Body Armor Thread

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Procrastinhater said:
As far as body armor goes, level 3 is enough imo. Not many people walking around with black tips and if you're in a situation where people are firing shit at you level 3 won't stop you're pretty much fucked. I don't think level 4 is worth the extra cost.
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If you’re going to get body armor you’re relying it for your life, best not skip out and get lvl iv.

Having said that my plates just collect dust. I might toss them on for calisthenics or hill sprints, maybe a 2 gun competition if I hate myself that day, but other than that they just sit in my closet. When I hear a bump in the night I’ll grab my helmet which has nods and ear pro with my rifle and shoulder sling a chest rig (has extra mags and medical) to check it out. Even with the tube system it’s still cumbersome to get on in a hurry and that time could be spent on other things like setting up angles down a hallway for an ambush if I think it’s serious.

It’s nice to have plates in theory but honestly it would not be my go to purchase on a hierarchy of gear needs.
 
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Stackbodiesbro said:
Not all level III armor is created equal. Just because it is rated to stop 7.62×51 doesn't mean it can stop the most common rifle round in America 5.56. Make sure to get armor rated for stopping 5.56 above all else for rifle rated threats.
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Absolutely. 5.56 (and 9mm I guess) are the most likely things to be flying at you.
If it won't stop 5.56 you might as well not be wearing it (obviously anything is better than nothing).
AncientPhosphur said:
If you’re going to get body armor you’re relying it for your life, best not skip out and get lvl iv.

Having said that my plates just collect dust. I might toss them on for calisthenics or hill sprints, maybe a 2 gun competition if I hate myself that day, but other than that they just sit in my closet. When I hear a bump in the night I’ll grab my helmet which has nods and ear pro with my rifle and shoulder sling a chest rig (has extra mags and medical) to check it out. Even with the tube system it’s still cumbersome to get on in a hurry and that time could be spent on other things like setting up angles down a hallway for an ambush if I think it’s serious.

It’s nice to have plates in theory but honestly it would not be my go to purchase on a hierarchy of gear needs.
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Lol I felt that about trying to run competitions in summer carrying that shit.
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And yeah, I mean people fought WWI without any body armor at all, its nice to have but in an emergency you're better being ready than getting killed trying to stuff plates in. Its nice to have but its bottom of the list. Making sure you have lead going back the other way is a priority.
 
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Remember when Hoplite Armor sold those based UN helmet targets...

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Regarding the purchase of armor, as sexy as it is, I think its one of those areas people really think they need to get into, without realising it should really be one of the last purchases you make if youre concerned with prepping/shtf scenarios. Youre far more likely to need food, water, meds, spare parts, navigation equipment, ammo etc etc before you go and dump 500+ shekels on a plate carrier and LV4s. All the time I see guys wanting to get armor for their 5 foot 3 wife and 3 year old, bruh, if they are in a situation where they are taking gunfire youve already lost. Armor should be a consideration for sure, but one of latter ones after alot of other bases are covered imo. I would put it into the same category as thermals/NVGs, a kestrel, SPR rifle build, etc.
 
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VorpalAnvil- said:
Regarding the purchase of armor, as sexy as it is, I think its one of those areas people really think they need to get into, without realising it should really be one of the last purchases you make if youre concerned with prepping/shtf scenarios. Youre far more likely to need food, water, meds, spare parts, navigation equipment, ammo etc etc before you go and dump 500+ shekels on a plate carrier and LV4s. All the time I see guys wanting to get armor for their 5 foot 3 wife and 3 year old, bruh, if they are in a situation where they are taking gunfire youve already lost. Armor should be a consideration for sure, but one of latter ones after alot of other bases are covered imo. I would put it into the same category as thermals/NVGs, a kestrel, SPR rifle build, etc.
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You are prepping to survive societal collapse, I'm prepping to last a little bit longer from a government raid. We are not the same.
 
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A thing to consider about the whole fed raid scenario is that if the feds really want to take out some high value target, they're just going to bomb, burn down, or gas the whole place rather than send a team into a possible trap. Or track the target using a loitering observation drone and nab them outside.

My recommendation is to get a sturdy soft armor carrier with good level IIIA armor coverage first, then add plates later. Bonus points if it's covert enough to be worn under clothes slick. Even in Ukraine now they're prioritizing more soft armor coverage and lighter UHMWPE level III plates over heavier level IV plates. Their threat profile is drones and artillery, but for civilians it would mostly be against pistol-toting urbanites and methhead IEDs, so it works either way. Don't forget the cock flap, bros.
 
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Napoleon III said:
I plan to get cheap and effective plates that will cover most of my body in case I'm ever in a home invasion or similar situation. Something I can put on in a couple minutes that will provide me with a lot of protection.
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Get a onesie of some kind, or a jumpsuit. Replace, or add kevlar and standard shapes (you can probably use A3 or A4 paper as a basis) - then keep it in some kind of brace, so you can hop into your little battlesuit in less than 30 seconds.
 
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Does anyone here run a plate carrier and a chest rig or just put everything on the PC? I already have a rig I like (condor recon with camelbak) and I'm about to get a plate carrier. I was considering a low vis carrier so I can just wear the rig over it.

Also while I'm here is ar500 armor really that bad after a spall guard and trauma pad?
 
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I've done some done some beaching work for law enforcement, Really small time stuff. I felt 2A with a actinium trauma plate would realistically accomplish anything any other armor would. If they have a carbine 5.56 nd a 30 round Pmag I don't think body armor is going to do much good. Impact to the face or femoral artery and my chances of survival are low. Unless I'm breaching doors once a week I never saw a point to going heavier than the most common pistol cartridge.
 
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Clostridium Botulinum said:
Does anyone here run a plate carrier and a chest rig or just put everything on the PC? I already have a rig I like (condor recon with camelbak) and I'm about to get a plate carrier. I was considering a low vis carrier so I can just wear the rig over it.
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It's definitely doable. Maybe not a comfy as just having everything on the carrier. However, if you're going to wear that rig over a carrier, I'd seriously consider getting an H-harness, because an X-harness over a carrier very likely isn't going to be comfortable.

Clostridium Botulinum said:
Also while I'm here is ar500 armor really that bad after a spall guard and trauma pad?
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Don't get steel armor. It's heavy and those spall coatings are trash. Get ceramic plates.
 
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Clostridium Botulinum said:
Does anyone here run a plate carrier and a chest rig or just put everything on the PC? I already have a rig I like (condor recon with camelbak) and I'm about to get a plate carrier. I was considering a low vis carrier so I can just wear the rig over it.

Also while I'm here is ar500 armor really that bad after a spall guard and trauma pad?
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Yes I have in the past it's annoying and often done as a option to quickly don or doff your rug while maintaining your armor. Unless you have a specific need for such a thing I'd highly recommend against doing it. Now adays you can easily get a plate carrier that can quickly accept panels and chest rigs that integrate directly into the carrier. So they concept of rig over slick is kinda a dead one.

Also condor gear is airsoft tier trash. And read my OP about AR500 armor.

Also should I make an OP and thread for nylon gear? There is a ton of shit gear flying around these days.
 
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Stackbodiesbro said:
Also should I make an OP and thread for nylon gear? There is a ton of shit gear flying around these days.
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Might as well, if for no other reason than to have discussion of plate carriers, chest rigs, belts, packs, pouches, etc. centralized in one thread.
 
VorpalAnvil- said:
Remember when Hoplite Armor sold those based UN helmet targets...
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Did this company just get bought by someone?

WTF is half this shit?
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I don't ever remember "GOV QUOTES" being a part of their site, ever.

And the rest of it looks like junk from the clearance section of Infowars
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