This is a widespread, recurring problem with a very identifiable pattern: genuinely talented people are split apart by the narcissistic, masturbatory fantasy life these trannies are obsessively compelled to engage in.

That's because these people are literally insane. Anyone who knows a troon IRL knows this. They are mentally and emotionally unstable. MtF troons tend to fantasize about violence. These people always end up being into some form of pedophilic shit or what have you (There's a reason why people don't want men in women's bathrooms for this reason). Given how insane and porn-twisted many of these guys are, it's only a matter of time before they ruin something. And you're right: it's a fetish that mainstream society at least pretends to accept, only out of fear of being called a bigot otherwise. It can only get worse from here.

It's not just on the Internet either - this exact process happened to Occupy Wall Street and that was a lot of people's first exposure to tranny shit. On that topic, it sure is a weird coincidence that this demonstrably destructive social pathogen is immediately popularized right when the financial elite feel threatened, in the exact subculture it would have needed to become popular to render said threat laughable.

The modern Western Left is the vanguard of the Neolib order. Race, gender, and sexual issues don't really threaten the establishment, so they promote it - or at least tolerate it - in order to give Lefty types an avenue to vent and play revolutionary all the while ignoring the real issues of wealth concentration. They'll be binned whenever the establishment has no need for them anymore.

 

[scathefire]

Lol sorry I don't mean to spam posts on this 3-day-old thread, but I thought this was interesting. Also, I added more posts about Nizpo to my post above. I thought I had read everything, but it turns out I didn't. Oops. I'd still be really interested to see what the rest of Iliac Bay looks like if it ever gets leaked, given how shit the screencaps looked. I don't get the need for all this secrecy and full releases and whatever, why don't they just use the TR style of development where it's released piecemeal and you have the option to explore WIP areas and stuff?

 

[Creep3r]

I don't get the need for all this secrecy and full releases and whatever, why don't they just use the TR style of development where it's released piecemeal and you have the option to explore WIP areas and stuff?

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I always found their method of work to be suspicious. TR has always been open with its followers and it has only helped to maintain interest in their project. But BS is so secretive and private, closest thing being some cyrodiil enemy and item mods but those were released long after the project began.

And speaking of enemies, their minotaurs look rather off too.

They don't look much like bull-headed men nor like the ones seen in ESIV or ESO (pictured below for comparison).

Rather unsettling in a way. The face of the BS Minotaur looks like the one of that dog-mother from that sculpture "The Young Family".

I'm currently looking over their other assets but I'm waiting to sort out the rest of the textures.

 

[Banditotron]

Wasn't it furries and pedos who inserted their fetishes into Frontier? What's that got to do with the talented LGBT and trans folk working on Beyond Skyrim?

It was a group effort, I think. It takes people of all stripes to ruin everything.