Brazil's Supreme Court Just Declared War on Free Speech Online - Speech has to preemptively be banned now in Brazil 8 out of the 11 Supreme Court Justices in Brazil Ruled.

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Brazil’s Supreme Court just took a sledgehammer to digital speech. In a landmark ruling, eight of eleven justices voted to make social platforms like X, Facebook, and TikTok directly liable for user content flagged as “hate speech,” “anti-democratic,” or inciting violence; no court order needed.This obliterates Brazil’s prior standard, where platforms acted after judicial orders. Now, they must act preemptively or face legal consequences. The justification? The court claims that stronger intervention is “necessary to protect fundamental rights and democracy.”But here’s the reality: this sets a dangerous precedent for pre-emptive censorship at massive scale. Tech firms are alarmed. Conservative lawmakers are furious. Even the US is watching closely: the Trump administration is weighing sanctions and visa bans for officials like Justice Alexandre de Moraes, who’s already notorious for blocking X in Brazil...


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Brazil’s highest court has handed down a ruling that significantly expands the legal liability of social media companies for content shared by their users, marking a sharp shift toward tighter controls on digital speech in the country.

The decision compels platforms like Facebook, TikTok, and X to swiftly remove posts that contain “hate speech,” incite violence, or promote so-called “anti-democratic acts” as soon as they are flagged, sidestepping the need for a court order.

This controversial judgment, passed by eight of the 11 Supreme Court justices, abandons Brazil’s prior approach, which held platforms accountable only when they ignored judicial orders to take down illegal content.

The court argued that this old standard “is no longer sufficient to protect fundamental rights and democracy,” claiming that more aggressive intervention is necessary.

The move is part of a growing trend in Brazil to clamp down on digital speech under the banner of protecting society, especially youth.

However, many voices warn that this ruling opens the door to dangerous pre-emptive censorship, forcing tech companies to police speech more aggressively than ever.

Conservative lawmakers have already raised alarm bells about the implications.

Tech firms have also expressed deep reservations about the ruling’s fallout.

The Trump administration has signaled it may impose visa restrictions on foreign nationals involved in suppressing speech by US firms and citizens. Secretary of State Marco Rubio recently indicated that sanctions could be considered against Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes, who previously blocked access to X after Elon Musk defied court orders to shut down certain accounts.

At the GlobalFact 12 summit, three top Brazilian officials sought to defend the government’s aggressive regulatory push.

Addressing a gathering of international fact-checkers, Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes, Attorney General Jorge Messias, and Superior Electoral Court President Cármen Lúcia insisted that regulating online content is a necessary safeguard rather than censorship.

De Moraes declared, “We must always repeat that what is not allowed in the real world is not allowed in the digital world,” Poynter reported.

Lúcia drew an analogy between speech regulation and traffic laws, asserting, “Your freedom does not mean to be free to go the wrong way and crash into another car and kill another driver.” Messias likened technology to a tool that can either build or destroy, depending on who wields it.

Yet despite these statements, none of the officials outlined clear mechanisms for how such regulation would work without trampling on basic freedoms. De Moraes, who has played a prominent role in efforts to silence certain political voices and platforms, dismissed self-regulation as a failed experiment. Messias echoed this view, arguing that platforms are incapable of enforcing their own rules effectively.

Their remarks come as Meta, under mounting scrutiny, recently ended its controversial “fact-checking” partnership in the US, with CEO Mark Zuckerberg acknowledging concerns that the initiative had crossed into censorship.
 

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I don't see a problem with this, right-wingers will finally get the oppression they've always craved for.
This isn't a left/right issue at this point. Moraes blocked accounts belonging to the Workers' Cause Party, a far-left party that was split from Lula's Worker's Party. Their crime? Calling him a "skinhead on a robe" who was preparing a coup.
Their accounts were reactivated later, sure, but this is enough evidence that even being a red flag flying, hammer and sickle holding, Marx and Lenin reading schizoid won't save your ass from their claws.
 
This isn't a left/right issue at this point. Moraes blocked accounts belonging to the Workers' Cause Party, a far-left party that was split from Lula's Worker's Party. Their crime? Calling him a "skinhead on a robe" who was preparing a coup.
Their accounts were reactivated later, sure, but this is enough evidence that even being a red flag flying, hammer and sickle holding, Marx and Lenin reading schizoid won't save your ass from their claws.
Sounds like another win for enlightened centrists
 
I don't see a problem with this, right-wingers will finally get the oppression they've always craved for.
What oppression is this?

The Right Wing is about anything but oppression - we're the people who don't care about 'your feelings' or that somebody boo-hoo's when told there's just two genders (because science is real).

Whereas oppression is not just something the Left scream, it's their actual reason to be?

'You want to have independent thoughts - no, my oppression outranks your freedom because you might not agree with me, and that'll give me salty pants...'

I suppose the Right Wing could oppress though - every Lefty dropped in Russian Gulagski's would be oppressive but also part of our DEI.

After all, if certain groups 'need to shut up for the sake of diversity and tolerance', then when the boot is firmly on the other foot your sacrifice (which we'd be willing to make) will be worth it.
 
What oppression is this?

The Right Wing is about anything but oppression - we're the people who don't care about 'your feelings' or that somebody boo-hoo's when told there's just two genders (because science is real).
Their incessant whining proves otherwise.
Whereas oppression is not just something the Left scream, it's their actual reason to be?
True, the left does play the oppression card much harder. I am not sure whether this is worse than the right's current reason to be, which is either "be Trump's bitch" or "do the opposite of whatever the left does".
 
Their incessant whining proves otherwise.

True, the left does play the oppression card much harder. I am not sure whether this is worse than the right's current reason to be, which is either "be Trump's bitch" or "do the opposite of whatever the left does".
Then the Right could equally say:

"be Kamala's bitch" or "do the opposite of whatever the right does".

Either way, it only widens the divide.
 
If Labour Party/Lula wins this next election, then there is truly no fixing that nation because after 4 years of constant failures and record number of poverty, crimes, corrupt and etc and that gang of fuckheads are STILL somehow elected? Then it means that either the voter base is so mentally lost that they deserve slow death by Brazil or/and the fraud is so bad that they voting is just merely flavor dressing ala North Korea.

Everywhere has their own brand of misery but brazillians keep asking for more.

You can thank the boomers for that. A friend of mine described it as poverty levels of India + dysfunction/shitlibbery of Canada. It's so retarded that Brazilians can't even choose NOT to give consent to the system; voting is compulsory.

Well, its boomers that voted the labour party multiple times in a row. The brazillian boomer is a special brand of retarded.

Not that any generations afterwards are that better to be fair.
Thats exactly why they focus on those stupid issues. The real issues are hard to solve and they don't have the balls to solve them, so instead the politicians focus on the easy stuff like lgbt shit to score easy political points.

You are also not considering they are CAUSING those issues so solving the issues of which they are CAUSING would be rather counter intuitive now, wouldnt it?
I live in Argentina and it's the same. People are going broke and poor, but the government bought an f14plane for almost a billion... We are not at war or anything, they just wanted it so they could send it to Ukraine or Israel.

Didnt things at least improve slightly with the new president?
 
>"We don't have drinkable water, working hospitals, a stable economy, functional infrastructure or security, crime is rampant and our cops are corrupt, but promoting lgbt rights, fourth wave feminism and zionism. is what we need to focus on right now."
Always remember that not even hosting the Olympics was enough of an impetus to get Rio de Janeiro to clean up its water supplies.
It's not even the worst quote from her. The one that is getting memed here in Brazil and used as a example of the complete insanity of the court is this one, where she called the population "213 million petty tyrants" who must be stopped from ruling the internet, because "the only sovereign is Brazil and the Brazilian democratic state",
Fucking Dave comes off as less of a lolcow than this chick.
 
If Labour Party/Lula wins this next election, then there is truly no fixing that nation because after 4 years of constant failures and record number of poverty, crimes, corrupt and etc and that gang of fuckheads are STILL somehow elected? Then it means that either the voter base is so mentally lost that they deserve slow death by Brazil or/and the fraud is so bad that they voting is just merely flavor dressing ala North Korea.
There's no way he will win. The Worker's Party knows that they're on their last legs, that's why they and their judges have been so authoritarian lately. Lula's approval rating is of 23.9%. He still wants a FOURTH TERM despite his old age, he might rule up until 2030 if he dares to run next year.
If they fraud, it will be too obvious, it will stain them internationally. Lula has no successor, and all of his followers are nothing but "yes men" to the Great Leader with zero charisma or popularity as well.
If the Great Leader Lula dies, there won't be anyone for them to blindly obey. He fucked up by making his party on his own image, with his "Lulism" ideology. On the other side of the aisle, Bolsonaro is ineligible and the all other alternatives are "less militaristic" and nostalgic for the dictatorship.

2026 will be odd.
>Aging leader clinging to the last vestiges of power as he's dying of old age in front of all of us
>Aging opposition leader can't run
>Ideologically exhausted party with no successors
>Judicial system whose perceived overreach could destabilize its own legitimacy at home and abroad
>Fragmented left wing
>Fragmented right wing
 
I used to think the people who were anti-speech on other forums were just contrarians but they really do cheer for shit like this. And it is definitely about control. The anti-speech crowd don’t want to be called mean words or whatever. They want the whole internet and world to adopt Redditspeak where what you can say outnumbers what you can’t say.
These are the same people who melted down over Musk buying Twitter.
 
The idea that the state is the highest authority, that the state is god, is the foundation of fascist ideology.
No, its a foundational principle of Liberal ideology. The French revolutionaries said the same shit in the 18th century. Fascism is an offshoot of Liberalism just like Communism.

The core tenets of Liberalisn are the Individual as a sovreign entity, the State as the expression of the collective will of all Sovreign individuals the replaces prior forms of legitimacy like birthright, conquest or divine mandate, and the purpose of the collective will being the betterment and benefit of all.

Fascism just takes the State being the expression of the sovreign will and cranks it up to 11, and says they not only is the a State an expression of the sovreign will, but that it is the only possible expression and cannot be wrong definitionally. So to be at odds with the state is to be definitionally criminal.

Its easy for people in Liberal Democracies to accuse their opponents for being "just like the nazis" because Fascism being a liberal ideology itself shares near identical DNA with the political movements in the Liberal Democracies whether they be left wing or right wing.
 
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Whatever people say about musk, we truly must thank him for saving Twitter.

Now, he can double down on this by buying Reddit next.
Some things are best left untouched, Reddit is one of those. It sort of has to exist in the way it does so everyone can just go look at how insane libs are.
 
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