Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

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No, they're just not retarded enough to get themselves v& by posting an internet bully site. I support Null's policy of banning people calling for violence, even if the calls don't fit the fed's criteria for involvement.
But people who are so mad that A&N exists they start crossing lines are true cancer. Also look at how many people were upset that sig specefically got banned, despite knowing what he did
Yeah the people mad that sig was banned are retarded too. They're not as retarded as the people who think burning shit, killing people and rioting are a good thing to do. Look at those screencaps I posted and notice that most of them were met with a great deal of approval. The only ones that dont have that majority of approval are the ones that got linked in a secret board for more sensible people to scoff at.

In what way, shape or form is a community which has people advocating these things and being praised for it acceptable to host on a website who's primary purpose is laughing at dumb people?
 
It has to be something that would get the feds involved with the site.
While there are specific lines that should not be crossed, there is still such a thing as enticement, escalation, and provocation, and too many people in that thread were building up to an inevitability. The fact that the specific post in question wasn't from an A&H regular is almost moot because one of them was bound to take a step too far, eventually. Just because nothing has happened to those users yet doesn't mean that nothing's going to happen in the future as a result of how closely they were walking to the line. That's not an indication either way, I genuinely mean that I don't know if something will happen.

There doesn't need to be a broad-sweeping purge to clean out the entire sub-forum and there doesn't need to be a massive lockdown on the sorts of topics that can be discussed, because there is actually an awful lot of middle-ground between becoming Stormfront and becoming Tumblr. There only needs to be a targeted response to the select few users who contribute little more than vitriol to every single discussion that they become a part of. The crux of the Farms is to have fun, and a lot of these people aren't having fun anymore. If someone isn't having fun, they don't need to be here.

If anyone thinks they know who I'm talking about, you probably don't.

A&H is clearly my favorite sub-forum so I wear my bias on my sleeves, but I am more than willing to admit that the Farms is not a democracy, it is not our own, personal playground, and access to it is not an inalienable right. In that same regard, criticism of the user-base in A&H is not a personal attack, though regulars from the sub-forum often take it as one. This is not helped by the fact that it's often framed as one, but it should not be difficult to admit that A&H has--much like every other sub-forum on this site--a small collection of users that ultimately contribute nothing and use it as little more than an extension of whatever community they came from prior to being here.

There's probably a painfully ironic moral in there somewhere about refugees diluting and destroying the community that they migrate to, because they completely refuse to integrate in any meaningful way. I know what's going to happen to those sorts of posts and the users that make them moving forwards, but at the moment I'm really not sure if any of it is going to be applied retroactively.

I think that some of the reactions in this thread have been more hyperbolic than they really need to be, but I can also admit that over the past month especially, some of the users in A&H have become abnormally twitchy. Even if I take their concerns to an almost absurd extreme and I accept that this election was completely stolen, the system is corrupt from top-to-bottom and we're soon to be under the rule of the Communist overlords, I still have to ask: Is the Farms really the appropriate staging area for this? Do you really expect Null to mantle the responsibility for your attempts to duct tape an armed revolution together? Is this perhaps not a fairly ridiculous place to pretend you're Robespierre?
 
There only needs to be a targeted response to the select few users who contribute little more than vitriol to every single discussion that they become a part of.
See, that's what I'm trying to say. I don't care about your political leanings or if you're a skinhead or a fat tumblrina, just don't shit up the place. You can talk about politics all day long with other (willing) users as long as you don't keep picking retarded fights and spewing vitriolic shit all over other boards because a sticker set you off.

Nobody wants to log on to have fun online after a hard day and the first thing they see is a bunch of incels and extremists acting like their shit don't stink and fighting each other like monkeys in heat.

The problem here isn't the topic of discussion, is the complete disregard for the site, its owner and other users.
 
While there are specific lines that should not be crossed, there is still such a thing as enticement, escalation, and provocation, and too many people in that thread were building up to an inevitability. The fact that the specific post in question wasn't from an A&H regular is almost moot because one of them was bound to take a step too far, eventually. Just because nothing has happened to those users yet doesn't mean that nothing's going to happen in the future as a result of how closely they were walking to the line. That's not an indication either way, I genuinely mean that I don't know if something will happen.

There doesn't need to be a broad-sweeping purge to clean out the entire sub-forum and there doesn't need to be a massive lockdown on the sorts of topics that can be discussed, because there is actually an awful lot of middle-ground between becoming Stormfront and becoming Tumblr. There only needs to be a targeted response to the select few users who contribute little more than vitriol to every single discussion that they become a part of. The crux of the Farms is to have fun, and a lot of these people aren't having fun anymore. If someone isn't having fun, they don't need to be here.

If anyone thinks they know who I'm talking about, you probably don't.

A&H is clearly my favorite sub-forum so I wear my bias on my sleeves, but I am more than willing to admit that the Farms is not a democracy, it is not our own, personal playground, and access to it is not an inalienable right. In that same regard, criticism of the user-base in A&H is not a personal attack, though regulars from the sub-forum often take it as one. This is not helped by the fact that it's often framed as one, but it should not be difficult to admit that A&H has--much like every other sub-forum on this site--a small collection of users that ultimately contribute nothing and use it as little more than an extension of whatever community they came from prior to being here.

There's probably a painfully ironic moral in there somewhere about refugees diluting and destroying the community that they migrate to, because they completely refuse to integrate in any meaningful way. I know what's going to happen to those sorts of posts and the users that make them moving forwards, but at the moment I'm really not sure if any of it is going to be applied retroactively.

I think that some of the reactions in this thread have been more hyperbolic than they really need to be, but I can also admit that over the past month especially, some of the users in A&H have become abnormally twitchy. Even if I take their concerns to an almost absurd extreme and I accept that this election was completely stolen, the system is corrupt from top-to-bottom and we're soon to be under the rule of the Communist overlords, I still have to ask: Is the Farms really the appropriate staging area for this? Do you really expect Null to mantle the responsibility for your attempts to duct tape an armed revolution together? Is this perhaps not a fairly ridiculous place to talk about this?
None of the people who were escalating it have been banned and only a few appear to have even been reprimanded for it. The worst I've seen done is a threadban. What message does it send when the punishment was the board being closed for less than half a day and a statement from null saying "I'll really do something to punish you guys if you dont stop"
 
Leave the cesspool of shitty and non sense politics to Twitter, Facebook and Instagram @Null . aint worth to risk this site just because some ppl wants to clout and even go beyond the limits by posting sensitive information that may lead to huge consequences.

and best wishes for a new year resolutions of whatever you're planned to do forward with this forum, maybe you even consider to spend less time on it at certain time
 
I don't usually post as much as I used to but what Null said is pretty much the truth, the site went through a lot of things back in the day, hackings, downtime, legal suits, heck there was once a time when we all sat in an IRC chat for a while and in video site just watching stupid YouTube shit because of problems with the host. It's sad that a lot of people have joined that thing this is just a really edgy place to feel like they are the chads of the internet.
 
He managed to out-retard the retards he was making fun of though. None of those guys were dumb enough to glowpost their way into a life of black dick.
if he couldn't realize that his threat was actually acitonable, that makes him the actual retard
I consider his fate a great tragedy. On a site of shitposters, his only crime, other than maybe violating federal law, was shitposting too hard. He put on such a convincing simulation of retardation that it was even able to fool highly-trained 80 IQ child-molesting government employees. Just as Socrates was perhaps the greatest of the Athenians, SIGSEGV was perhaps the greatest of the Kiwis. I sure hope his life is, uh, somehow recoverable.
 
tbqh fam, As one of the 2019 joiners, I was only an A&H poster because I have something to contribute/say there. I mostly lurk lolcow threads because I have nothing to add and I respect the work people put in (I lurked them pre-2019 as well). If it wasn't for the NZ shooting, I wouldn't have joined.

If I were to be banned along with all other 2019-2020 joiners, I would understand. I'd just go back to lurking the way I was before. The lulz would not stop because I was gone. And I doubt some of the spergs I've seen lately would be too devastating of a loss, either.
 
I consider his fate a great tragedy. On a site of shitposters, his only crime, other than maybe violating federal law, was shitposting too hard. He put on such a convincing simulation of retardation that it was even able to fool highly-trained 80 IQ child-molesting government employees. Just as Socrates was perhaps the greatest of the Athenians, SIGSEGV was perhaps the greatest of the Kiwis. I sure hope his life is, uh, somehow recoverable.
He is probably being traded back and forth for packs of cigarettes between black dudes at this very moment.
 
tbqh fam, As one of the 2019 joiners, I was only an A&H poster because I have something to contribute/say there. I mostly lurk lolcow threads because I have nothing to add and I respect the work people put in (I lurked them pre-2019 as well). If it wasn't for the NZ shooting, I wouldn't have joined.

If I were to be banned along with all other 2019-2020 joiners, I would understand. I'd just go back to lurking the way I was before. The lulz would not stop because I was gone. And I doubt some of the spergs I've seen lately would be too devastating of a loss, either.
Same boat. Joined super late despite listening to Null's podcast for as long as it's been around because I had very little to add. I only joined mostly for SS13. Don't care if I get purged since I can still read the threads I lurked anyways and then play SS13 to mass produce monkey meat.
I respect all the work Null puts into keeping this shitty raft afloat. If the new wave of refugees are simply too much to handle then I don't mind being deported.
 
Not sure if anyone else has also said anything along these lines and I can't think of any good way to elaborate, but the fact that SIG moved onto Kengle's bootleg fucking site of all places and did so nigh immediately after his ban tells me maybe he didn't know what he was doing here half the time to say the least.
 
Man, I'm gonna miss SIGSEGV. Guy was a fun poster, but that really wasn't smart of him, and Josh did what he had to do. Can't say I blame him. Hope Sig is a proper pain in the ass for the feds that interview him, and that he gets off clean after thoroughly wasting their time.

The only thing about all of this that I hate is adding that stupid fucking "in minecraft" thing. It's absolutely revolting, like having to explain a joke after the fact to an audience of retarded seals so they can 'get it'. If you have to go about it that way, better to just not make any joke threat at all, because no matter how funny you think your post is going to be, the moment you tack on that little addition, it pretty much turns it to instant cringe and makes you look like a faggot.
He better come back and tell us all about it.

Maybe do a Q&A afterwards.
 
No, they're just not retarded enough to get themselves v& by posting an internet bully site. I support Null's policy of banning people calling for violence, even if the calls don't fit the fed's criteria for involvement.
But people who are so mad that A&N exists they start crossing lines are true cancer. Also look at how many people were upset that sig specefically got banned, despite knowing what he did
Yes, the users who explicitly state they "don't give a shit" about lolcows and want to use the site to "fight the Jews and niggers" aren't the cancer killing the site, it's the users that want them gone! What a brilliant deduction, let's just delete the entire Lolcow subforum while we're at it.
 
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