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Broadcasters Want To Kill ATSC 1.0 – But At What Cost To Viewers?
MAR 6, 2025
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As the television industry evolves, so too does the technology that powers it. However, not all advancements in the media space are equally beneficial for consumers, particularly when they disrupt established and widely adopted systems. One such shift is underway as the National Association of Broadcasters (NAB) advocates for a mandatory transition from the current ATSC 1.0 broadcast standard to ATSC 3.0, a newer standard with enhanced features. While these new features—such as 4K HDR video, on-demand content, and targeted advertising—are appealing to many broadcasters, this transition could come at a significant cost to consumers, especially those who rely on over-the-air (OTA) signals to access free local television.

Broadcasters argue that the move to ATSC 3.0 will unlock an array of advanced capabilities that align with modern viewing preferences. From high-definition video to interactive features, ATSC 3.0 promises to improve the quality and versatility of OTA television. Proponents also see it as a necessary step in the evolution of broadcast technology, particularly as digital media consumption shifts increasingly toward streaming platforms. However, this transition comes with a significant hurdle: consumer adoption.

Currently, a small fraction of television sets are compatible with ATSC 3.0. According to industry reports, only about 10% of TVs shipped in the United States last year support the new standard. The reality is that most consumers still rely on older models, and upgrading to a TV that supports ATSC 3.0 can be expensive, particularly for those who have invested in large-screen sets that may not have been designed with this transition in mind. Even for consumers who own newer models, the hardware and software limitations of ATSC 3.0—especially regarding compatibility with older devices—pose serious concerns.

While buying a new TV with ATSC 3.0 support is one option, it’s far from the most practical or affordable solution for many. The alternative is purchasing a converter box, which allows older TVs to receive the ATSC 3.0 signal. However, these converter boxes are currently priced at around $90 or more, which could be a steep cost for consumers who are already contending with rising prices in other areas of their lives. These devices are not only expensive but also often complicated to use and prone to technical issues. The consumer experience in transitioning to ATSC 3.0 could easily become a burden, especially for those who are not particularly tech-savvy.

Further complicating matters is the issue of copy protection and content restrictions imposed by the new standard. ATSC 3.0 has been widely criticized by tech enthusiasts for its restrictive copy protection schemes, which can prevent consumers from recording and archiving content they receive over-the-air. Over-the-air DVR systems, a popular way for consumers to store broadcast content, are significantly hindered by these limitations, leading many to avoid the new standard altogether. For viewers who value the freedom to record shows and movies without the restrictions that come with cable or streaming services, this aspect of ATSC 3.0 could be a major deterrent.

The push to make ATSC 3.0 mandatory by 2028 in the 55 largest U.S. markets, and by 2030 in all markets, seems premature when weighed against these barriers to adoption. While broadcasters may see this as a necessary step to future-proof their business models and capitalize on the lucrative opportunities offered by targeted advertising, the proposal fails to take into account the real-world impact on millions of consumers who are not ready—or able—to make the transition.

In many ways, this push mirrors the early days of digital television, when consumers were forced to upgrade their equipment or lose access to free, over-the-air content. This time around, however, the stakes are higher. The current broadcast landscape is already fragmented, with viewers increasingly turning to streaming platforms for convenience and content variety. Forcing consumers into an expensive upgrade cycle may only accelerate this shift, particularly as more affordable, flexible viewing options continue to emerge.

The challenge of ensuring that all consumers can access local television without undue financial strain should be a priority. While it is important for broadcasters to innovate and enhance their services, it is equally important that these changes do not alienate the very viewers who rely on OTA broadcasts for their daily news, entertainment, and sports programming.

The transition to ATSC 3.0 may be inevitable, but it should not come at the expense of consumer choice and accessibility. Instead of rushing to impose a hard deadline, the industry should focus on building out infrastructure that supports a smoother, more inclusive transition for all viewers. This could include lowering the cost of converter boxes, increasing public awareness, and working with manufacturers to ensure that more affordable ATSC 3.0-compatible sets are available to the public. Until these issues are adequately addressed, any push to kill ATSC 1.0 risks leaving a significant portion of the population behind.





NextGen TV’s DRM puts future of the over-the-air DVR in doubt

(Old 2023 Article since none of the current ones mention exactly what ATSC 3.0 will do)
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It’s been more than five years since I first asked whether ATSC 3.0, aka NextGen TV, would spell doom for over-the-air DVR. The answers are coming in now, and they’re not encouraging.

The latest television broadcasting standard, also called NextGen TV, is supposed to introduce new features such as 4K HDR video and dialog enhancement. But it also gives broadcasters the ultimate say over where and how you watch free local channels. With new encryption measures that many stations are now adopting, ATSC 3.0 can limit recording capabilities, block out-of-home viewing, and restrict the use of certain video player apps. Even basic playback requires seemingly endless certification hoops, potentially driving up the cost of ATSC 3.0 converter boxes.

Broadcasters say they’re trying to protect against media piracy, and that they might address some of these complaints in the future, but encryption still leaves them, rather than audiences, in control of what’s possible. Over-the-air DVR has been one of the last great ways to watch TV on your own terms. NextGen TV could stop that from happening.

How does ATSC 3.0 encryption work?​


Although broadcasters downplayed ATSC 3.0’s DRM (digital rights management) features in the standard’s early years, they’re starting to lock things down with encryption as more stations come online, and the issue has gained wider attention thanks to recent coverage by Tyler “Antenna Man” Kleinle and Lon Seidman.

Users can see which ATSC 3.0 stations are encrypted on the RabbitEars website, which has been tracking the NextGen TV rollout. Out of more than 400 NextGen TV channels in the United States, roughly 16 percent of them are now encrypted.

None of this should be noticeable if you have a smart TV with an ATSC 3.0 tuner, as it should already have the necessary keys to decrypt these locked-down channels. It also doesn’t affect channels that use the current ATSC 1.0 standard, which broadcasters are required to support for at least another four years.

But if you were an early adopter of external ATSC 3.0 tuners such as the HDHomeRun Flex 4K or Bitrouter ZapperBox, you won’t be able to watch any encrypted channels. These devices launched without DRM support before broadcasters started encrypting their channels, and while they plan to support DRM in the near future, the complications of doing so has led to numerous delays.

DRM isn’t just a temporary inconvenience. It will also introduce new restrictions on your ability to access free, over-the-air channels through external tuners. Here are some examples that I’ve confirmed with device makers:
  • For DVR, broadcasters can set expiration dates on recordings or even block them outright. It’s unclear if broadcasters will do this, but ATSC 3.0 gives them the capability.
  • ATSC 3.0’s DRM has latency restrictions that effectively block out-of-home viewing from networked tuners such as the HDHomeRun Flex 4K.
  • Users will need an internet connection to stream local broadcasts around the home, for instance from an HDHomeRun tuner to a Roku player, and an occasional internet connection might be required for external tuner boxes.
  • Recordings won’t work without the original tuner that captured the programming, effectively preventing users from transferring programs they’ve recorded on a DVR to other devices, such as a laptop or tablet for away-from-home viewing.
  • With an HDHomeRun tuner, third-party apps must get independently certified to play encrypted ATSC 3.0 content. It’s unclear if programs such as Channels and Plex will do so.

The broadcasters’ response​


Pearl TV spokesman Dave Arland said future updates to ATSC 3.0’s copy-protection system, called A3SA, could address these issues. (Pearl TV is the broadcaster consortium that’s backing ATSC 3.0, and is a part-owner of A3SA.)

Remote viewing, for instance, is “on the A3SA development roadmap,” Arland said, and Pearl TV has proof-of-concept proposals that would allow external tuners to work without even occasional internet connectivity. While there are considerable technical challenges to letting users transfer recordings across devices, Arland said Pearl TV believes these are surmountable as well.

Arland did not deny that A3SA allows broadcasters to set expiration dates on recordings or block them outright, but said he’s not aware of any broadcasters that are doing so. He also noted that A3SA’s current rules prohibit restrictions on recordings for ATSC 1.0 channels that are simulcast in ATSC 3.0.

“Content protection is designed to prevent piracy, not stop home recording,” Arland said.

Well-intentioned or not, A3SA in its current form still serves to lock down over-the-air DVR and make it more like what you get with live TV streaming services. Instead of being free to watch local broadcasts on any device, using whichever app you prefer, you’ll be at the whims of the broadcasters and TV networks.

ATSC 3.0 DRM could cost you more​


If you’re not an over-the-air DVR user and only use an antenna for live TV, you might shrug off issues I’ve raised above. But here’s another reason to be concerned: DRM could make external tuner boxes more expensive.

Most existing TVs can only pick up broadcasts in the older ATSC 1.0 standard, and even some new TVs continue to ship without ATSC 3.0 tuners onboard. For viewers who don’t want to replace their entire televisions, ATSC 3.0 will require an external converter box.

But one device maker, who asked not to be named in this story, said that ATSC 3.0 DRM has both up-front and ongoing costs, both for licensing and certification testing. For the small vendors that are currently building ATSC 3.0 tuner boxes, these costs can be significant, and like other licensing fees they inevitably get passed onto users. (Pearl TV’s Dave Arland said A3SA provides “significant per-model discounts to smaller manufacturers.”)

DRM can also complicate the process of bringing new products to market in the first place. Nuvyyo, makers of the Tablo over-the-air DVR line, specifically pointed to DRM as the reason for delaying its first ATSC 3.0 tuner. The status of that product remains uncertain, as Nuvyyo has since been acquired by The E.W. Scripps Company, a major broadcaster.

So far, we’ve yet to see an external tuner ship for less than $200, and even ADTH’s upcoming tuner box has a price of around $100. While DRM might not be solely to blame, it is a factor in limiting options and keeping prices high.

The DVR’s decline​


While the rise of on-demand streaming has made DVR less relevant, in a way it’s more important than ever. As streaming services raise prices for ad-free viewing and trim their catalogs, being able to record TV programming on a device of your choosing is one of the last ways for viewers to exercise some control.

ATSC 3.0 DRM threatens to take that away. Combined with the dismantling of CableCARD, it ensures that users will be funneled into apps in which the content providers call the shots—even for free, over-the-air TV.

What can you do about it? Lon Seidman has encouraged users to complain to the FCC, which is seeking public feedback about the future of over-the-air TV. Broadcasters want the ability to turn off ATSC 1.0 as soon as it’s feasible, but they need the FCC’s permission to do it, and a loud and sustained consumer outcry could force some concessions on the encryption front.

Alternatively, you can just ride out ATSC 1.0 until the bitter end. As of now, that’ll be at least until July 2027, as the FCC is requiring broadcasters to support the old standard until then. If you buy an over-the-air DVR today—even one without ATSC 3.0 support—you’ll get at least four years of life out of it, and in a sense you’ll be voting against the new standard.

Either way, enjoy the unfettered state of over-the-air DVR while it lasts, because its future looks very cloudy.
 
It ensures more eyes are on the TV. Before VCRs were really commonplace, there were very few sequential shows (where every episode/season built on the previous one for an overarching plot

I can remember our vcr had a long detailed way of programming a recording a month out or something and also quick set recording method where it was like "in 5 hrs record for 1 hr". My dad and me were the only ones who knew how to do it.

All of us were excited for a new "murder mystery" serial show coming on (which they say now paved the way for Oz, Sopranos, Breaking Bad) but it was an FBI agent who talked about coffee and tree smells instead of shooting people and a lady who talked to a log. Big disappointment there, my boomer parents who understood stuff better than me hated it and WTFed just as bad as me and brother about this weird show and we all loved how it was lampooned on SNL. (Mighta changed my mind on this one and SNL in recent years)
 
Suppose a box allows the ATSC 3.0 signal to be received and decoded with no restrictions. Is it possible, and will the manufacturer be sued out of existence if it's not some unknown Chinese company selling through AliExpress?
itll be like hdcp, the chip will have restrictions baked in and if by some chance a chip doesn't have the restrictions, CBP will be happy to return your order at customs. its been a while since ive found a working hdcp-less hdmi splitter since the older chineses on amazon either get the listing removed or they send it with the chip in it.
 
I just recently found out that over the air DVR was a thing when I was bored and tried setting up the tv I plug my computer in to as an actual tv.
Then it asked me to slap in a flash drive to allow for rewind and pause and stuff.
I didn't get through scanning the channels before I wandered off from the project but it was kinda neat in theory
 
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I've got a PCI card tv tuner. I like recording/streaming local broadcast TV.

There's things being broadcast that I wouldn't necessarily think to try and watch on my own. I guess instead of Netflix' recommendation algorithm, I'm being given recommendations by whoever still schedules ota TV for their largely boomer audience?

I also get local tv/commercials which can be funny.

I wish I could get Philly local TV because I hear it's hilarious. But alas, Wilmington, DE is in the way.

Like I recorded this off of local broadcast tv:

itll be like hdcp, the chip will have restrictions baked in and if by some chance a chip doesn't have the restrictions, CBP will be happy to return your order at customs. its been a while since ive found a working hdcp-less hdmi splitter since the older chineses on amazon either get the listing removed or they send it with the chip in it.
Huh. Someone should do an FPGA version.

In fact, most of this hardware DRM fuckery can be defanged with an FPGA version, I'm pretty sure. And (mostly) legally too, in fact.

It may or may not be a crime to actually run the FPGA version, but because source code is protected speech, it wouldn't be illegal to publish it.
 
I still watch Broadcast TV. There is a channel in my area that is just true crime TV and I'll put that on when I'm in the kitchen. But really my media consumption over all has dropped off because of how much of what's out there is rancid shit.

I lived in an area that had a music video channel, like MTV was back in the day. They converted to some serialized format, but I still miss being able to throw that one. They had a Sunday Timewarp and would show some old, old stuff, like 70s Black Sabbath videos.


It ensures more eyes are on the TV. Before VCRs were really commonplace, there were very few sequential shows (where every episode/season built on the previous one for an overarching plot, mostly all plots would be resolved by the end, etc.), you could watch one show at one time, and the nighttime viewership was so low that these simply went off the air after dark.

With VCRs, you could watch every episode of every show as it came out while watching another one live, then re-watch the VCR version...which meant you were watching more television, and more eyes on the screen meant more for advertising dollars. Rather than the "big three" fighting for eyes in a few dedicated timeslots, you could watch from everybody, anytime, and with more television to watch, that meant more shows got ordered, more channels appeared, and more money to be made.

Had not VCRs been able to create a whole new market and evolve the medium, it's likely that the public would've eventually lost interest for something more convenient.
Its the MP3 paradox; when all the MP3 peer-to-peer downloading sites hit and proliferated despite the RIAA's crack down, even before iTunes they discovered that legal purchases of CDs went UP - to say nothing of tour revenues. If you lower the barrier to entry, allow people to access your product on their terms, you will gain more following which has a ripple effect as those people get their friends to engage with your product.
As long as you provide an easy mechanism to monetize engagement, you can often make more giving things away for free than you ever would charging for them.
 
Linear channels will eventually be reduced to live news and sports channels, with the rest going the FAST route (like Pluto TV), ATSC3 will accelerate that.
I just recently found out that over the air DVR was a thing when I was bored and tried setting up the tv I plug my computer in to as an actual tv.
Then it asked me to slap in a flash drive to allow for rewind and pause and stuff.
I didn't get through scanning the channels before I wandered off from the project but it was kinda neat in theory
Tivo still do OTA based DVRs, and many TV's offer USB recording as a standard feature, although you are mostly limited to one tuner.
 
Hmm I can either adopt this clunky drm ridden shit show and buy expensive new tech to do so, or I can go to FMHY and browse their selection of pirate streaming sites with no adverts for absolutely free. It's a real head scratcher that's for sure.



Even boomers are into piracy now, my grandad got sent a letter from his ISP telling him to stop pirating so much because he's affecting internet speeds in the local area. I was so proud I bought him a tricorn to wear while he torrents movies. And yes, he wears it
 
ATSC 3.0 is actually a much more robust codec than ATSC 1.0. I don't know how many people here actually *watch* over the air TV but dropout is a real fucking thing, so is the "digital cliff."

Analog TV was superior in robustness but you can't pack a gorillon subchannels onto an NTSC signal.

Also re not being able to skip ads, I still transfer stuff from my DVR using a VCR with an HDMI > RF converter. So I'm still watching it once, but whatever.
 
I wish I could get Philly local TV because I hear it's hilarious.
Not really, its probably the most professionalized of all of the local city TV in the US since it was the source of the "Action News" format of broadcast news. The only thing in Philly with flavor these days is the sports radio stuff and even that is a shadow of what it once was back in the 2ks or even further back into the 80s-90s.
 
Haven't watched TV since Obongo sold off the VHF band and went digital, and I don't miss it.
That was Bill Clinton, and 2009 was still mandates put in place by the George W Bush administration. ATSC has been around since about 1996, mainstream broadcasting since about 98. The subchannels can be pretty interesting and great but I only ever watch a limited amount of stuff anyway.
 
Further complicating matters is the issue of copy protection and content restrictions imposed by the new standard. ATSC 3.0 has been widely criticized by tech enthusiasts for its restrictive copy protection schemes, which can prevent consumers from recording and archiving content they receive over-the-air. Over-the-air DVR systems, a popular way for consumers to store broadcast content, are significantly hindered by these limitations, leading many to avoid the new standard altogether. For viewers who value the freedom to record shows and movies without the restrictions that come with cable or streaming services, this aspect of ATSC 3.0 could be a major deterrent.

Fucking NOPE!

The CR ghouls played the long game after getting BTFO in their crusade against VHS back in the day indeed. Especially when one looks at how they bullied hardware makers to keep them from ever offering disk based recording devices or how Soyny just weeks ago announced the end of production of BR W/RW drives and disks.

CR law and ESPECIALLY the DMCA, which protects DRM/CP systems with the power of criminal law whether CRs were violated or not, needs burned to the ground.

Also don' forget that normal non smart TVs are becoming a thing of the past and that smart TVs already come with ads. Some requiring net access, with boot looping the price of denying it such. With makers planning on using tech that inserts ads into 3rd party content like paused DVDs, games and cable box or streaming media.


itll be like hdcp, the chip will have restrictions baked in and if by some chance a chip doesn't have the restrictions, CBP will be happy to return your order at customs. its been a while since ive found a working hdcp-less hdmi splitter since the older chineses on amazon either get the listing removed or they send it with the chip in it.

Worse than that, those systems are protected by federal criminal law. It was the ultimate end around to the right to record a/o make copies of your media, as spelled out by the courts. They simply put DRM into everything and made circumventing that DRM itself a crime. (whether any media was involved or not)
 
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I don't miss it.
By the time of the DTV switch, even basic cable TV was suckness. Like History Channel airing "reality TV" about guys driving trucks over ice, or MTV having no music videos, etc. Nickelodeon running endless back-to-back-to-back reruns of Rocket Power. And free broadcast TV was worse. Seems it was pretty much just infomercials and televangelism. And looking back, broadcast TV is pretty much what corporations decide you should watch. But at least one could mute the TV during the ads, and not record them when taping.
 
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Is there even anything on television worth the effort to download and archive anymore?

To me it’s all the same rhythmic slop with zero creativity injected with turbo-woke bullshit. So much so that I don’t even bother to watch almost any of it.

It seems like in order to have intrusive DRM and bullshit over OTA television and fuck over the people still watching it, there would at least need to be something worth the effort of going through yet another gay upgrade. But alas, nope.
 
Is there even anything on television worth the effort to download and archive anymore?

To me it’s all the same rhythmic slop with zero creativity injected with turbo-woke bullshit. So much so that I don’t even bother to watch almost any of it.

It seems like in order to have intrusive DRM and bullshit over OTA television and fuck over the people still watching it, there would at least need to be something worth the effort of going through yet another gay upgrade. But alas, nope.
Lots of stuff on PBS. I live in Metro Detroit so I watch the CBC too.

NBC and ABC actually run documentaries in prime time too, so does FOX on occasion. There's been a really good one on NBC called "The Americas."

I also watch my share of slop yes. I've been watching High Potential and Doctor Odyssey on ABC, also Shifting Gears. I like Elsbeth on CBS as well as the fucking Price is Right. There's a new Suits but I never watched the original, so I'm not watching the current version, I couldn't stand Meghan Markle before she married Prince Ginger.
 
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