Bhopal Incident - What happens when you let jeets handle extremely toxic chemicals

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lolcow yoghurt

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On 3 December 1984, a chemical leak occurred in a Union Carbide pesticide plant in India. It was operated by pajeets. As expected, the pajeets fucked up and lead to a huge leak of methyl isocyanate (extremely toxic, but much less so than the average atmosphere of India).

This is considered to be worst chemical leak ever, killed tens of thousands of pajeets upon a span of decades.

Chemicals in that gas cloud other than methyl isocyanate and phosgene include (but not limited to) chloroform, dichloromethane, hydrogen chloride, methylamine, dimethylamine, trimethylamine, and carbon dioxide. Still much less toxic and corrosive than average air.
long term effects said:
[*]Eyes: Chronic conjunctivitis, scars on cornea, corneal opacities, early cataracts
[*]Respiratory tracts: Obstructive and/or restrictive disease, pulmonary fibrosis, aggravation of tuberculosis and chronic bronchitis
[*]Neurological system: Impairment of memory, finer motor skills, numbness, etc.
[*]Psychological problems: Post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)
[*]Children's health: Peri- and neonatal death rates increased. Failure to grow, intellectual impairment, etc.
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lolcow yoghurt said:
a chemical leak occurred in a Union Carbide pesticide plant in India
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The "union carbide India ltd" it was a separate division of union carbide that was something like 50.5% owned by union carbide and 49.5% owned by the Indian government, virtually all staff there were Indian.


lots of people like to spin a narrative of "evil US company exploiting Indians" when in reality it was the Indian government paying huge sums to bribe foreign companies to set up manufacturing in India when there really wasn't the skilled work force to do the manufacturing.
 
As a connoisseur of all those old disaster shows, it's absolutely wild how many maintenance processes were just skipped, storage & safety systems offline, and backups to the backups dismantled or deactivated.

Refrigeration unit offline, pipes visibly leaking and corroded, gas scrubber and flare tower dismantled, fill levels exceeded and alarms disabled...any of which would've brought down the wrath of the UC mother ship, but the locals just carried on like everything was fine, and the local regulators either couldn't be bothered or were bribed not to care.

You'd think this would've been a great lesson to all the corporations outsourcing to low-/no-skilled countries, but instead the lesson was just "fake outrage for endless UC gibs", when the only way they could've realistically prevented it was nonstop Western babysitting, at which point you may as well just fire the Indians and not put the plant there to begin with.
 
JohnnyG said:
As a connoisseur of all those old disaster shows, it's absolutely wild how many maintenance processes were just skipped, storage & safety systems offline, and backups to the backups dismantled or deactivated.

Refrigeration unit offline, pipes visibly leaking and corroded, gas scrubber and flare tower dismantled, fill levels exceeded and alarms disabled...any of which would've brought down the wrath of the UC mother ship, but the locals just carried on like everything was fine, and the local regulators either couldn't be bothered or were bribed not to care.

You'd think this would've been a great lesson to all the corporations outsourcing to low-/no-skilled countries, but instead the lesson was just "fake outrage for endless UC gibs", when the only way they could've realistically prevented it was nonstop Western babysitting, at which point you may as well just fire the Indians and not put the plant there to begin with.
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The pipes were corroded, because in the documentation was stainless steel, but someone ordered a cheaper grade and took the rest of the money, of course.
But even if they ordered India-made stainless, they'd get whatever was in the Safety Squint Steelworks' scrap heap that day anyway (very good, don't worry about it)
 
JohnnyG said:
As a connoisseur of all those old disaster shows, it's absolutely wild how many maintenance processes were just skipped, storage & safety systems offline, and backups to the backups dismantled or deactivated.

Refrigeration unit offline, pipes visibly leaking and corroded, gas scrubber and flare tower dismantled, fill levels exceeded and alarms disabled...any of which would've brought down the wrath of the UC mother ship, but the locals just carried on like everything was fine, and the local regulators either couldn't be bothered or were bribed not to care.

You'd think this would've been a great lesson to all the corporations outsourcing to low-/no-skilled countries, but instead the lesson was just "fake outrage for endless UC gibs", when the only way they could've realistically prevented it was nonstop Western babysitting, at which point you may as well just fire the Indians and not put the plant there to begin with.
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Good morning sirs, these things are not essential to production of the products requested. Please kindly do the needful and remit the next fundings from Union Carbide.

We definitely need them to do the jobs our people won't.

It's a helpful reminder India has one of the lowest average IQs in the world, far worse than most sub-Saharan Africans and on par with Pygmies, Aborigines and tribes in Papua New Guinea.
 
2mm and 99 others said:
The pipes were corroded, because in the documentation was stainless steel, but someone ordered a cheaper grade and took the rest of the money, of course.
But even if they ordered India-made stainless, they'd get whatever was in the Safety Squint Steelworks' scrap heap that day anyway (very good, don't worry about it)
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They went with regular steel because some high up Jeet in the local government was related to another Jeet that owned a steel mill in India that made pipe.
The entire project was plagued with things like this.

The Indian government demanded Indians be in charge after the plant was built.
On paper Union Carbide owned 50.2 % of the company but in reality The Indian government and the Jeets at the plant were calling the shots.

The moral of the story should have been "Don't bring complicated hazardous chemical processes to people who haven't managed indoor plumbing".
Instead it became "America Bad!".

I was talking about this one day with my uncle and he said "I remember that. In one day Union Carbide killed more Indians than John Wayne."

Part of why the death toll was so high is homeless Jeets had built a shanty city in what was supposed to be a big bunch of empty space around the plant.
UC tried to get rid of them but the local politicians wouldn't let them.
More Jeets in your district make you a more important politician apparently.

This vintage ad took on a whole new meaning after the leak.
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As did this safety film by none other than Leonard Nimoy
They missed the date by a couple of years.
 
I seem to recall the jeets decided to have a fucking tea break immediately after they were notified of the problems. Third worlders man.
 
Really makes you want to import hundreds of thousands of these people to the US and put them in charge of critical industries.
 
Bomber Harris Union Carbide, do it again!
 
You wouldn't know it unless you looked really close but Union Carbide is still around.
Usually when Dow buys a company they absorb it and erase any trace of it.
Try to pull up the Rohm and Hass web page and see what happens:
rohmhaas.com

Now try:
https://www.unioncarbide.com/

Dow has kept them at arms length just in case some activist judge decides to reverse case law and ignore the statute of limitations.

After what the courts did to Alex Jones I can't blame them.

One more thing, you may have heard protesters complain that UC left the plant a mess and they refuse to clean it up.
That's sort of true.
They leave out the part where the settlement that they paid turned the property over to the Indian government.

That was the terms of the deal the government agreed to.
UC paid a 3rd party to build a hospital in Bhopal.
When the Indians found out UC paid for it they made the galaxy brained decision to bulldoze it while still asking for more money.

After that UC pretty much has said "Read the settlement, bitches."

As an Indian I guess it is easier to blame all your problems on the US rather than wonder why the Indians that ran the plant did such a bad job or ask what the Indian government did with the millions UC paid them decades ago.
 
TheGoodNamesHaveBeenTaken said:
They went with regular steel because some high up Jeet in the local government was related to another Jeet that owned a steel mill in India that made pipe.
The entire project was plagued with things like this.

The Indian government demanded Indians be in charge after the plant was built.
On paper Union Carbide owned 50.2 % of the company but in reality The Indian government and the Jeets at the plant were calling the shots.

The moral of the story should have been "Don't bring complicated hazardous chemical processes to people who haven't managed indoor plumbing".
Instead it became "America Bad!".

I was talking about this one day with my uncle and he said "I remember that. In one day Union Carbide killed more Indians than John Wayne."

Part of why the death toll was so high is homeless Jeets had built a shanty city in what was supposed to be a big bunch of empty space around the plant.
UC tried to get rid of them but the local politicians wouldn't let them.
More Jeets in your district make you a more important politician apparently.

This vintage ad took on a whole new meaning after the leak.
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As did this safety film by none other than Leonard Nimoy
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J7Dd1cDMZVwThey missed the date by a couple of years.
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Shouldnt be surprised. Ive heard about this before and of course everything ive heard was "omg white man bad look what they did to poor indians" when describing the events.
 
If you are interested in this disaster https://www.bhopal.com/ is worth checking out.
That is Union Carbide / Dow's version of what happened.

These 2 reports are worth reading

There are 2 main theories on what happened.

The first theory is thousands of gallons of water accidently got into the MIC tank.
The other theory is someone put the water there on purpose by someone who knew enough to understand water would ruin the batch but did not understand the water would cause gas to form.

I tend to believe theory number 2.

The pipes that were supposed to be the path for the water to accidently get in were tested and found to be dry.

I don't see how the MIC tank could be open to random water yet not have the MIC leak off through that connection.

When Union Carbide was finally allowed to start their investigation they were not allowed to question employees.

That seems a little suspicious if it all was just a "tragic accident"

Mostly I believe the sabotage theory because it seems the most "Indian".

Retarded Jeet kills thousands of other Jeets.
Jeets at all levels of government and media cover that up and blame America.

It fits.
 
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