Boeing Troubles - One of the world's largest aerospace manufacturers keeps having problems with their planes.

It's also worth pointing out that this was Boeing reacting to Airbus coming out with the "we put better engines and a bodykit on it" A320neo that was poised to sell like a billion units (and apparently had more care put into its development). Boeing had to do something to get a slice of the pie and prevent the traditional American operators from buying dirty foreign planes by the hundreds, hence the MAX being rushed to market.
Yep.

The A320 design is about 25 years newer than the 737.

The other issue was that the 787 was a gigantic leap forward but it had a huge amount of brand new tech in it, leading to delays and cost overruns.


Those pushed the 737 replacement back from the late 2010s/early 2020 to the 2030s.....

Hence 737 MAX
Their whole business model of flying in wings and shit from Japan, instead of building them at one factory also seems kinda retarded.
That was to lock in the entire Japanese passenger jet market.

It almost worked too.
Wasn't the software issue with the MAXs something completely asinine like it only pulling data from instruments on one side of the plane without cross referencing instruments on the other side which caused the MCAS to repeatedly pitch the nose down? I remember hearing that from the guys working on them at the time. Completely pants on head retarded.
Yes, a single point of failure and the Ethiopian jet had a damaged sensor
Didn't the computer code that caused that plane crash hired exclusively by pajeets? I think there is pointless arguments whether it's DEI or general cost cutting but in the end it's the same root cause of removing high quality white jobs for money.
Some parts of MCAS were outsourced lol
 
Didn't the computer code that caused that plane crash hired exclusively by pajeets? I think there is pointless arguments whether it's DEI or general cost cutting but in the end it's the same root cause of removing high quality white jobs for money.
The rumor goes that it was outsourced to a code mill located in India, which has entirely different implications compared to inhousing it to a team of pajeets (more about money, less about muh diversity).
 
Anyone want to make predictions on the next Boeing related incident? Whether it's on the ground like a whistleblower getting shot or in the air in form of another airframe failure? My prediction is that near the end of March, there will be a ground incident involving a Boeing airplane.
 
The NYT reported earlier today that an audit conducted initially in January and recently concluded by the FAA found that Boeing failed 33 of 89 tests. (Archive) Regarding Spirit Aerosystems products, only 6/13 passed the audit. No specific findings about the failures have been released to the public as of yet, due to the investigation over the Alaska Airlines door plug incident being ongoing.

In another instance, the F.A.A. saw Spirit mechanics apply liquid Dawn soap to a door seal “as lubricant in the fit-up process,” according to the document. The door seal was then cleaned with a wet cheesecloth, the document said, noting that instructions were “vague and unclear on what specifications/actions are to be followed or recorded by the mechanic.”
One audit at Spirit that focused on the door plug component found five problems. One of those problems, the presentation said, was that Boeing “failed to provide evidence of approval of minor design change under a method acceptable to the F.A.A.” It was not clear from the presentation what the design change was.
Because this is what you want to see when you're touring the supposed hallmark of American aviation.
 
Anyone want to make predictions on the next Boeing related incident? Whether it's on the ground like a whistleblower getting shot or in the air in form of another airframe failure? My prediction is that near the end of March, there will be a ground incident involving a Boeing airplane.
I mean there have been three such incidents since Friday.
 
It's a lie at worst and heavily exaggerated at best. To quote myself like a faggot:

December 2023


There was a thread a few weeks back about how air travel would be limited and banned in the UK. Only airports in the 4 capital cities would be allowed to stay open.

This comes on the back of the idea last year that the French can't take domestic flights anymore.

The grip on travel is tightening. Plebs will not be allowed to travel; be it via air or eventually, outside of their 15 minute-cities.

Who were the first group to be mandated at taking the coof jab? Federal workers.

August 2023


They don't want you travelling and they don't want you flying.

A UK Government report lays out why all airports should be net zero by 2040. The solution is to close down all but the major airports; Heathrow (London, England), Glasgow (Scotland) and Belfast (Northern Ireland)

THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO TRAVEL OR FLY. 15 minute cities, carbon taxes and outright fear tactics will be used to STOP YOU FROM TRAVELLING.

Sorry for the caps. I just want people to keep an eye for this bullshit.
 
Anyone want to make predictions on the next Boeing related incident? Whether it's on the ground like a whistleblower getting shot or in the air in form of another airframe failure? My prediction is that near the end of March, there will be a ground incident involving a Boeing airplane.
This happened last Thursday. The wheel came off right after takeoff and crashed into the parking lot.
 
Allegedly airbus has offered a bunch of carriers sweet deals to free up some slots for United.
United Airlines chief executive Scott Kirby acknowledges that the US carrier is considering a potential order of Airbus A321neos to replace previously ordered Boeing 737 Max 10s – certification of which remains in limbo.

During the JP Morgan Industrials Conference on 12 March, Kirby said shifting to A321neos is possible – but only if “we get a deal where the economics work”.

He says United is considering that option due to delays to the 737 Max 10’s certification, and Boeing’s related production and quality issues.

“As much as I would like those deliveries, this is not a 12-month issue,” Kirby adds of Boeing. “This is a two-decade issue.”

The carrier currently has six A321neos in service and 174 more on order, according to Cirium fleets data. It holds orders for nearly 350 737 Max, including hundreds of Max 10s.


United’s deals with Boeing call for 80 737 Max 10 deliveries this year, 71 in 2025 and 126 in the following years through 2033. But with certification of the largest variant of Boeing’s next-generation narrowbodies likely pushed into 2025, United recently removed those jets from its fleet plan.

“We’ve asked Boeing to stop building Max 10s for us and build Max 9s,” Kirby says. “If and when the Max 10 gets certified, we’ll convert them back to Max 10s.”

“The Max 10 is out for us until it’s certified.”

The Chicago-based carrier is expecting more than 100 fewer Boeing aircraft deliveries in 2024 than contractually agreed. In a 29 February regulatory filing, United said it expected Boeing to deliver 63 aircraft to it in 2024, rather than the 165 it had previously counted on.


“I am encouraged with the following at Boeing – I think they have accepted that there are larger changes that they need to make,” Kirby says. “It’s probably an overused term, but they need to go slow to go fast. What that means is that, this year, deliveries are going to be way behind what they expected originally.”
 
Besides cost cutting measures, how much of the issues are caused by anti global warming "improvements" and absolutely filling planes with electronics? You'd think just remaking the same half century old plane will be enough

Don't forget "lets put on twice that big engine for 0,00001% fuel effectiveness" for less fuel money and carbon.
 
Besides cost cutting measures, how much of the issues are caused by anti global warming "improvements" and absolutely filling planes with electronics? You'd think just remaking the same half century old plane will be enough
Don't forget "lets put on twice that big engine for 0,00001% fuel effectiveness" for less fuel money and carbon.
There is a Wikipedia page that tracks the orders.


Refer to the "Orders and deliveries by year" section. The decision to redesign the 737 again came as the result of outside pressure in 2011.
American Airlines, one of Boeing’s best customers. American had only bought Boeing planes and that for decades. But that was about to end, They were preparing to place a massive order with Airbus for a fleet of new A320neos.

One issue was the fuel efficiency, since Boeing promised that the new plane would be able to match the fuel efficiency of the Airbus model. So it played some role, though, if you look at the numbers of orders, Airbus models seemed to be more and more attractive to the usecase of the plane operators.
 
This happened last Thursday. The wheel came off right after takeoff and crashed into the parking lot.
Not a Boeing problem. That's a United maintenance problem. That 777 was mfr'd in 2002. Wheels get changed roughly every 250 cycles. At 2 cycles a day, that's every four months. That wheel has been replaced many, many times since that jet rolled off the assembly line.

Likewise the 777 in Sydney with the hydro leak is also a United maintenance issue.
 
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Not a Boeing problem. That's a United maintenance problem. That 777 was mfr'd in 2002. Wheels get changed roughly every 250 cycles. At 2 cycles a day, that's every four months. That wheel has been replaced many, many times since that jet rolled off the assembly line.

Likewise the 777 in Sydney with the hydro leak is also a United maintenance issue.
So basically avoid United AND Boeing.
Wasn't United the one with the drag queen CEO?
 
I don't think there is any one smoking gun. I think that its a combination of all of the above. DEI policies, Cost cutting measures, off shorting critical work to the Ching Chongs and Pajeets, ridiculous environmental standards, trying to put 21st century technology into 20th century air frames, and above all else the Competency Crisis all of these things cause.

Consider if you will, an Air Traffic Controller telling a Pilot what to do based on what she Googled.

 
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