TopTierHealer
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But this is from the kind of person who thinks Gertie the Dinosaur and Clutch Cargo will be around forever because zoomers mentioned it once in one of his alchohol-induced fever dreams, yet James Bond isn't a relevant IP despite its most popular movie coming out in 2012 and its most recent movie grossing almost a billion - more than Captain America, Thunderbolts, Elio and Snow White combined. Hell his logic could be turned around on him: clearly Snow White is liked because of its IP and thus they should've acknowledged it wasn't relevant and made it exactly like the original for the nostalgia points. Give us a fully white Snow White and have her get rescued by a Prince, it's what Disney WANTS to make but libs are forcing them not to.
I just don't understand what is so irrelevant about a franchise that established every spy trope, was originally a book series that was a character study of a government-sponsored hitman who mused on his own flaws and views without using gadgets and has one of the best action movie formulas you could imagine... other than the fact that political correctness and franchise expectations that you can't make a standalone film anymore stops them from making them how they used to. but his idea that people are clamboring for Oddjob and Scaramanga is one of the weirdest things he's ever said. People have no real love for them outside "that was a great henchman", they're not franchise carriers. they're video game cameos at best, Bond has no rogues gallery because he's a killer
He seems to think that "it's stupid to make it relevant, just make a brand/IP" as if brands and IPs don't run out of money if they're not relevant to new consumers. Bob outright contradicts himself by saying it needs to market to young men, but that's the reason WHY they're trying to reinvent it: the IP and formula needs to sell to young men to stay afloat, with the product tie ins and merch, but young men aren't into it yet aside from their dad or grandad getting them into it at a young age and the old men who were Gen 0 are dropping off like flies. He has this bizarre relationship with time and culture, he thinks there's this static amount of people that will always be into something. How young men aspire to be the kind of people who are now fat, bald 60 year olds or bugmen? His plan would backfire as soon as he realizes that most younger Bond fans aren't Goldfinger fans, but Living Daylights, Casino Royale, Skyfall or GoldenEye fans that you are throwing money away by not appealing to in favor of geriatric Connery loyalists. There are aspects of the franchise that younger generations latch onto, and if you can bottle that and sell it you'd find zoomies actually do like Bond they just don't like the shitty Bourne knock off or campy kind of Bond.
Bond discussion - I know I'm very late to the party but you're asking the right questions: how do you get people to like James Bond any more? Start with who was James Bond for in the begining: Baby Boomers. The generation that had everything they could ever want and were present in the most prosperous time western civilization ever had. They had full trust in the governments that facilitated their lifestyles so seeing the super-agent that protects their way of life doing super secret spy stuff was something they would be into.
Now ask yourself, who in 2025 is rooting for their govermnet? Zoomers are well aware that government spooks are not your friends and whatever the CIA, MI6, whatever get their hands on it will make life worse for you and your loved ones. If you made Tomorrow Never Dies in 2025, Bond would be saving the selfless Not-Zukerberg from those dastardly evil Russian Trolls and disinformation agents. Turns out, Blofeld was friends with Bond all along.
And there were attempts at the spy genre in the past decade: take a look at Kingsman...which went to shit after the first movie; take a look at Arguile which was garbage from the begining. You can't portray a state-sponsored hitman as a good guy any more because the world really has moved on. Most of the movies relied on the idea that a singular bad guy wants to do one singular evil thing that will threaten you and your loved ones and only the martini-drinker can save you because Big Brother loves you...well, it's something the average zoomie just won't buy. No matter how many cool toys you show them on screen.
What have zoomers lived through? The financial crises, endless middle east war (which the west lost, mind you), covid, the nanny state. All of it enabled by the guys on top. Who do you think would resonate more with the average 18 year old? James Bond or Johnny Silverhand?
I say retire Bond for good, it's a relic from a different era for a different breed of people.
Bob's ideas on how to market Bond are AI-tier. Not being ironic, AI works by mashing together existing IP's until you get something with 2 degrees of separation. Isn't that Bob's entire creative output? "X meets Y, but in SPAAAAACE (ok, that was tomlinson)". Bob has to be performative regarding AI but if he gets a new capeshit show every 3 days he will die happy. He doesn't care about art, he just need slop to lap and ask for more.
I don't know if I'd ever like to meet the guy who spends every day in anticipation of the next MovieBob video. I mean in a genuine way. I suppose I am in a morbidly curious way. The Cinema Roberto superfan who has been there since the beginning. I wonder what that person is like? They would have to be a bigger loser than MovieBob to like any of his opinions. Because no one looks at the fat man whose face is caving in on itself, lives in his mom's basement and eats culinary horrors as anyone who's opinion you should take seriously.
The faggots with the Daffy Duck and Red Mage pfp's. Those are bob's ballwashers and they are untermenschen/lumpenproletariat, call them whatever you want.