BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

[Slap47]

Orwell was very much an idealistic that slowly lost his way as time went on. If he didn't smoke a pack a day, he would probably not consider himself a leftist, as you said yourself.


"...given equal levels of economic development" This implies equality is inherently beneficial.

Orwell called himself a "Tory Socialist". He believed in the triumph of middle class values and a cooperation based future.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

More retardation from Vox Gay

https://youtu.be/P0PGRnRdKqM

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Well inequality helped drive competition and the drive to better oneself whether personally, locally, regionally, or nationally. How many times in history as a deemed economic or culturally backwards people conquered a more established one?

It's a rarity in history, that's for certain. Even then, it was often other factors other than technology, economics, or culture that defeated the superior people.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aSeOBz1hR_w
Hunter having a debate with Young Don, a Christian Conservative youtuber.

Ah, haven't heard from Hunter for a while. Seems like he's up to his usual chicanery of "I'm right because I said so" by the looks of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_DBxONDcNs&t=5s Reddit Moment, Virgin Socialist "Anarchist" vs Chad Christian Anarchist.

Meh, he uses pronouns and he’s a leftist. If he was a Christian ancap then it would be based

I don't understand Christian Anarchists. Doesn't the whole point of "Christ is King" kind of dampen the entire Anarchism thing?

 

[DirtyHegel]

It's a rarity in history, that's for certain. Even then, it was often other factors other than technology, economics, or culture that defeated the superior people.


Ah, haven't heard from Hunter for a while. Seems like he's up to his usual chicanery of "I'm right because I said so" by the looks of it.



I don't understand Christian Anarchists. Doesn't the whole point of "Christ is King" kind of dampen the entire Anarchism thing?

I find them respectable, Anarchism is basically Man shouldnt rule Man, meaning rule by a divine entity is fine to them. As an Agnostic I disagree, but they are still respectable

 

[7.5cm STuG III Ausf. G]

New Contrapoints just dropped.

Spoiler

The YouTube -> Video Essayist -> BreadTube -> trans pipeline is real.

 

[Kyria the Great]

One broad question I have to ask for Breadtube in general is, why do they think that supporting Communism/Socialism/ Anarcho-leftism/etc, will usher in this flowering of great art and culture when history has shown us quite the opposite?

 

[Procrastinhater]

This is flamenco's chance to bang Lani.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

One broad question I have to ask for Breadtube in general is, why do they think that supporting Communism/Socialism/ Anarcho-leftism/etc, will usher in this flowering of great art and culture when history has shown us quite the opposite?

I think they'd reject your premise the same way they do with those systems' economic failures.
Academics and the like seem to gravitate to those systems because it overvalues their contributions. How many communists have you met that want to make $70k+/yr off the arts? How many of those artists are first chair? How many are laborers in factories? How many are petite bourgeois? This thread has discussed why they gravitate towards these systems ad nauseam and their response to your question may be influenced by that. ex. Deviant Ollum claimed the time period he most wants to experience is Weimar Germany because it was at the height of art in his opinion. Ollum may just want to consume drugs and child prostitutes, though.
If you get an answer offsite, I'd be interested in reading it. I think you may get different answers from breadtube/discord and academics.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

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For what one? Both are too old for each other

 

[Computer Guardian]

New Suris, here he explains how he went from a "Chud" (Not the Medikour Kind) to what could best be described as the next Incel to Trans pipeline example.

 

[Claus]

It's a rarity in history, that's for certain. Even then, it was often other factors other than technology, economics, or culture that defeated the superior people.


Ah, haven't heard from Hunter for a while. Seems like he's up to his usual chicanery of "I'm right because I said so" by the looks of it.



I don't understand Christian Anarchists. Doesn't the whole point of "Christ is King" kind of dampen the entire Anarchism thing?

Dorothy Day is probably the most famous Christian anarchist here in the states. She was Catholic, however she strongly opposed communism and the lifestyle of sexual liberation most other anarchists since Goldman have pursued here in the states. She was influenced by Proudhon's mutualism, as well as distributism, an economic and political system based on Catholic social teaching as well as the previously stated mutualism that opposes both communism/state socialism and corporate capitalism. Various Anabaptist and dissident protestant groups can also be described as Christian anarchist (Such as the Diggers in England or the German Peasant Revolts, however they were more communistic than Day and wanted the total abolition of private ownership, whilst they were still very socially conservative, being Anabaptists

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1xdzUPTMGO0New Suris, here he explains how he went from a "Chud" (Not the Medikour Kind) to what could best be described as the next Incel to Trans pipeline example.

I assume he was your standard center right edgelord and went over to Breadtube because it was a big thing and they go wherever the money and attention is to grift. None of these grifters with this story like Faraday, Xanderhal, or Suris where ever dissident right. Once you really get into the dissident right, there really isn't any going back, unless you are forced to hide your views because of family, work or similar things

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

I find them respectable, Anarchism is basically Man shouldnt rule Man, meaning rule by a divine entity is fine to them. As an Agnostic I disagree, but they are still respectable

Understandable.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1xdzUPTMGO0New Suris, here he explains how he went from a "Chud" (Not the Medikour Kind) to what could best be described as the next Incel to Trans pipeline example.

So what I'm gathering is that he was a "SJWs get owned" type of guy that went to BreadTube due to BreadTube becoming more popular? Typical grifter, going for the big prize while never staying true to their supposed ideals.

Funnily enough, his recent videos seem to be stagnating.

Only one of his videos cracked 20k views going up to last year when he has around 40k subscribers. That's a terrible views-to-subs ratio if I ever saw one.

Dorothy Day is probably the most famous Christian anarchist here in the states. She was Catholic, however she strongly opposed communism and the lifestyle of sexual liberation most other anarchists since Goldman have pursued here in the states. She was influenced by Proudhon's mutualism, as well as distributism, an economic and political system based on Catholic social teaching as well as the previously stated mutualism that opposes both communism/state socialism and corporate capitalism. Various Anabaptist and dissident protestant groups can also be described as Christian anarchist (Such as the Diggers in England or the German Peasant Revolts, however they were more communistic than Day and wanted the total abolition of private ownership, whilst they were still very socially conservative, being Anabaptists

I've heard of Day before. She's not too bad considering I do agree with Distributism and consider myself as such. Plus the fact she isn't a complete psycho when it comes to social issues. Still, I do believe that men should rule over men since to quote James Madison, "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." Also I find it funny how the German Peasant Rebels were influenced by Martin Luther even though Luther himself said they should be slaughtered like rabid dogs. Ironic.

 

[Otis Boi]

Only one of his videos cracked 20k views going up to last year when he has around 40k subscribers. That's a terrible views-to-subs ratio if I ever saw one.

That seems pretty typical for a channel that upload near constantly like that. The Quartering tends to sits at 10% or less while others can't even break 5%

 

[Kyria the Great]

Something i notice in especially the comments of alot of Breadtube videos is the fallacy that somehow the "Capitalist System" is holding them back from whatever their true dream job is and once it is broken, then they can achieve whatever their heart desires. The ultimate problem goes down to who is actually stopping them from achieving their dream? Hell if someone has the will and skill you can work in highly prestigious Aero-space firms, NASA, go into the armed forces for life and be set, work a hum drum safe office job, etc... Usually outside of familiar or societal abuse and/or genuine financial infeasability, the only one truly stopping it from happening is yourself. Whether through not being smart enough, not being talented enough, to especially not putting in enough effort, the greatest enemy of true greatness is oneself.

The fact that so many will believe that some form of government will somehow magically fix that deeply personal problem I find rather troubling that we as a society are failing so many to give into the cheap temptations of radical groups. This is why Breadtube targets the youth so aggressively and why it must be called out for what it is, blatant propaganda, that will ensure that none of their dreams will come true and be left not the master of their own destiny and just be a slave to an uncaring state that would just as easily shove them into the frontlines ill-equipped to fight the enemy just as it is to put them into a dangerous mine to likely die within 15 years.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Something i notice in especially the comments of alot of Breadtube videos is the fallacy that somehow the "Capitalist System" is holding them back from whatever their true dream job is and once it is broken, then they can achieve whatever their heart desires. The ultimate problem goes down to who is actually stopping them from achieving their dream? Hell if someone has the will and skill you can work in highly prestigious Aero-space firms, NASA, go into the armed forces for life and be set, work a hum drum safe office job, etc... Usually outside of familiar or societal abuse and/or genuine financial infeasability, the only one truly stopping it from happening is yourself. Whether through not being smart enough, not being talented enough, to especially not putting in enough effort, the greatest enemy of true greatness is oneself.

The fact that so many will believe that some form of government will somehow magically fix that deeply personal problem I find rather troubling that we as a society are failing so many to give into the cheap temptations of radical groups. This is why Breadtube targets the youth so aggressively and why it must be called out for what it is, blatant propaganda, that will ensure that none of their dreams will come true and be left not the master of their own destiny and just be a slave to an uncaring state that would just as easily shove them into the frontlines ill-equipped to fight the enemy just as it is to put them into a dangerous mine to likely die within 15 years.

Agreed just not everyone is a genius. Don't white people have the right to be mediocre and live a decent life in their own countries that they and their ancestors built?

Instead of bringing in boatloads of Pajeet Engineers and Doctors who have no qualms about cheating to obtain their professional designations and accreditations.

 

[School of Fish]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1xdzUPTMGO0New Suris, here he explains how he went from a "Chud" (Not the Medikour Kind) to what could best be described as the next Incel to Trans pipeline example.

Isn't this the same tranny Leftoid that got mad at Rev says desu (a popular anime Youtuber) because Rev made a video about her before where he made fun of Suris for being a dumb Leftoid over vtubers and anime tropes for that matter?

Besides, it's the same fucking story that we've heard from most of these so-called "Reformed Right-Wingers" before, "I was an edgy Right-Winger in my youth and got indoctrinated and brainwashed by the big skinky poopoo Alt-Right but thanks to the luaghable grifters over at Breadtube, I'm now indoctrinated and brainwashed with Left-Wing politics instead; I'm such a good person!"

It's been said before but most of these people (back when the Alt-Right and the Youtube Skeptics used to be popular) got into Right-Wing politics then was because that was the big political trend during that time and Left-Wing politics went down the shitter after New Atheism collapsed. But when political trends started to change and Left-Wing politics became back in fashion, these same people jumped back into Leftist politics again.

I can guarantee that once Breadtube has finally run its course and dies out while both Right-Wing and Libertarian politics surge in popularity again in the aftermath (which is already happening), I'm pretty sure that these same grifters like Suris will then start ditching the Leftist crap and follow whatever will be the new political trend from that point on to stay relevant then.

 

[Claus]

Isn't this the same tranny Leftoid that got mad at Rev says desu because Rev made a video about her before where he made fun of Suris for being a dumb Leftoid over vtubers and anime tropes for that matter?

Besides, it's the same fucking story that we've heard from most of these so-called "Reformed Right-Wingers" before, "I was an edgy Right-Winger in my youth and got indoctrinated and brainwashed by the big skinky poopoo Alt-Right but thanks to the luaghable grifters over at Breadtube, I'm now indoctrinated and brainwashed with Left-Wing politics instead; I'm such a good person!"

It's been said before but most of these people (back when the Alt-Right and the Youtube Skeptics used to be popular) got into Right-Wing politics then was because that was the big political trend during that time and Left-Wing politics went down the shitter after New Atheism collapsed. But when political trends started to change and Left-Wing politics became back in fashion, these same people jumped back into Leftist politics again.

I can guarantee that once Breadtube has finally run its course and dies out while both Right-Wing and Libertarian politics surge in popularity again in the aftermath (which is already happening), I'm pretty sure that these same grifters like Suris will then start ditching the Leftist crap and follow whatever will be the new political trend from that point on to stay relevant then.

Suris and Xanderhal will probably try and become anti woke center/center left in the next few years (Essentially follow Daddy Destiny) so they don't really have to change many of their views but it will appear to retards on both sides that they have seen the light that extremism is bad and that the only acceptable position is the status quo minus the wokeness. (Essentially Sitch and Adam). Say what you will about Destiny, and yes there is a lot wrong with him, but I do have some respect for him because at least he appears to have actual convictions and spends time looking into data and resources to back up said convictions. Meanwhile these children of his are just barnacles who attach themselves to whatever trend is popular in online politics

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Suris and Xanderhal will probably try and become anti woke center/center left in the next few years (Essentially follow Daddy Destiny) so they don't really have to change many of their views but it will appear to retards on both sides that they have seen the light that extremism is bad and that the only acceptable position is the status quo minus the wokeness. (Essentially Sitch and Adam). Say what you will about Destiny, and yes there is a lot wrong with him, but I do have some respect for him because at least he appears to have actual convictions and spends time looking into data and resources to back up said convictions. Meanwhile these children of his are just barnacles who attach themselves to whatever trend is popular in online politics

Xanderhal has already started calling out this next potential political shift change. He will be one of the last ones to go down with the ship of Breadtube. Similar to TJ with the skeptics movement and when he does take the last lifeboat he will be regulated to obscurity like TJ is now

 

[Claus]

Xanderhal has already started calling out this next potential political shift change. He will be one of the last ones to go down with the ship of Breadtube. Similar to TJ with the skeptics movement and when he does take the last lifeboat he will be regulated to obscurity like TJ is now

I mean Contrapoints, PhilosophyTube, and Hbomberguy have essentially moved on from the whole Breadtube thing at this points, so they will survive with and audience and Patreon shekels for years to come. They've distanced themself from the cesspool they is the lefty debate bro sphere (Xanderhal, Vaush, Keffels, Demonmama) and acting like they are above it all. The whole debate bro Sphere is gonna die out very hard, and all of those associated with it are going down with the ship. As for the lefties who actually go over leftist theory and ideas (Thoughtslime, Noncompete, Hakim, Bad Empanada), they essentially exist in their own sphere and have fallen out with the latter two sectors because they see them as bourgeoisie liberals. Breadtube itself has been fractured for quite a while. The only thing that unified them was the former domination of the skeptics/alt light on YouTube and the evil orange Man

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

Something i notice in especially the comments of alot of Breadtube videos is the fallacy that somehow the "Capitalist System" is holding them back from whatever their true dream job is and once it is broken, then they can achieve whatever their heart desires. The ultimate problem goes down to who is actually stopping them from achieving their dream? Hell if someone has the will and skill you can work in highly prestigious Aero-space firms, NASA, go into the armed forces for life and be set, work a hum drum safe office job, etc... Usually outside of familiar or societal abuse and/or genuine financial infeasability, the only one truly stopping it from happening is yourself. Whether through not being smart enough, not being talented enough, to especially not putting in enough effort, the greatest enemy of true greatness is oneself.

The fact that so many will believe that some form of government will somehow magically fix that deeply personal problem I find rather troubling that we as a society are failing so many to give into the cheap temptations of radical groups. This is why Breadtube targets the youth so aggressively and why it must be called out for what it is, blatant propaganda, that will ensure that none of their dreams will come true and be left not the master of their own destiny and just be a slave to an uncaring state that would just as easily shove them into the frontlines ill-equipped to fight the enemy just as it is to put them into a dangerous mine to likely die within 15 years.

In their eyes, it's never their fault that their lot in life isn't what they desire. Rather than take responsibility for their actions, they'll attack "Capitalism" and "Alt-Right". The vast majority of BreadTubers seem to have chosen fields that are of low demand and relatively low pay plus the burden of them taking out student loans. Rather than admit to their screw up, they search for other things to blame. This is the main reason they are seen as lolcows, since lolcows often commit to the same dumb things that BreadTubers do themselves and neither group are seemingly aware of their actions.

Isn't this the same tranny Leftoid that got mad at Rev says desu (a popular anime Youtuber) because Rev made a video about her before where he made fun of Suris for being a dumb Leftoid over vtubers and anime tropes for that matter?

Besides, it's the same fucking story that we've heard from most of these so-called "Reformed Right-Wingers" before, "I was an edgy Right-Winger in my youth and got indoctrinated and brainwashed by the big skinky poopoo Alt-Right but thanks to the luaghable grifters over at Breadtube, I'm now indoctrinated and brainwashed with Left-Wing politics instead; I'm such a good person!"

It's been said before but most of these people (back when the Alt-Right and the Youtube Skeptics used to be popular) got into Right-Wing politics then was because that was the big political trend during that time and Left-Wing politics went down the shitter after New Atheism collapsed. But when political trends started to change and Left-Wing politics became back in fashion, these same people jumped back into Leftist politics again.

I can guarantee that once Breadtube has finally run its course and dies out while both Right-Wing and Libertarian politics surge in popularity again in the aftermath (which is already happening), I'm pretty sure that these same grifters like Suris will then start ditching the Leftist crap and follow whatever will be the new political trend from that point on to stay relevant then.

Yeah, grifters are a sad bunch. Always chasing after the money and not their hearts. They're like politicians without boatloads of money and power. Plus I believe that Suris isn't actually a tranny and just has that shitty persona to "own le conservatives".