CN Biden Orders New Report on Virus Origin From U.S. Spies


President Joe Biden said he ordered the U.S. intelligence community to “redouble” its effort to determine where the coronavirus came from, after conflicting assessments of whether its origins are natural or a lab accident.

In a statement Wednesday, Biden said the intelligence community delivered a report to him earlier this month that showed it was divided on the origins of the pandemic. Two “elements” of the community lean toward animals being the source, while one leans toward a lab origin, “each with low or moderate confidence,” Biden said.

“The majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other,” he added.

More than a year after the emergence of the worst pandemic in more than a century, scientists have yet to determine the virus’s origins. The first cases of Covid-19 were reported in Wuhan, China, where the Beijing government runs a high-security biosafety lab that researches coronaviruses.

U.S. politicians have debated the potential origin of the virus since nearly the start of the pandemic. Suspicions of the Wuhan lab have been fueled by Chinese resistance to international investigations, as well as Beijing’s own inconsistent explanations for the emergence of the virus.

Former President Donald Trump’s director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Robert Redfield, said earlier this year that he believed the virus most likely escaped from the Wuhan lab.

‘Press China’​

Biden’s statement Wednesday makes plain that the U.S. continues to investigate whether the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the source of the outbreak -- a theory that has generally been downplayed by health experts.

Biden had asked National Security AdvisorJake Sullivan in March to prepare a report on the origin on the virus. He said Wednesday that he has ordered a new report in 90 days.

“I have now asked the Intelligence Community to redouble their efforts to collect and analyze information that could bring us closer to a definitive conclusion,” Biden said. That includes “specific questions for China,” he said.

“The United States will also keep working with like-minded partners around the world to press China to participate in a full, transparent, evidence-based international investigation and to provide access to all relevant data and evidence,” Biden said.

White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre declined to say which element of the intelligence community believed the lab was the likeliest source. She said the report was inconclusive but declined to say if Biden would take any action against China as a result of the investigation.

“We need to get to the bottom of this. As we all know, we’ve lost almost 600,000 Americans to Covid-19, and we have to get a better sense of the origins of Covid-19 and also: how do we prevent the next pandemic?” she said.

Asked whether Biden’s use of the phrase “lab accident” ruled out the possibility that it came from the lab purposefully, she replied: ”We haven’t ruled out anything yet.”

Journal Reports​


The Wall Street Journal reported this weekthat U.S. intelligence indicates three researchers from the lab became sick enough in November 2019 that they sought hospital care. The Journal also reported that the Chinese government is restricting access to an abandoned copper mine in southwest China where researchers from the Wuhan lab collected coronavirus samples after a 2012 incident in which six miners fell ill with a “mysterious” respiratory illness. Three died.

On Monday, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki downplayed the Journal report.

“We don’t have enough information to draw a conclusion about the origins,” she said. “There is a need to look into a range of options. We need data, we need an independent investigation, and that’s exactly what we’ve been calling for.”

Diana DeGette, the chair of the House Energy and Commerce Commitee’s Oversight and Investigation subcommittee, said during a hearing Wednesday that she supported determining whether the virus came from a lab.

“We’re going to do whatever investigation is appropriate,” she said in response to subcommittee Republican Michael Burgess of Texas, a medical doctor, who emphasized the panel needed to look into the virus’s origins.

A World Health Organization report earlier this year said the most likely origin was that the virus spread to humans from bats through an unspecified intermediary animal. But the White House criticized the report as incomplete and lacking crucial data, and WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said “I do not believe that this assessment was extensive enough” and that the lab-leak theory needed more investigation.

Republican lawmakers have called for both investigations and retaliation, if it’s ever established the virus escaped from the Wuhan lab.

“If it did come from the lab, that’s something we need to know, right, because that’s a completely different problem for the world, and people who are in charge of that lab, and who set in motion this virus, need to be held accountable in some fashion to deter this in the future,” Senator Lindsey Graham said Wednesday.

The South Carolina Republican added: “I don’t know if it came from the lab or not, but it’s getting more likely that that’s the answer, as you exclude other possibilities.”

Redfield, who led the CDC under Trump, said in March that he thinks the Wuhan lab is the likeliest origin. However, Anthony Fauci, who heads the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and serves as a Biden coronavirus adviser, said that the majority of the public health community disagrees.

“I still believe that the most likely scenario is that this was a natural occurrence, but no one knows that 100% for sure,” Fauci said Wednesday in testimony on Capitol Hill.
 
Honestly, what difference does any of this shit make?
Let's say it did leak from a lab. What the fuck does it change? It's not like it's a secret that virology labs experiment on viruses. "Oops! our thing leaked, time to put up extra safeguards and maybe reprimand some people" is all we're ever gonna get out of this and it's probably exactly what did happen if the lab leak thing is true.
In a non-clown world, it would mean the final and irreversible death of news media as we know it.
 
Realistically the alphabet bois are just going to say whatever is politically convenient. if they want it DEBONKED for good it will be so that everyone can ”actually the very trustworthy cia said it didn’t so” or if it needs to be China it will be. just seems like a geo/domestic political move to me.
 
I guess I'll weigh in here, for good or ill. So we know that the virus originated in Wuhan. They welded people into commieblocks, there's video of it. What they didn't do is restrict travel from China during the Chinese new year, that is how it became a global pandemic.

The CCP is 100% culpable for the whole mess. Period, end of story. The question now is how to avert a fucking WAR. No one wants it who has any sense.

It would wreck us all to do so, and they know it too.
 
I guess I'll weigh in here, for good or ill. So we know that the virus originated in Wuhan. They welded people into commieblocks, there's video of it. What they didn't do is restrict travel from China during the Chinese new year, that is how it became a global pandemic.

The CCP is 100% culpable for the whole mess. Period, end of story. The question now is how to avert a fucking WAR. No one wants it who has any sense.

It would wreck us all to do so, and they know it too.
Why would you avert war when you can fly to safe vaults and there's so much money to be made? Remember, we're talking about sociopaths that feel like they will never be touched. All they're worried about is their control and their assets; hell, look at how many of them are in bed with the CCP. They could easily tell people that the CCP did it and that the proles can eat shit and keep funding Amazon.
 
I guess I'll weigh in here, for good or ill. So we know that the virus originated in Wuhan. They welded people into commieblocks, there's video of it. What they didn't do is restrict travel from China during the Chinese new year, that is how it became a global pandemic.

The CCP is 100% culpable for the whole mess. Period, end of story. The question now is how to avert a fucking WAR. No one wants it who has any sense.

It would wreck us all to do so, and they know it too.
It's this reason that made me absolutely despise the Chinese government. They fucked the entire world, lab leak or not, intentionally. They saw that Covid was tearing through their population and wanted to drag the rest of the world down to economic hell with them. I nearly popped a gasket when I learned they restricted local travel to and around Beijing from Wuhan and the affected areas but did nothing to shut down international travel. You can say what you want about their intentions but the bottom line is they fucked us all.

The worst part of it all is that they could have been the heroes of this scenario. If they just shut down everything and not denied everything from the start, they could have saved the world. Sure it would have been their own fuck up that caused this whole thing, but they would have had the world's respect and could have received all the international aid they needed to make sure covid was crushed. Even if they failed I'd at least give them props for trying to contain it. But they didn't, and for that I think they deserve to burn.
 
Why would you avert war when you can fly to safe vaults and there's so much money to be made? Remember, we're talking about sociopaths that feel like they will never be touched. All they're worried about is their control and their assets; hell, look at how many of them are in bed with the CCP. They could easily tell people that the CCP did it and that the proles can eat shit and keep funding Amazon.

You know, I can't say you're wrong. Not entirely. But at the same time, I think you're giving the elites of society far too much credit in their mental capacities to make decisions. If you look at what's come out of Davos the past few years, and read economic rags, it's fairly evident that those who would rule and do are subject to the whims of the masses even if they don't wish to be.

Social Justice. Reimagining marxist ideology while being ignorant of it's past failures. Black lives matter, the organization taking many black people on a ride to nowhere. Politicizing the pandemic that could have been stopped at the doors of that lab.

Revolution is on the minds of many, and that's why the vaults you speak of exist.
 
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It makes a huge difference when America goes tits up and the democrats realise beating Trump was a poison chalice. I think when Trump was in power they didn't realise just how fucked the situation was, now they do and they want to deflect hard. Trump will be blamed too, but they don't want to give him attention/a platform.


COVID blackpilled me tbh. Cant leave your home to see family/friends, cant leave your local area but yet we have all these foreign varients in the country, almost as if borders were kept open throughout the entire ordeal. Being in a pandemic, destroying your mental, physical and financial health are all a small price to pay for globalism.
It is no secret USA southern border is open with constant stream of illegals comming in with many getting in with no control at all. So of course sooner or later one of them will bring in new variety of coof
 

It's this reason that made me absolutely despise the Chinese government. They fucked the entire world, lab leak or not, intentionally. They saw that Covid was tearing through their population and wanted to drag the rest of the world down to economic hell with them. I nearly popped a gasket when I learned they restricted local travel to and around Beijing from Wuhan and the affected areas but did nothing to shut down international travel. You can say what you want about their intentions but the bottom line is they fucked us all.

The worst part of it all is that they could have been the heroes of this scenario. If they just shut down everything and not denied everything from the start, they could have saved the world. Sure it would have been their own fuck up that caused this whole thing, but they would have had the world's respect and could have received all the international aid they needed to make sure covid was crushed. Even if they failed I'd at least give them props for trying to contain it. But they didn't, and for that I think they deserve to burn.
Please stop with this. The CCP is responsible, not the Chinese people. A war with China would only cement the power of the elites. The CCP need to pay somehow, but saying they should all burn for it is nothing but revenge. And you know, ironically, there are 2 Chinese aphorisms that come to my mind. One is an insult, "may you live in interesting times", and another has to do with the subject of revenge. "When you go seeking revenge, make sure to dig 2 graves".
 
So we know that the virus originated in Wuhan. They welded people into commieblocks, there's video of it. What they didn't do is restrict travel from China during the Chinese new year, that

  • More athletes revealed they got sick in Wuhan during the Military World Games
  • They happened in October two months before the first confirmed case in China
  • German volleyball player Jacqueline Bock is the most recent athlete to speak out
Article dated 16th May 2020
 
Please stop with this. The CCP is responsible, not the Chinese people. A war with China would only cement the power of the elites. The CCP need to pay somehow, but saying they should all burn for it is nothing but revenge. And you know, ironically, there are 2 Chinese aphorisms that come to my mind. One is an insult, "may you live in interesting times", and another has to do with the subject of revenge. "When you go seeking revenge, make sure to dig 2 graves".
I never said anything about the Chinese people, I have no real issue with them, I'm pissed at the Chinese government. A Chinese peasant has as much control over the actions of the CCP than I do. When I say they need to burn, I mean it, whether that'll happen through political means, economic embargoes, or war remains to be seen.

I would rather not have a war, it's destructive and innocents will be caught in the crossfire, but I am not naive that it may be the only possibility. Should we just sit on our assess and wait for China to slowly encroach on the rest of Asia and supplant America as the world power? Where is the line in the sand where the world says enough and does something to get them in line? Maybe unleashing a global pandemic that has killed millions and crippled the economies of entire nations should be the final straw.

My country has to deal with China constantly encroaching on our lands, so to me I see them as a real threat to the sovereignty of my nation. If the chips are down, we will have to fight them (and lose to be honest, we're a small nation after all). I would hope that you would feel the same if your country is would be next in this hypothetical scenario.
 
Let's say it did leak from a lab. What the fuck does it change? It's not like it's a secret that virology labs experiment on viruses. "Oops! our thing leaked, time to put up extra safeguards and maybe reprimand some people" is all we're ever gonna get out of this and it's probably exactly what did happen if the lab leak thing is true.

Two things. Most immediately satisfying is that it helps move us towards toppling Fauci. Seeing him put in a prison cell might be optimistic (but I'll continue to help) but simply removing him from positions of influence would literally save lives. More strategically, it gives more ammunition to those of us trying to prevent Gain of Function research. And that's a very big thing because frankly, the next leak could be the real deal. We're now seeing laws proposed that ban simply exporting GoF research in another country to skirt legal restrictions. We're seeing those only because people now believe that Covid-19 is the result of such research. If everyone believes it's from "bat soup" then if anything, that might even result in more Gain of Function research.

Short version: The truth may help us avoid this:
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The line in the sand is where we all draw it with the ccp, no? They must be brought to heel somehow. I think the best way is pulling out their business model. They supply everyone with cheap shit. In order to do that, we have to unroot their grip on manufacturing first. Trump was 100 on that note. The bloodshed will be small, by proxy, and the people who suffer will as always be the small guys.
 
The fuck is there to disagree with? China randomly had people falling over and being welded into their homes months before the rest of the world got its shit rocked, spontaneously?

Moot point. No one believes you. Brace yourselves for the race riots when this report gets panned.
It doesn't matter if no one believes the Biden admin, that's not the point. The point is to write the history favorably to the Biden admin and China, end of story. The media will parrot the report, call everyone who doesn't believe it conspiracy theorists, Wikipedia will enshrine this as the official history, and that is it.

It is a bonus for it to be an obvious lie, as a demonstration of power over the country.

Ole Joe could have just saved some time and just not killed the exact same investigation that was started under Trump as soon as he came into office, but I'm sure axing it because muh drumpf was the politically expedient thing to do.
For one, that'd be giving Trump credit for something, and if Joe Biden has proven anything with his executive orders, it's that his administration is too petty to do that. (see: them taking credit for the vaccine, moving the date of our withdrawal from Afghanistan, or just all the border stupidity)

Secondly, Trump's investigation was run out of the State Department, Biden is relying on the "Intelligence Community" and the National Security Council. (sauce: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ed-teams-work-probing-covid-origin/ar-AAKp2Bf )
State is a cabinet department, who's head is confirmed by the Senate. The NSC is not part of the cabinet, they are informal advisors. This means no meaningful Congressional oversight of the investigation, and as that moron LegalEagle found out, no FOIA requests either. (sauce: https://www.foiaadvisor.com/home/2021/3/19/court-opinions-issued-mar-18-2021 )

And he's only giving the new team 90 days to make a determination as to the origins, using Chinese and WHO (Chinese influence) as sources. This is designed to get ahead of any investigation the Republicans might want to do and write the official history while they still can.

Maybe Hunter Biden will get another Chinese best seller out of this.
 
The line in the sand is where we all draw it with the ccp, no? They must be brought to heel somehow. I think the best way is pulling out their business model. They supply everyone with cheap shit. In order to do that, we have to unroot their grip on manufacturing first. Trump was 100 on that note. The bloodshed will be small, by proxy, and the people who suffer will as always be the small guys.
Imagine being the politician that runs on that and tries to stick their guns. Would you worry more about the MSM trying to make you irrelevant, companies bribing your opponents in every election, or your family getting in unfortunate accidents?
 
Lmao now all the cringe right wing femboys gonna get vaxxed with gmo juice made of aborted feti because they'll be scarred of a lethal virus with 0.02% lethality made by a scawwy ethnostate opposed to liberal degeneracy
 
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