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The introduction has been rewritten and so has the "Early years" area.
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Brianna_Wu#Early_years

I've tagged some things with {[cite}} but there's more that needs to be cited IMO.

What's sad is that this is a really interesting article when you condense it. She's a complete and total failure.
 
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The introduction has been rewritten and so has the "Early years" area.
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Brianna_Wu#Early_years

I've tagged some things with {[cite}} but there's more that needs to be cited IMO.

What's sad is that this is a really interesting article when you condense it. She's a complete and total failure.
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I've been doing my own work to condense it prior to that. There's a fucking lot that needed cleanup and a lot of shit that was out of date. I managed to cut down the front page to less than half the size it originally was, and by subdivisions I've been able to keep the larger sections to themselves or in subcategories in which they are better suited.

No idea what happened to a lot of the condensing work I had already done; it seems to have been reverted somehow. Pretty much everything below Gamergate had either been subdivided and moved or cropped. Whoever it was basically turned the bottom back into a complete clusterfuck and doubled the length all over again.

It's been way more work than I ever expected. I wish to christ I've been able to do more to help but right now I'm dealing with a ton of IRL shit that has impacted by ability to work on it quite negatively. Apologies.
 
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Don't do it all at once. Just take one section and refurbish it. Or, look at how the excellent Adolf Hitler WP article is organized and just organize information.

The biggest issue is the snark factor. You never want to impose your opinions on the reader in a wiki article. I've noticed you tend to write a sentence like this:
"Despite X, Brianna Wu never did Y."

There's not really any reason to say someone didn't do something when you're being objective. "Hitler never considered how terrible Operation Barbarossa could end for his war effort" is not a pertinent piece of information and is a baseless conjecture. Compare that to these more neutral statements that are given context to make a negative claim.

"Despite objections by his war cabinet, Hitler showed no concern that Operation Barbarossa could fail."
"Although Wu has repeatedly claim to be a journalist and an engineer,<reference> there is no evidence of her ever having graduated."
 
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Don't do it all at once. Just take one section and refurbish it. Or, look at how the excellent Adolf Hitler WP article is organized and just organize information.

The biggest issue is the snark factor. You never want to impose your opinions on the reader in a wiki article. I've noticed you tend to write a sentence like this:
"Despite X, Brianna Wu never did Y."

There's not really any reason to say someone didn't do something when you're being objective. "Hitler never considered how terrible Operation Barbarossa could end for his war effort" is not a pertinent piece of information and is a baseless conjecture. Compare that to these more neutral statements that are given context to make a negative claim.

"Despite objections by his war cabinet, Hitler showed no concern that Operation Barbarossa could fail."
"Although Wu has repeatedly claim to be a journalist and an engineer,<reference> there is no evidence of her ever having graduated."
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Excellent points, all, and duly noted. I'll work on it when time allows, and I thank you for your insight.
 
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@Jaimas can you help me {{cite}} her RNC work and her parent's RNC work?
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On it, commander.

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The first time we got evidence of it was when @Francis York Morgan covered John Flynt's Resume. It's in old Webcite format but we have the original data here. To the best of my knowledge, this was, for years, the only example we had of of Flynt admitting to working as an Intern beyond some links below. Humorously, this year would put him in at around the time Lott was implementing the strangulation strategy. We wouldn't have any additional evidence of Flynt working for Trent Lott (that we've had access to at least) until she admitted it on national television.


Now Wu's parents being big RNC backers? That's easier to cite. First bit of evidence was this one from the Inc.com Interview:

http://www.inc.com/magazine/201504/...why-would-anyone-want-to-kill-brianna-wu.html

Inc.com said:
At Ole Miss, Wu studied journalism and wrote for The Daily Mississippian, but she never graduated. She left school the first time to start her own video animation company, came back, and dropped out for good in 2001 after getting swept up in the excitement surrounding George W. Bush's election as president. Her parents were big donors, and they got her a ticket to an inaugural ball. That led to a stint working in Washington--long enough to become disillusioned with Republican politics as well as dangerously dependent on Ambien, a sleep aid. Her parents, in a final act of support, brought her home to Hattiesburg and paid for a bed at Pine Grove, where Tiger Woods would later be treated for sex addiction.
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He was also covered in the Daily Mississippian segment, and in a video covering that as well.

http://dai.ly/x2960wi

“The first time I met him, I was the opinion editor at The DM [EDITOR’S NOTE: The Daily Mississippian], and I turned to see this creepy fuck standing behind me. I shook his hand, and he pulled it away, saying “oowwww.” He then explained that he’d broken his wrist in a bicycle accident that had almost killed him and had given him amnesia. He explained that he wanted to be a columnist and that he had previously worked for George W. Bush in the white house but that he had since realized how retarded and evil all conservatives were. About this time my phone started ringing, and I politely ignored it while I talked to this guy. Then it rang again, and again until I answered. It was the managing editor, who had ducked behind the front desk and was whispering, “stay calm, and don’t react to this, but this guy isn’t supposed to be here. He has a restraining order. Get rid of him.” By this point, I was concerned the guy might knife me at any moment; so I told him to write me three columns and that I’d evaluate them and get back to him on whether he could write for me. (I’m still proud of my ability to remain poised and convincingly pretend that the dm had any fucking standards.)

Turns out, a year prior, he’d come in wanting the dm to run a comic strip that he was doing. When he was told they weren’t interested, he flipped out. He called one of the workers a fat dyke, and when Dr. Husni came to her defense, he called him a “raghead” and a “sand nigger.” They got a restraining order to keep him away from Farley, but when they moved to Bishop, it no longer applied, and he was actually able to weasel back in to working for the SMC.”
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Flynt further talks about his career in fundraising for Lott in an article on Newsdisrupt:

http://newdisrupt.org/blog/2014/7/2...-amanda-warner-and-brianna-wu-episode-84.html

It's in podcast format, because of fucking course it is.

She also talks about her work for the republican party frequently on her own website:

http://www.briannawu.net/#/about/

At the age of 23, she decided to move to DC and work in politics for the Republican party — despite having no job leads. She threw everything she owned in her car and kept applying until she found work doing constituent services and fundraising. Wu has frequently spoken about this time period leading to a strong shift in her political views. Seeing the way the Republican party operated was in stark contrast to the ideals of the Republican party she saw stated on Fox News. By 26, she left DC disgusted — and decided to finish her undergraduate degree at the University of Mississippi.

By 2004, Wu was extremely frustrated with the Bush administration, and started reading books by prominent liberals reevaluating her beliefs. She spent 2004 campaigning heavily for John Kerry. In 2005, she was disowned by her parents over differences over the election and GLBT rights. Wu has stated she was homeless during this period.
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That's all I've got with my current records. Wu aggressively scrubbed some of her earlier spergouts, so we have somewhat less examples of her admitting to it than I'd like. I don't have access to RNC records or the like, but if Flynt's resume holds true she did her fundraising work back in 1997.
 
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Put it in the article.

I've merged some of your stuff about future projects into the main Giant SpaceKat Studios articles and created 6 different redirects there because it was hard to find. I NPOV'd it a bit because it was overly cynical. It's actually really easy to fix these articles, it's sort of like a fat person. Every fat person has a skinny person trapped inside, you just gotta boil the fat off them first.

If you need help putting yourself in the mindset to write this way, just imagine you're trying to provide a no-bullshit facts-only dossier to Lynch's campaign team (because that's probably what's going to happen). Make it as easy for a 45 year old campaign manager to understand as possible and give them no reason to doubt you.
 
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I'll put some work in on it tomorrow. Thanks, Null.
 
Added more citations. Gradually working on things.
 
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Added more citations. Gradually working on things.
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It's getting there but you're still getting caught in old pitfalls. Words like "likewise", "indeed", "outright" are still there. It's really just not necessary.

It's worth noting that Brianna Wu has claimed repeatedly'[75] to have certifications[76][77] in everything from Political Sciences[78] to Investigative Journalism[79] to Engineering, but even Brianna's former classmates believed that Brianna Wu had gotten a degree in Business.
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Half of this sentence is personal language and the use of emphasis here is inappropriate.

"Brianna Wu has repeatedly claimed that she has a degree in X, Y, and Z.<ref/><ref/><ref/> However, forum messages by her classmates have shown she probably has a degree in business.<ref/>"

I also have a flaming hatred of the phrase "It's worth noting". Obviously it's worth noting, that's why you're writing about it. Same goes with any reference to the author in first person. That's something Psycho Sam does. "In this author's opinion" or "in my opinion" or anything of the sort is completely unnecessary. I don't see it here because I think we burned it out of the main BWu page, but it may still be elsehwere.

Despite this, Brianna Wu has repeatedly declared that she has, indeed, graduated.
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That's just me being a pedant. The big issue is redundancy of information. Now that I'm starting to really read these articles I've noticed a lot, a lot, a lot of overlap of information. If it's worth saying it's worth saying over and over again. This new contribution is about her political career, but you're referencing her education again. We already have a subsection on her education and even her internship at the RNC. That doesn't need to be restated in the same article.

A lot of this should also probably just be moved to separate articles or reorganized. There's a big area dedicated to just quotes from trans people saying Wu can go fuck herself. I'm assuming there's an essay article about Wu and Trans shit, so that should probably just go there with a {{main}} and leave one or two sentences saying:

"{{main|Brianna Wu and Transgenderism}}
Wu considers herself as a strong proponent of the trans community.<ref /> While she does have support from the trans community,<ref /> some trans activists claim she is opportunist and even deceitful for not being honest about being transgender herself.</ref>"

The Frank Wu area, as an example, has no place in the article at all. I'm assuming a lot of that text is just cut and paste from the main Frank article to begin with. Using, again, the WP Hitler article, Eva Braun only receives 6 mentions in the entire thing and only appears in the main article body twice: in the intro, and one mention in


It's getting better though. We want a strong article because it does have good SEO and I want people in Mass to see it and learn from it without getting weirded out. This is a normie article for normies.

I'll look through it today because I'm bored. The main problem right now is organization.
 
Actually Jaimas, as a starting point, do me a favor. Like I said with the Frank article, please double-check if there's any information in the main Frank article, then merge that info in from the Brianna article. Once that's done, remove the entire thing and write a very, very short "Family" paragraph at the very bottom above references a la https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Family

I need you to do this because I don't know anything about Frank or the Flynts.
 
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Actually Jaimas, as a starting point, do me a favor. Like I said with the Frank article, please double-check if there's any information in the main Frank article, then merge that info in from the Brianna article. Once that's done, remove the entire thing and write a very, very short "Family" paragraph at the very bottom above references a la https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Family

I need you to do this because I don't know anything about Frank or the Flynts.
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There's some critical info in there, specifically the myriad ways that Frank's basically the reason she has a career and uses a lot of his tactics. I'll go about condensing it and doing a family segment as asked soon, however. Thank you for your help.
 
Got it. Short and to the point by my standards and it's as much as you're getting out of me right now. I'm kind of glad Frank doesn't have an article anymore, though I'll need to chain edit later.
 
I apologise for necro-ing this thread, but I felt it was more on-topic to post here than the main thread.

First thing: Many of the articles that are linked in the thread (such as ones on Election Eve versions and Frank) are blanked (though Frank's is basically red-linked). While you can read the Election Eve wiki by looking through past pages, I was wondering why this and the Frank page were basically deleted.

Also, I have no idea how to do this, but I would like to have a navbox (if I'm using the term correctly) for Wu's page. It's very sprawling, in order to cover the vast amount of information. I read Wikipedia's article about "not everything needs a navbox" but I feel it would still be useful. Afaik while most of the articles are definitely reachable by a few clicks, I feel like having a navbox would increase the likelihood for people to click around more. Like the one on various cow types, it also shows what else in terms of information lies out there at a glance, so I feel it would be very helpful.
 
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