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[SoleniyKraut]

a video last night that was 37 minutes long, but could be summed up in one 3 min section

I have a suspicioun that their inability to condence information stems from how nonsensical or unconnected their arugments are, so they have to stretch their scripts to make it seems serviceable.

 

[Gas Snake]

I have a suspicioun that their inability to condence information stems from how nonsensical or unconnected their arugments are, so they have to stretch their scripts to make it seems serviceable.

3 minutes of actual content, 34 minutes of circular reasons why your common sense reactions to things are actually capitalist/patriarchal brainwashing. Every time. They are just repeating the mind-rapes they themselves experienced in college, like a fag that was molested as a child.

 

[Austim Spergler]

Quoting myself because I just saw an amazing example of this. I opened up my browser with nothing in my history, went to YouTube, watched a single meme clip, and got this recommended to me:

There is no other explanation. The algorithm is designed to push these people and their ideology.

i was about to post this because i got it recommended too and i thought it was somewhat convincing and i wanted to know if anyone here could deboonk it, at least the video is short.

like not even as a bait triggering question like for real what are some valid arguments agaisnt many of the points done in this video, it feels like a lot of mental gymnastics and overcomplication at some parts but the whole point about it not being exactly about chromosomes is a little convincing.

or maybe i am just retarded and easy to persuade.

 

[Qui-Gon's Gin]

i was about to post this because i got it recommended too and i thought it was somewhat convincing and i wanted to know if anyone here could deboonk it, at least the video is short.

like not even as a bait triggering question like for real what are some valid arguments agaisnt many of the points done in this video, it feels like a lot of mental gymnastics and overcomplication at some parts but the whole point about it not being exactly about chromosomes is a little convincing.

or maybe i am just retarded and easy to persuade.

Sex is about real physical differences between people, which even a caveman could see. Making it about chromosomes is a trick that trannies use to confuse people.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Sex is about real physical differences between people, which even a caveman could see. Making it about chromosomes is a trick that trannies use to confuse people.

They're not just trying to confuse people. They're also trying to deceive themselves. Don't forget that crucial part. Half of the act is them pretending that what they have is similar to what a CIS/Het person has.

 

[Rodeo Roadrunner]

i was about to post this because i got it recommended too and i thought it was somewhat convincing and i wanted to know if anyone here could deboonk it, at least the video is short.

I don't see how anything in the video is persuading, since it is just a retread of the same arguments trannies and leftists have been using for years. I didn't sit down and watch the whole thing but I did skim through it.
It has never been about chromosomes

Leftists can't make an argument from science, so they have to try and claim their enemies (the right) are the ones that actually don't care about science. The left has to claim that no, actually, the right are the ones who don't care about chromosomes, they actually care about all these other things, they aren't the ones who care about science. The left only does this because they have no way to make a coherent argument from biological reality, so they have to claim that biological reality isn't real.​

People can be born with XXY chromosomes or intersex so that means biological sex isn't binary

A stupid argument that the video person even concedes. Humans have a binary sex, male and female, and deviations from that are the result of errors in genetics or other mutations that are BAD, not just an 'oh whoopsie'. Klinefelter's syndrome, or intersex people, aren't just people with a deviation, it is a physical handicap and a condition that requires treatment and special management. Same with someone being born blind, or missing limbs, or anything like that. Those are physical disabilities that are the result of bad mutations in genetics, and while someone can certainly live a fulfilling life with one of those conditions, they all require treatment and medical management and intervention to try and help that person. ​

Gender and sex are different things

Gender and sex being separate is a recent invention of the 20th century. They were always synonyms until psychologists decided that they were different things in an academic context. The idea that they are different has retroactively been applied to historical times, places, and events by Western historians and gender activists. The application of this has led to insane rewriting of history from a modern lens, in a 21st century version of "the noble savage", where actually people hundreds or thousands of years ago were more enlightened than we are are today on issues of men and women. ​

Actually, Native Americans had 2-spirit people and aborigines had different interpretations of gender and and...

Interpreting highly unusual and bizarre instances from specific cultures as "transsexual" is a complete reinterpretation of reality from a modern lens, and if you went back in time and told those people that they were transgender they would probably kill you for being possessed by a demon. Complete retelling of history from a specific gender activism lens.​

Transgenders in sports isn't a big deal since there are rules in the Olympics and NCAA sports

Inane reframing of the actual problem at hand. Taking or not taking hormones will not undue adolescence changes in men and women, where men will simply have more muscle mass and stronger bones (not to mention different skeletal structure) and no amount of hormones can change that. Also, only focusing on "muh Olympics" ignores the actual problems of men in women's sports, that has been covered constantly across different sports. I notice the youtube guy didn't bring up any actual cases of this in reality, merely brushing the issue off as "solved" already and the subject of a moral panic by bigots when the reality is there are numerous problems and even more emerging, especially in high school, and other sports that he didn't mention. ​

Gender expression is a spectrum

This is another common falsehood from leftists as well. They want to make a claim that since there are different levels of "masculinity" or "femininity" then that means that there is an entire range of gender and the only 'boundaries' are what is socially acceptable for a society, nothing else. This argument attempts to break down the walls of the binary sex, and claim that it isn't binary at all. They try and attack the binary position by claiming that their opponents will make hard rules for masculinity and femininity, and say "well there are male nurses so that means that gender isn't binary since men and women's jobs can be interchanged!" They set up a straw man of a "hard binary" that has never existed and was never claimed. I can't remember the proper terminology, but sex in humans is a binary modal system. IE, there is a clear binary system, but within each grouping (male and female) there are variations and differences. An analogy would be between chairs and tables. Tables are clearly different from chairs, in design and intended use, though there are similarities (4 legs, flat surface on top, made of wood, etc). A chair or table could be broken (missing leg, cracked surface). There are variations in design across the range, (fewer legs, no legs at all, rocking, etc). You could even use a chair as a table, or vice versa. But everyone can clearly recognize that a table and a chair are different things. ​

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Funny enough this is an ancient problem of philosophy, that of universals and forms. Plato is the one who attempted to solve this problem, and philosophers have been arguing for millennia over these things.

 

[SoleniyKraut]

3 minutes of actual content, 34 minutes of circular reasons why your common sense reactions to things are actually capitalist/patriarchal brainwashing. Every time. They are just repeating the mind-rapes they themselves experienced in college, like a fag that was molested as a child.

That's why I don't even watch most of those videos anymore - you get the gist in the first three or five minutes, and afterwards it's just sludge. I know that one must hear their opposition to understand them - but this is so convoluted most of the time that I don't know if it can be considered arguments.

You pointed out correctly about the mind-rape; They alienate the more moderate audience with this trick, so only leftist extremists like them are left - and then a "community" or section of people with the same opinion forms. Hugbox genesis, so to speak.

 

[Namekian George Floyd]

Actually, Native Americans had 2-spirit people and aborigines had different interpretations of gender and and...
Interpreting highly unusual and bizarre instances from specific cultures as "transsexual" is a complete reinterpretation of reality from a modern lens, and if you went back in time and told those people that they were transgender they would probably kill you for being possessed by a demon. Complete retelling of history from a specific gender activism lens.

Weren't all of those 3rd genders in other cultures just homosexuals? From what I read, it's less them being progressive and more like that one muslim country that forcefully transitions people for being gay because they think same-sex relations are gross.

 

[Surfin Terf]

i was about to post this because i got it recommended too and i thought it was somewhat convincing and i wanted to know if anyone here could deboonk it, at least the video is short.

like not even as a bait triggering question like for real what are some valid arguments agaisnt many of the points done in this video, it feels like a lot of mental gymnastics and overcomplication at some parts but the whole point about it not being exactly about chromosomes is a little convincing.

or maybe i am just retarded and easy to persuade.

I haven't even watched it yet, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that they make the same argument that trannies have been making for a long time, "how can chromosomes really matter when you can't even identify chromosomes without special equipment and it still takes up to two weeks?" or maybe they're arguing that because there are mutations that break the simplified XX or XY dichotomy that we should throw the whole model out...

30 seconds in and he claims that you can't know someone's chromosomes without a karyotype... it's looking pretty bad...
5 minutes later (I had to watch it at 2x because he's even more annoying than I expected) and it's even worse than I thought. It just devolves into pure tranny propaganda without even pretending to be about science.

 

[Chromeo]

Funkyfrogbait just put out a video last night that was 37 minutes long, but could be summed up in one 3 min section:
"Influencers lie to you. They know what the algorithm likes and all their videos are staged to exploit that. My entire 5 minute skit you just watched was staged."

(Bonus cringe at her slipping in her training footage for CC3 @ 25:43)

I'm exhausted with her making longer videos. I like her shorter ones, but goddamn she just doesn't have enough material to stretch her videos that long.

Not sure if this is Breadtube or if I'm late, but I just listened to this while working and while it started out interesting, it kept rubbing me the wrong way. The guy mentions how most child abuse is from people you already know, valid, but then talks about how a lot of it is...from other kids....then says it's bad to mix entertainment and policing...and shits on the police in general...and right at the end he starts thanking Joe Biden and saying predator hunters are too conservative/far-right and just immediately lost me. I didn't think going into this video that I was signing up to listen to some bald soyboy bitch about how the police are the real threat to public safety and pedo hunters are too conservative. It makes me feel like this dude's a pedo himself, which is an easy rebuttal, but....

 

[Billy Idol]

I'm exhausted with her making longer videos. I like her shorter ones, but goddamn she just doesn't have enough material to stretch her videos that long.

Not sure if this is Breadtube or if I'm late, but I just listened to this while working and while it started out interesting, it kept rubbing me the wrong way. The guy mentions how most child abuse is from people you already know, valid, but then talks about how a lot of it is...from other kids....then says it's bad to mix entertainment and policing...and shits on the police in general...and right at the end he starts thanking Joe Biden and saying predator hunters are too conservative/far-right and just immediately lost me. I didn't think going into this video that I was signing up to listen to some bald soyboy bitch about how the police are the real threat to public safety and pedo hunters are too conservative. It makes me feel like this dude's a pedo himself, which is an easy rebuttal, but....

People who have a problem with nonce hunters like Hansen are always suspect. Why do you not want nonces to be caught, huh? Sometimes you need the funding of a TV show to do good deeds like this because the police care very little about taking nonces down without being pushed into it and kids don't tend to report molestation or attempted molestation due to the nonce playbook ("tell anyone and I'll kill your mom/dad/brother/sister/puppy/kitten/etc" "this is normal, all kids your age do it" "you wouldn't want me to go to jail, would you?" or some other shite that kids fall for because they're kids.)

If giving a shite about kids not getting their lives ruined is conservative than call me Margaret fucking Thatcher.

 

[Cactuar King]

Uh oh, looks like younger Gen Z is becoming more chuddy and now we must divide the generation into two separate groups because young people voted for that heckin orange man

Love how this guy keeps saying "its da lockdowns" as if pushing tranny shit and overtly pro-black lives matter shit/rioting didn't also play an impact on this. I can only imagine the hell for many a young zoomer to deal with their nog classmate's entitled asses embolden by an adminstration that bailed out looters during the pandemic era.

 

[Scavenger]

He made a video seething about Cyberpunk Edgerunners for having a single mother in it, a character with a cross necklace never praying, and having mechanically enhanced women fight alongside men. Never trusted his myopic ineptitude. Has anyone told him Russia has holocaust denial laws?

Pax would scream about "Muh Based Japan" even though he has 0 knowledge of the nation and its history.
He scrubbed the anime aesthetic off both his xitter and youtube entirely to be taken more seriously

 

[The Incredible Gassy]

Was Pax the dude that asked people to give him pictures/videos of Gura having sex with black men?

 

[Trollblade69]

Ian Danskin, dumbass, is panhandling for more Patreon money just like James Somerton post-"Hiring prostitutes should be covered as medical expenses" because he couldn't make enough of a living off of bitching about Gamergate to compensate for quitting his job and now owes $100k.

I need to go laugh hysterically for a moment. I'll get the Preservetube link up when I'm done.

EDIT: Got it.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Ian Danskin, dumbass, is panhandling for more Patreon money just like James Somerton post-"Hiring prostitutes should be covered as medical expenses" because he couldn't make enough of a living off of bitching about Gamergate to compensate for quitting his job and now owes $100k.

I need to go laugh hysterically for a moment. I'll get the Preservetube link up when I'm done.

EDIT: Got it.

Philosophytube chimes in.

Seeing people drop a grand on a guy who should by all accounts be prospering irks me. It's even more annoying because 59k of it is due to back taxes I.E. he just never bothered to pay them and it's eating him now. But it doesn't fuckin' matter he messed up because he'll get the slate wiped clean by the limitless pockets (I.E. their parents income) of the Breadtube audience.

Maybe if he did the same schtick but broadly stuck to general fallacies and the sorts of arguments used by those arguing politics but in a bipartisan manner, shit'd be easier at this point. But as a previous video of his mentioned, he doesn't engage with criticism at all because he views it with the same lens a paranoid schizophrenic would, say, some static on the TV.

He also appears to be attempting a pivot to Nebula, focusing on games it looks like with another failed breadtube tranny (who's an actual tranny).

 

[LeChampion1992]

I'm exhausted with her making longer videos. I like her shorter ones, but goddamn she just doesn't have enough material to stretch her videos that long.

Not sure if this is Breadtube or if I'm late, but I just listened to this while working and while it started out interesting, it kept rubbing me the wrong way. The guy mentions how most child abuse is from people you already know, valid, but then talks about how a lot of it is...from other kids....then says it's bad to mix entertainment and policing...and shits on the police in general...and right at the end he starts thanking Joe Biden and saying predator hunters are too conservative/far-right and just immediately lost me. I didn't think going into this video that I was signing up to listen to some bald soyboy bitch about how the police are the real threat to public safety and pedo hunters are too conservative. It makes me feel like this dude's a pedo himself, which is an easy rebuttal, but....

That's skip intro his entire schtick is saying your typical crime drama = Coppaganda and how leftism is the only way forward.

Ian Danskin, dumbass, is panhandling for more Patreon money just like James Somerton post-"Hiring prostitutes should be covered as medical expenses" because he couldn't make enough of a living off of bitching about Gamergate to compensate for quitting his job and now owes $100k.

I need to go laugh hysterically for a moment. I'll get the Preservetube link up when I'm done.

EDIT: Got it.

The lord truly does work in mysterious ways lol.

 

[Trollblade69]

The laughs just keep coming.

I'm curious why Innuendo Studios keeps associating with Contrapoints given he's always bitching about all trannies being secret autogynophiles and is a massive fucking sellout to his own principles.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Crosspost. Lady Emily is doing a stream.

Lindsay will be making another Sarah Z-related charity stream appearance, this time raising money for....Lady Emily to move to Canada. That's it. Her writer/troon wants money to move out of Texas because it's too hostile towards trannies.

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One of the other guests might disappoint a few people here.

 

[Kyria the Great]

I don't ever understand why anyone would give money to someone whose money issues are self inflicted with no family whatsoever. Someone who puts out slop content doesn't deserve this kind of bailout