Brianna Wu / John Flynt - DEAGLE NATION STILL LIVES

[Jaimas]

Its like a call of duty killstreak

Reminded me of Manuel:

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Dat lack of self-awareness tho

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

Does it mean nonhomosexual, as in men liking women before transitioning?

I read that article a long time ago but IIRC I believe it is referring to post-transition opposite sex attraction.

Flynt was obviously homosexual, and felt the need to transition because he was ashamed of being homosexual.

Agree that John was a homosexual before transitioning but I don't think John was ashamed of being homosexual. I have seen no evidence that he felt shame.

John's MtF trannssexualism appears to be motivated by autogynephilia as @Pencilvester implied by referencing the paper. John/Brianna would be classed as a nonhomosexual MtF transsexual because he expresses a sex attraction opposite to that of his transitioned sex, namely female.

A homosexual MtF transsexual would be one that identifies as lesbian--John is not in that category and I have seen no evidence that he is sexually attracted to women, despite his claims to be bisexual.

And, yes, this means Frank is at least bi.

Agreed.

Or is this talking about people like Samantha Allen, who after transitioning became 'lesbian', IE still liked women.

Broadly, it addresses that not all persons that identify as MTF transsexuals are in actuality primary transsexuals but rather some have a narcissistic disorder termed autogynephilia where they are literally in erotic love with the female projection of themselves. That is not to say that there is no such thing as transsexualism--there are multiple converging lines of evidence that primary transsexualism is real--but rather that autogynephiles are using transsexualism to mask their narcissistic paraphilia. Most people are more accepting of "I want to transition because I want to relieve my gender dysphoria" versus "I want to transition so that I can actualise the female projection of myself so that I may try and have sex with myself".

Of all the cows on this site, Casey Courtright/"Locria Nyla" is probably the best example of a likely faux transsexual and autogynephile. John Flynt/Brianna Wu is definitely a candidate: his characters--that trace all the way back to his teenage years--are very autogynephilic, i.e. they appear to be idealised projections of a female version of the then John Flynt, complete with large hands and feet.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Agree that John was a homosexual before transitioning but I don't think John was ashamed of being homosexual. I have seen no evidence that he felt shame.

In fact, there's no evidence that he's ever felt shame. About anything.

 

[Jaimas]

In fact, there's no evidence that he's ever felt shame. About anything.

Except when she gets caught.

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

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Is an edit or did he actually say "preachy white feminism" like that isn't the definition of what he's doing?

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

Is an edit or did he actually say "preachy white feminism" like that isn't the definition of what he's doing?

Complaining about white feminism is the latest meme amongst white feminists.

 

[Accel_Rider]

Is an edit or did he actually say "preachy white feminism" like that isn't the definition of what he's doing?

Just like Natalie, John's self-awareness is also non-existent

 

[Richard Stabone]

Have at thee, Kiwis

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Pure retardation: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...le-violence/lpUiw1Zdmdx9PTmoboY8jO/story.html

Playing FFIV will definitely heal racial divisions in America

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They let an unemployed con-artist write an op-ed? Can't fathom why the newspaper business is dying.

 

[Dr. Merkwurdichliebe]

I forget where, but Wu has said in the past that "Natalie O'Brien" is a pseudonym to prevent the real person who does this job being harassed. I suppose this is supposed to explain why Natalie doesn't appear to exist anywhere as a real person. Of course it isn't as though Wu had to advertise the existence of this person at all, pseudonym or not. I always consider the way Wu casually tosses her name about as one of the biggest reasons I tend to believe she isn't a real person.

I don't recall Flynt/Wu claiming that "Natalie O'Brien" was a nom de guerre. But it wasn't long ago that he claimed that Natalie was going to be interviewed by a major news outlet, which would typically involve photos and the use of her real name -- if only she actually existed. Of course, he knew that his ass-patters would soon forget about this interview, along with all of Flynt/Wu's other claims and promises that never materialized.

 

[KrazyMage]

Broadly, it addresses that not all persons that identify as MTF transsexuals are in actuality primary transsexuals but rather some have a narcissistic disorder termed autogynephilia where they are literally in erotic love with the female projection of themselves. That is not to say that there is no such thing as transsexualism--there are multiple converging lines of evidence that primary transsexualism is real--but rather that autogynephiles are using transsexualism to mask their narcissistic paraphilia. Most people are more accepting of "I want to transition because I want to relieve my gender dysphoria" versus "I want to transition so that I can actualise the female projection of myself so that I may try and have sex with myself".

Ah. A nice and succinct explanation that I comprehended immediately. Thanks.

Transitioning because of some narcissistic desire over ever having actual gender dysphoria. While gender dysphoria is interesting in its own right, autogynephilia seems downright completely bonkers. But, since it also seems to be, from what I am understanding, completely engulfed in a form of narcissism, it does seem to fit how Flynt sees himself.

So, every gender dysphoria MtF who then becomes lesbian, is considered a homosexual MtF after transitioning, since they still retain their sexual attraction to women; but just always felt they were supposed to be born female in the first place.

Of all the cows on this site, Casey Courtright/"Locria Nyla" is probably the best example of a likely faux transsexual and autogynephile. John Flynt/Brianna Wu is definitely a candidate: his characters--that trace all the way back to his teenage years--are very autogynephilic, i.e. they appear to be idealised projections of a female version of the then John Flynt, complete with large hands and feet.

Yeah, Holiday is definitely an idealized vision of John. She's tall, has a face you can see John wants for himself and takes from his own (small mouth, as an example), is an 'action hero' (which John pretty much sees himself as), and, with the exception of the boobs, hips and waist ratio, is shaped a lot like John is.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Yeah, Holiday is definitely an idealized vision of John. She's tall, has a face you can see John wants for himself and takes from his own (small mouth, as an example), is an 'action hero' (which John pretty much sees himself as), and, with the exception of the boobs, hips and waist ratio, is shaped a lot like John is.

And if BriBri ever actually tried riding her abomination of a motorcycle, Johnny Boy and Holiday would have in common that both crashed their overpriced toy.

 

[Accel_Rider]

And if BriBri ever actually tried riding her abomination of a motorcycle, Johnny Boy and Holiday would have in common that both crashed their overpriced toy.

Then John could claim that Jace cut his brakes as an assassination attempt

 

[CyrusKissFanClub]

So, every gender dysphoria MtF who then becomes lesbian, is considered a homosexual MtF after transitioning, since they still retain their sexual attraction to women; but just always felt they were supposed to be born female in the first place.

The existence of genuine MtF transsexuals that self-identify as lesbian (post-transition) is problematic and a high probability is attached to them being autogynephiles rather than primary transsexuals for two broad reasons:
(i) case reports;
(ii) the high improbability of the two (individually improbable) in utero events that lead to homosexuality and transsexualism both occurring to the same fetus.

AFAIK the consensus views on the in utero causes of homosexuality and transsexualism are independent, they are distinct improbable events (so they can be treated as independent events in basic probability). Now consider the arithmetic of the problem:

--In the USA about 1.7% of the adult population identifies as gay or lesbian
--In the USA about 0.3% of the adult population identifies as transsexual (and this figure includes autogynephiles so it is inflated)
--We want natal male transsexuals (0.15%) and lesbians (0.85%) so we halve each propoortion and we get a probability of these independent events both occurring of 0.1275/10000 = .001275% which is very small probability

You can think about it this way: in primary transsexualism in natal males they have a feminized brain and the normative sexual orientation for a female brain is heterosexuality. We would expect a MtF transsexual's brain to be heterosexual "by default". Some further--improbable event--is required to also influence that feminized brain to take a further improbable, non-normative developmental pathway towards homosexuality.

It is of course possible that there are primary MtF transsexuals that identify as lesbian but they are a priori improbable and (near) non-existent in published case reports that are concerned to identify autogynephiles.

Note that many MtF "transtrenders" on this site self-identify as lesbian: this is consistent with the above and corroborates the view that they are not primary transsexuals.

So to bring this back to John Flynt/Brianna Wu: John's/Brianna's pre and post-transition sexual orientation is consistent with primary transsexualism but the balance of his behavior over his documented lifetime suggests autogynephilia. For this reason it isn't clear cut what sort of MtF John is and this is why I would only nominate him as a candidate for autogynephilia rather than as a strong contender.

 

[Cynical]

The existence of genuine MtF transsexuals that self-identify as lesbian (post-transition) is problematic and a high probability is attached to them being autogynephiles rather than primary transsexuals for two broad reasons:
(i) case reports;
(ii) the high improbability of the two (individually improbable) in utero events that lead to homosexuality and transsexualism both occurring to the same fetus.

AFAIK the consensus views on the in utero causes of homosexuality and transsexualism are independent, they are distinct improbable events (so they can be treated as independent events in basic probability). Now consider the arithmetic of the problem:

--In the USA about 1.7% of the adult population identifies as gay or lesbian
--In the USA about 0.3% of the adult population identifies as transsexual (and this figure includes autogynephiles so it is inflated)
--We want natal male transsexuals (0.15%) and lesbians (0.85%) so we halve each propoortion and we get a probability of these independent events both occurring of 0.1275/10000 = .001275% which is very small probability

You can think about it this way: in primary transsexualism in natal males they have a feminized brain and the normative sexual orientation for a female brain is heterosexuality. We would expect a MtF transsexual's brain to be heterosexual "by default". Some further--improbable event--is required to also influence that feminized brain to take a further improbable, non-normative developmental pathway towards homosexuality.

It is of course possible that there are primary MtF transsexuals that identify as lesbian but they are a priori improbable and (near) non-existent in published case reports that are concerned to identify autogynephiles.

Note that many MtF "transtrenders" on this site self-identify as lesbian: this is consistent with the above and corroborates the view that they are not primary transsexuals.

So to bring this back to John Flynt/Brianna Wu: John's/Brianna's pre and post-transition sexual orientation is consistent with primary transsexualism but the balance of his behavior over his documented lifetime suggests autogynephilia. For this reason it isn't clear cut what sort of MtF John is and this is why I would only nominate him as a candidate for autogynephilia rather than as a strong contender.

It's likely the two motives have merged.

We've known John has been a somewhat self hating bisexual before transition, and almost every single reason for becoming a woman has been fetishistic in nature.

The merger of the two means to some degree he has genuinely accepted himself as an actual woman and hence wishes to deny his past as a man as a result, and while a lot of his reasons were grounded and still are influenced by autogynephilia, he's come to make them real by living his fetish driven lie to the point it has become actual truth in many ways.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

These guys must be HILARIOUS at parties.

 

[Buck Bumble]

These guys must be HILARIOUS at parties.

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Lol if you want to do something stop drinking overpriced coffee and donate that $7 to victims of gun violence or prisoner's rights/community outreach organizations.

You'll still barely be doing anything but it's more than you'll do complaining on twitter

 

[Von Clausewitz]

These guys must be HILARIOUS at parties.

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No, putting it in rice only works for snipers of Asian descent...
...seriously, what the fuck?

 

[DragoonSierra]

Have at thee, Kiwis

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Pure retardation: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...le-violence/lpUiw1Zdmdx9PTmoboY8jO/story.html

Playing FFIV will definitely heal racial divisions in America

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Because it being white's problem to fix doesnt totally smell of white privilege

It appears some of her supporters are in active revolt. Someone sent me her Patron-only posts from Patreon. Nothing really exciting but kind of interesting.


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(Did anything ever come out of this "INVESTIGATIVE PIECE"?)

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The comments for the last one are listed below in the spoiler.

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Mike Cohen
@mike3k
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Alethea Davidson
@mmmfoxing
2y
Jonathan McDowell
@planet4589
2y
Ed Scimia
@erscimia
2y
Judy Chen
@judykitteh
2y
Timothy Childree
@thain1982
2y
cheezopath
@cheezopath
2y
John Cullen
@pronihilist
2y
Simone B
You should be warned. I tweet *alot* about feminism and game design. Sometimes both. @MadamPlumpette
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Gerald
@darkpawH
2y
Nathan Luedtke
Wheee! @nathanluedtke
2y
Don Nelson
Thank you, Brianna: @dhwn
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Nathan Gouwens
@gouwens
2y
Timothy Reedy
Keep up the great work! @Beedy_27
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Faith Gilmore
@fkg123
2y
John Jusayan
@jrbj
2y
Toby
@tobyfee
2y
Chris Wiest
@p51man1
2y
Jacki
@JackiJinx
2y
Kyra
Public account is @mari_shepard; private account I should be using more is @100_indecisions.
2y
Haran Sened
@haranmi
2y
Kayleigh Anne
@Ceilidhann
2y
Dafydd Williams
Thanks, Brianna! You can find me as @pipequanta
2y
Mickey Hoz
@Nimiauredhel
2y
Howard
@HowardDyGo
2y
Tasha Turner Lennhoff
You can find me at @turner_tasha
2y
Andrew Janke
@AndrewJanke
2y
Marcus Masciarelli
@marcusmash
2y
Jeremy Kenyon
Thank you! I'm at @lanthos
2y
Chris Schnefke
I don't tweet a lot, but I'm @Aelussa
2y
Paul
Thanks, @paulglavin
2y
Charlie Galvin
@cxarli
2y
Daniel Ross
@Nentuaby
2y
Dennis Lindfors
@MisoGameSoup
2y
Brianna Wu
I think I got you all added. If you didn't get a follow, let me know. Took 3 hours!
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Paul
yep, although I'm not sure about the list I'm on, unless it's a typo
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Maxion
@TheRealMaxion
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Brianna Wu
Paul, were you the one I clicked on accidentally? "Sexist men?" It's the list right below it I sue for public shaming. ^^ I removed you obviously.
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Paul
That's me. I'm still showing as on it from over here though.
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Timothy Childree
I got your follow, but I'm not on a list (I had to check, whereupon I was reminded that I managed to land myself on a Goobergater's list of "SJWs, trolls, and shills that harass gamers")
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Andrew Cybulska
Hey Tim, just a heads up, if you're ever on a list that you don't want to be on (such as the one you just mentioned) you can block the person who made the list, and that will remove you from said list, even if you unblock them.
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Brianna Wu
Timothy, what's your Twitter handle again?
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Timothy Childree
@thain1982
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Brianna Wu
Yeah, you're on it - you just can't see it because the list is secret. For obvious reasons.
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Timothy Childree
Aha! Learned something new about Twitter today
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Arthur P. Johnson
@KingofKats but you already follow
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Gustavo Campanelli
I'm @gedecito , thought I am not too active in twitter
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Pam D
@jasyla_ already followed, but not on the list yet
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Karun Rajasekharan
@karunr - am glad to support your great work
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Terry Mesnard
We already follow each other, but I'm proud to help you in my small way. We need vocal developers who aren't willing to just sit idly by. Thanks for all you do! @albedo777
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Todd Smith
@nagimalice
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Identity Crisis
Only just read this properly but I'm @ICrisisUK
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Nerd Dragon
Well I am a little late to the party, but just started supporting. I am @nerddrgn on twitter. Keep being awesome!
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Andrew Cybulska
My twitter handle is @andrew_cybulska. So glad I can help support the great work you do. It's not much, but it's what I can afford presently. <3 <3
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Justin de Vesine
Don't seem to have gotten a follow yet, not that I'm in a rush. I'm @devesine.
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Brianna Wu
I'm assigning Nicole to add the rest of these this week.
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Dafydd Williams
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Matthew
Hi, just noticed this now! I'm @garaden. Thanks!
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Dmitry Lyalin
@lyalindotcom

Oh shit. Is that a list of people we can tweet the medium post about Natalie being fake?

The existence of genuine MtF transsexuals that self-identify as lesbian (post-transition) is problematic and a high probability is attached to them being autogynephiles rather than primary transsexuals for two broad reasons:
(i) case reports;
(ii) the high improbability of the two (individually improbable) in utero events that lead to homosexuality and transsexualism both occurring to the same fetus.

AFAIK the consensus views on the in utero causes of homosexuality and transsexualism are independent, they are distinct improbable events (so they can be treated as independent events in basic probability). Now consider the arithmetic of the problem:

--In the USA about 1.7% of the adult population identifies as gay or lesbian
--In the USA about 0.3% of the adult population identifies as transsexual (and this figure includes autogynephiles so it is inflated)
--We want natal male transsexuals (0.15%) and lesbians (0.85%) so we halve each propoortion and we get a probability of these independent events both occurring of 0.1275/10000 = .001275% which is very small probability

You can think about it this way: in primary transsexualism in natal males they have a feminized brain and the normative sexual orientation for a female brain is heterosexuality. We would expect a MtF transsexual's brain to be heterosexual "by default". Some further--improbable event--is required to also influence that feminized brain to take a further improbable, non-normative developmental pathway towards homosexuality.

It is of course possible that there are primary MtF transsexuals that identify as lesbian but they are a priori improbable and (near) non-existent in published case reports that are concerned to identify autogynephiles.

Note that many MtF "transtrenders" on this site self-identify as lesbian: this is consistent with the above and corroborates the view that they are not primary transsexuals.

So to bring this back to John Flynt/Brianna Wu: John's/Brianna's pre and post-transition sexual orientation is consistent with primary transsexualism but the balance of his behavior over his documented lifetime suggests autogynephilia. For this reason it isn't clear cut what sort of MtF John is and this is why I would only nominate him as a candidate for autogynephilia rather than as a strong contender.

This assumes people are born gay and dont become gay due to puberty or something else.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

lel Philando's name is still misspelled in the piece, great job everyone.

 

[selere]

These guys must be HILARIOUS at parties.

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The fact that John legitimately found these funny is what is more depressing.