BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

[H3H3 Podcast Higlights]

There were hardly any Jews in the antebellum south you can just take 10 seconds and look it up.

On Jewgle?

 

[Surfin Terf]

There apparently was a significant Jewish population in Atlanta. A bunch of them left after the Leo Frank case lol.

One of the complaints that the British (well, Gov. James Wright, at least, who then go on to argue during the Revolutionary War that Jews should be expelled from Georgia) had against the American revolutionaries was that they let a Jew (Mordecai Sheftall) be in charge of Savannah's (the capital of Georgia at the time) councils

There were hardly any Jews in the antebellum south you can just take 10 seconds and look it up.

Probably the biggest percentage of them were in Charleston which was and is a small city. There were maybe a couple of hundred making up about 3 percent of the popuation. Most everywhere else they were basically nonexistent, less than 1 percent.

There's just no big Jewish population here and there never has been except for the ones that came down in recent decades to retire.

Not saying that the south was super Jewish, just more Jewish than the north at the time (before the massive waves of Russian and German Jews immigrated to America).

I don't know the figures on the Dutch slave trade but that is undoubtedly bullshit as well since it's always parroted by the same people that say the dumbest shit like Jews were the majority of slave owners in the South.

Again, I'm not saying that Jews were in charge of the Dutch slave trade at any time, just that while only 1% of the Netherlands was Jewish, 2% of Dutch slave ships were owned by Dutch Jews, or something like that. This isn't a claim that I heard from someone who believed that Jews were the main slavers, this was something I dug up while trying to steelman the argument (it was literally the only evidence I found in the so-called "4,000 pages of proof" that some Groyper sent me which was 99.9% irrelevant historical documents). Of course, there simply weren't that many Dutch slave ships, so it was like 3 Jewish-owned slave ships or something.

 

[ProximityThrill]

Has anyone else noticed that Breadtube has gone radio silent on Javier Milei? Could it be because all their predictions about how he was going to destroy Argentina’s economy were wrong on almost every metric (rent rates, inflation, poverty rates)? Do you think le heckin evidence-based Redditors like Vaush and Kyle Kulinski will reevaluate their beliefs now? I won’t hold my breath.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Perhaps trying to pin slavery down to a single specific ethnicity is not the best use of time and energy.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Perhaps trying to pin slavery down to a single specific ethnicity is not the best use of time and energy.

Post-Colonial Theory/Critical Race Theory posit the system oppresses them (victims of slavery/ancestors of slaves/blacks) specifically and even to this day because of their race. Under said parameters of the theory, self-oppression serves no end so it's impossible ergo non-whites can't be racist as racism is an invention of the oppressor (whites) and slavery can't be entirely driven by non-whites as it's paradoxical to the premise so any black/non-white slavery is still on whites since whites profit from it or something.

Yeah it's a pointless, unfalsifiable argument. There's a reason the people arguing these theories sort've disappeared.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Post-Colonial Theory/Critical Race Theory posit the system oppresses them (victims of slavery/ancestors of slaves/blacks) specifically and even to this day because of their race. Under said parameters of the theory, self-oppression serves no end so it's impossible ergo non-whites can't be racist as racism is an invention of the oppressor (whites) and slavery can't be entirely driven by non-whites as it's paradoxical to the premise so any black/non-white slavery is still on whites since whites profit from it or something.

Yeah it's a pointless, unfalsifiable argument. There's a reason the people arguing these theories sort've disappeared.

All word gobbledygook, I'd say for people like this it's far easier just to cut their funding to the point where public universities have to choose between nonsense or having a functional school l. Won't help the IVY leagues where this nonsense comes from and follows but might stem the tide.

 

[whatchamacallit]

It's come to my attention that the founding fathers were actually... le fascist

I think they've really gone off the deep end this time

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

It's come to my attention that the founding fathers were actually... le fascist

I think they've really gone off the deep end this time

This is beyond retarded, fascism was concocted in the early mid century BY TWO SOCIALISTS! The founding fathers were neither Socialist or especially authoritarian.
THE IDEOLOGY ONLY LASTED 20 FUCKING YEARS! But they're retarded and they don't understand any of this.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

This is beyond retarded, fascism was concocted in the early mid century BY TWO SOCIALISTS! The founding fathers were neither Socialist or especially authoritarian.
THE IDEOLOGY ONLY LASTED 20 FUCKING YEARS! But they're retarded and they don't understand any of this.

Fascism lasted a lot longer than just 20 years. Francisco Franco died in 1975.

But it's still impossible for American founding fathers to be fascist, since one of the few characteristics of fascism that is shared by all fascist regimes is some sort of obsession with and mythologization of the nation's past and big part of America's founding was that it was new, without the burden of the past.

 

[H3H3 Podcast Higlights]

White protestants in the South dumbass. That's why most black people today have white protestant surnames. Why ask a stupid question that anyone would know the answer to?

Not an actual argument lmao! Jews can pretend to be white with white names mate.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

But it's still impossible for American founding fathers to be fascist, since one of the few characteristics of fascism that is shared by all fascist regimes is some sort of obsession with and mythologization of the nation's past and big part of America's founding was that it was new, without the burden of the past.

And if you REALLY pay attention to how fascism actually is in practice, it looks more like a right wing variant of progressivism than anything else. There's also the fact that fascists can be plenty contemptuous of things like religion or tradition when it suits them, just like leftists.

The reason why leftists sperg about fascism a lot more often than even rightists sperg about communism or marxism, is for two reasons: One, it's a quick and easy buzzword, and two, narcissism of minor differences.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Not an actual argument lmao! Jews can pretend to be white with white names mate.

Alright dude we get it, you don't like Jews. Time to move on.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

And if you REALLY pay attention to how fascism actually is in practice, it looks more like a right wing variant of progressivism than anything else. There's also the fact that fascists can be plenty contemptuous of things like religion or tradition when it suits them, just like leftists.

In 1930s Japan, fascism was openly viewed as the progressive ideology. But Japanese fascism is a bit weird in general, since it wasn't a popular movement, but was more or less imposed from above. Then again, every fascist regime has its own quirks that mean actually defining the core traits of fascism is tricky.

 

[Moss Monster]

Presumably in reference to the Klein/Jomha shit, leftist Essayist Horses is selling a human skull on his merch store. Don't worry though, guys, this human skull was ethically sourced from the carcass of some poor bastard in India or a pauper cemetery, statistically. That means it's okay for leftists heroes and knights of Karl Marx to profiteer off of this human person's tissues, because he was the unpopular kind of pauper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZfPzKfiSOQ&t=6s

 

[LeChampion1992]

It's come to my attention that the founding fathers were actually... le fascist

I think they've really gone off the deep end this time

What i actually hate is actual marxists like Lenin actually had the great most respect for the american founding fathers.
Like read lenins work on Washington its less he's an evil borgousie and more the first in a line of proletariat leaders to defeat the monarchists.

 

[Kyria the Great]

And if you REALLY pay attention to how fascism actually is in practice, it looks more like a right wing variant of progressivism than anything else. There's also the fact that fascists can be plenty contemptuous of things like religion or tradition when it suits them, just like leftists.

The reason why leftists sperg about fascism a lot more often than even rightists sperg about communism or marxism, is for two reasons: One, it's a quick and easy buzzword, and two, narcissism of minor differences.

Exactly, though I'd argue that Fascism is more of a true Centrist ideology that leans right given it's general contempt for actual culture, tradition, and religion. Ultimately though fascism seemingly is wanting to restore a past glory, it's an enlightenment idea that believes that the state is the ultimate supreme being and would gladly quash local customs if it means a unified vision

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

What i actually hate is actual marxists like Lenin actually had the great most respect for the american founding fathers.
Like read lenins work on Washington it’s less he's an evil borgousie and more the first in a line of proletariat leaders to defeat the monarchists.

There’s a reason why pretty much every country that has gained independence since the USA has used the Declaration of Independence as their model for their own. Probably the most notable communist leader to admire the Founding Fathers was Ho Chi Minh who if I remember correctly the reason he became radicalized was because Woodrow Wilson refused to meet him for demands for Vietnamese independence, but I’m not sure how true that story is.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

What i actually hate is actual marxists like Lenin actually had the great most respect for the american founding fathers.
Like read lenins work on Washington its less he's an evil borgousie and more the first in a line of proletariat leaders to defeat the monarchists.

That's because oldschool Marxists viewed progress as series of incremental improvements that built on each other that would eventually culminate in a classless society.
Modern Breadtube-style Marxists are more interested in using Marxist theory to divide the lower classes and set their elements against each other in order to prop up the ruling oligarchy.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

What i actually hate is actual marxists like Lenin actually had the great most respect for the american founding fathers.
Like read lenins work on Washington its less he's an evil borgousie and more the first in a line of proletariat leaders to defeat the monarchists.

Modern marxists are generally retarded and will shit on small business owners considering them part of the bourgeoisie for some reason. Guess they want corporate communism and the small artisan and brick and mortar stores are the true architects of their capitalist oppression.

 

[Cromwell]

Has anyone else noticed that Breadtube has gone radio silent on Javier Milei? Could it be because all their predictions about how he was going to destroy Argentina’s economy were wrong on almost every metric (rent rates, inflation, poverty rates)? Do you think le heckin evidence-based Redditors like Vaush and Kyle Kulinski will reevaluate their beliefs now? I won’t hold my breath.

They will unironically say some shit like "hurr, well Milei hasn't solved the fundamental problem. If he just embraced real (tm) socialism, then there would be no poverty or rent rates in Argentina" because its a cult.

What i actually hate is actual marxists like Lenin actually had the great most respect for the american founding fathers.
Like read lenins work on Washington its less he's an evil borgousie and more the first in a line of proletariat leaders to defeat the monarchists.

Yeah. Marx even wrote a letter to Lincoln after his re-election.