BronyCon 2019 megathread - July 14 - Chris gets donation to cover trip costs

[Marvin]

Exactly, because he enjoys these ideas. That's why he hasn't gotten rid of them. Chris has always had a problem with distinguishing between reality and fantasy. The ideafags just expanded on that. He's always had problems with his sexuality, the idea fags just forced him to explore it. I would like to note that it's not uncommon for straight men who identify as "women" (autogynepheliacs) to first claim to be lesbians and then go on to explore bisexuality. There's lots of literature on it. I've had a lot of friends who are straight men and lesbians, and you couldn't pay them to flirt with dudes, call them handsome, kiss them, or grope them. I don't understand how people can so easily accept that Chris is a true transgender soul, yet it's difficult for them to swallow that he's not straight anymore (attracted to women only). The old Chris is dead, the new Chris stil loves China he can never have, but he's also at least bi-curious.

Chris' sexuality towards women manifested itself in a very straightfoward (but autistic) manner, where he drew awful porn, he talked about "pussy and breasts", he tried to grope women, he pursued women as romantic partners, etc.

How has his alleged sexuality towards men manifested? Well, it simply hasn't.

That's why it's so easy for people to doubt Chris' claim that he's bisexual.

 

[AnOminous]

How has his alleged sexuality towards men manifested? Well, it simply hasn't.

Are you seriously asking this? How about by groping and kissing dudes at TMG until he literally got thrown out and went into hedgehog defensive posture?

He was literally groping dudes, Marvin. How can you say these things you do so often?

 

[AllCISPeople]

If girls his (physical) age ever did pick on him -- like Sarah Hammer -- he was too autistic to notice.

Also, the whole Sarah Hammer saga happened when he was really young. By the time he was in grade school, Bob was paying girls (or at least a couple of girls) to be nice and friendly towards him, and like you said, the males picked on him. It seems like his reconcile of his early child memories of Sarah Hammer are patchy. There are things he remembers distinctly, like going under the porch and such. But all the instances of her being mean towards him may not necessarily be etched into his memories, at least not very well. Also, she did extend an olive branch to him when they were adults, which could have changed any sore feelings he had about it. What Chris remembers the most is those God Jesus damned jerks bullying him and stealing all the pretty girls. And good point, he might have just been too autistic to care or notice. Who know.

 

[Marvin]

Are you seriously asking this? How about by groping and kissing dudes at TMG until he literally got thrown out and went into hedgehog defensive posture?

He was literally groping dudes, Marvin. How can you say these things you do so often?

He wasn't groping dudes. And he was kissing them on the cheek. Like a big, overly touchy old guy, like a family member.

I think it's silly to see his behavior at TMG as sexual. My point is that we know what sexual Chris looks like. This wasn't that.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

He wasn't groping dudes. And he was kissing them on the cheek. Like a big, overly touchy old guy, like a family member.

What kind of creepy-ass family members did you have where getting kissed on the cheek by men was okay? Were you molested, Marvin?

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Are you seriously asking this? How about by groping and kissing dudes at TMG until he literally got thrown out and went into hedgehog defensive posture?

He was literally groping dudes, Marvin. How can you say these things you do so often?

A- Fucking men. Then Chris' pathetic attempt at flirting with Bryan, then simulating sex acts with Magi-Chan like he's done in the past with imaginary women. There's always going to be some far reaching justification as to why Chris can't possibly love cock.

He wasn't groping dudes. And he was kissing them on the cheek. Like a big, overly touchy old guy, like a family member.

I think it's silly to see his behavior at TMG as sexual. My point is that we know what sexual Chris looks like. This wasn't that.

Dude, we have video and witnesses. It wasn't like the mutual, hetero male Euro kiss either.

 

[AnOminous]

He wasn't groping dudes. And he was kissing them on the cheek. Like a big, overly touchy old guy, like a family member.

Like a homo. Like a big fat queer. I mean seriously.

I think it's silly to see his behavior at TMG as sexual. My point is that we know what sexual Chris looks like. This wasn't that.

I can't even believe you just said that. It's just so bogus. Chris is a giant queermo.

He literally groped dudes until he was thrown out of a convention where groping dudes isn't even unusual. The problem with Chris is he doesn't understand consent.

But he does understand groping dudes. I mean seriously, are you actually defending this behavior?

 

[Marvin]

What kind of creepy-ass family members did you have where getting kissed on the cheek by men was okay? Were you molested, Marvin?

Joe Biden.

I can't even believe you just said that. It's just so bogus. Chris is a giant queermo.

He literally groped dudes until he was thrown out of a convention where groping dudes isn't even unusual. The problem with Chris is he doesn't understand consent.

But he does understand groping dudes. I mean seriously, are you actually defending this behavior?

I'm not defending it. I'm saying Chris isn't thinking with his dick. Chris' dick is dead.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Joe Biden.

Yup, and most agree, Joe is a creepy pervert, who shouldn't be around children. These aren't motherly or familial caresses. I don't know many family members who grope each other on a regular basis unless they're romantic partners.

I'm not defending it. I'm saying Chris isn't thinking with his dick. Chris' dick is dead.

Yes, you are. It's like saying, I'm not defending Chris. Insert Wild Justification Here.

 

[Marvin]

Yup, and most agree, Joe is a creepy pervert, who shouldn't be around children. These aren't motherly or familial caresses. I don't know many family members who grope each other on a regular basis unless they're romantic partners.
Yes, you are. It's like saying, I'm not defending Chris. Insert Wild Justification Here.

Your reaction is strange here.

I was objecting to the idea that Chris has a sexual attraction to men. I don't believe that's the case. I think Chris' behavior is shitty and he deserved to get thrown out, but I disagree about what motivates Chris.

I don't think Chris thinks about penises and finds them attractive. I don't think he consumes gay pornography. I don't think he thinks about sex with men.

That's how a sexual attraction manifests: sexual thoughts about a given sex.

And I think that those kisses were not sexual, but "friendly". Like old man social kissing, like Chris has seen on tv.

That's why I don't think he's bisexual.

I think all of this is orthogonal to whether or not Chris did something wrong.

It's like thinking Chris is anti-semitic because he called Michael Snyder a jew. (Edit: I mean, he might be anti-semitic, that's a discussion for a different time.)

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

It's like thinking Chris is anti-semitic because he called Michael Snyder a jew. (Edit: I mean, he might be anti-semitic, that's a discussion for a different time.)

Chris is literally, objectively, quantifiably 1000x worse than Hitler, so that kind of comes with the territory.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Why would the idea of Chris having dysphoria in these aspects surprise you? For a lot of us who remember the old Chris we remember him having clear signs of attraction towards men and being in denial. No straight man needs to remind himself to stay on the straight path. Even the fact that he had heard of Dr. Kinsey right in his first video should have clued you in. Bob probably had a talk to him after noticing his tendencies and tried to do some damage control. It was pretty obvious.

This might be a possibility.

I do think Chris probably does has some form of legit gender dysphoria that has been untreated and likely unnoticed for years due to his autism and shitty upbringing.

Given that a lot of people with gender dysphoria tend to have bisexual or homosexual inclinations, it wouldn't be entirely out of the question for Chris to have been a deeply repressed bisexual during the "Classic Years" given his redneck upbringing.

Keep in mind that his misandry is heavily influenced by the fact that most of his bullies in school were male and that would greatly exacerbate any gender-related dysphoria.

So it is entirely possible that Chris was bisexual at one point but was deeply repressed due to his misandry and Bob's influence. But it's a moot point now since his sex drive is essentially no more and most of the sexual behavior he has displayed in the past two years is tied to the Idea Guys in both direct and indirect ways.

Heck, most of his sex-related antics during the Classic era were a mix of troll manipulation and being a curious virgin trying to grandstand.

Once he lost his virginity to the hooker, he steadily became less sexually driven and now it's gone because of being on hormone treatments for so long.

@Marvin knows Chris better than anyone else active on this forum, so if he says Chris no longer has a sex drive, I'm inclined to believe it.

Chris may have been bisexual at one point but he did his best to repress it.

Now it's a moot point since he's entirely asexual for all intents and purposes.

 

[AnOminous]

I was objecting to the idea that Chris has a sexual attraction to men. I don't believe that's the case.

Then why does he grope and kiss men? Why does he do that? Why are you white knighting this homo who obviously has an attraction to men?

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I like the excuses. First it was the Ideaguys, then it was because Chris somehow identifies as an old man. LOL

 

[Fapcop]

Why would the idea of Chris having dysphoria in these aspects surprise you? For a lot of us who remember the old Chris we remember him having clear signs of attraction towards men and being in denial. No straight man needs to remind himself to stay on the straight path. Even the fact that he had heard of Dr. Kinsey right in his first video should have clued you in. Bob probably had a talk to him after noticing his tendencies and tried to do some damage control. It was pretty obvious.

Eh... You seem to mistake your regular guy with Turbo Autist Prime: Christian Weston Chandler.

No straight man needs to remind himself to stay on the straight path, you say? How about if the straight man is Chris, who has such a firm grasp on gender and sexuality, that he in one comic suggested that his blood could be used to cure homosexuality?

For all we know, Chris could have believed that just looking at a penis could make you gay. Which would be a very worrying concept, considering how much porn he watched.

His determination to “stay straight” could also easily have been a result of him having “girly” interests, and overall being so bad at being male.

Can we conclusively say if Christian is gay or straight?

No.

But the evidence certainly points to straight, Every time he was looking for romance or sex, it was involving women.

The Cville gay club/events could have given Chris easy access to experimenting with men (And fuck yes, Chris could have gotten laid with the homos. He’s hardly a 9/10 but dudes way uglier than him pull it off on a regular basis!) but there are zero reports about this.

We do have reports about Chris hanging out/going for girls at these events though. Which is just what you’d expect from a straight dude in a dress.

Then why does he grope and kiss men? Why does he do that? Why are you white knighting this homo who obviously has an attraction to men?

Oh come on... Some of you guys make it sound as if Chris was manning a glory hole at TMG, or like he was cock-seeking sped missile who had to physically be held back from raping people in his unquenchable craving for ass and balls.


He kissed some guys on the cheek. And the “groping” was pretty tame too. Big deal, especially since there are zero reports about Chris doing this sort of thing anywhere else.

As for why he did that? Who the fuck knows why Chris does any of the things he does.

Maybe he was pretending to be bisexual. Maybe he thought he could attract females by acting like a floozy.

Or maybe, he thought that this is what an attractive young women is supposed to act like.

 

[AnOminous]

As for why he did that? Who the fuck knows why Chris does any of the things he does.

He did it because he likes kissing dudes. This isn't Machiavelli level theory. If someone gropes and kisses dudes, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to conclude that he does it because he likes groping and kissing dudes, because he has an inclination that way.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Chris' sexuality

Are you seriously asking this?

He wasn't groping dudes.

A- Fucking men.

Like a homo. Like a big fat queer. I mean seriously.

I'm not defending it.

Yup, and most agree

Your reaction is strange here.

Chris is re.tarded, insane, has mind of a child, had not a great upbringing, and is the autism king. His mind is so fucked up on so many levels, even he wouldn't know if he is gay, bi, straight or whatever other flavours are available.

I think he doesn't or can't process sexuality normally. That's why the above discussion is happening. I view all of you are right, in part, in what you are saying. He's not some queenie fruit nor he is some masculine stud. He's an individual whose has a fucked mind and due to that, a lot of his conceptions of life, interpretations and feelings are equally fucked because his brain doesn't work right and can't comprehend nuances.

In my view, Chris just wants acceptance and to have people like him. Generally, he is still living the life and mind of a child and he just wants friends. The problem is his mental issues doesn't allow him to act or understand life in a way that would allow people to accept him or like him. He does not have the same level of societal understanding that we all have. It's like his mind is a bitch's brew of so many things that can affect how one thinks and deals with and operates in life on a daily basis.

Like I don't see Chris going after a guy sexually as most normal homosexual men would do. But on the flipside, if some guy told him he had a connection to the merge prophecy and he is the key to making it happen if Chris sucks his dick, Chris would suck his dick. I saw a thread about Sockness apparently going to hang with Chris or something. Maybe that is Jacob's plan!! Convince Chris he can make the merge happen if they get married! HAHA LOL

Seriously though, the interesting thing about this whole debate is that due to his fucked up state, he can never really obtain a real relationship (unless with a fellow sped) so his identity issues and whether he is gay/bi/hetero etc. never will be able to be worked out in his mind.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

He wasn't groping dudes. And he was kissing them on the cheek. Like a big, overly touchy old guy, like a family member.

No, Chris's ideals of women come from his Nick At Night Eva Gabor mixed with entertainer drag-queen role models.

I was objecting to the idea that Chris has a sexual attraction to men. I don't believe that's the case. I think Chris' behavior is shitty and he deserved to get thrown out, but I disagree about what motivates Chris.

Chris doesn't. And no guy, except the most beta, would complain to security. Chris however, all hepped up on ego, wouldn't think otherwise to getting handsy with whatever girl shows interest, even the slightest in him.

So it is entirely possible that Chris was bisexual at one point but was deeply repressed due to his misandry and Bob's influence. But it's a moot point now since his sex drive is essentially no more and most of the sexual behavior he has displayed in the past two years is tied to the Idea Guys in both direct and indirect ways.

Chris has never showed interested in other guys. The most that he showed was recognizing Bob as over him, but never in any way sexually with guys.

Remember, Chris wants a mother as a wife. Chris isn't some perpetual horny dude after fucking, he wants a woman figure that will pat him on the head and tell him he isn't fat, while taking care of the "hard work" while Chris plays with toys.

No straight man needs to remind himself to stay on the straight path, you say? How about if the straight man is Chris, who has such a firm grasp on gender and sexuality, that he in one comic suggested that his blood could be used to cure homosexuality?

For all we know, Chris could have believed that just looking at a penis could make you gay. Which would be a very worrying concept, considering how much porn he watched.

It's simple, back-woods, WASPy Virginia thinking. There are people that believe if you see some hot guy, or a lot of dicks, that magically it makes you homosexual. That line of reasoning is something that Chris would believe if his father and mother told him that. Chris isn't that sexually repressed quarterback trope that rags on gays because he's secretly gay, he just believes the nonsense that LGBT activists and hardcore evangelicals spout out about how bad it is to be gay.

 

[AnOminous]

He wasn't groping dudes.

How can you even say this? There's literally video of him doing it.

 

[Fapcop]

He did it because he likes kissing dudes. This isn't Machiavelli level theory. If someone gropes and kisses dudes, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to conclude that he does it because he likes groping and kissing dudes, because he has an inclination that way.

The weakness with that explanation, is that it is the only incident of its kind.

One exception does not a pattern make, or however that saying goes.

If Chris really liked kissing dudes, he would have had plenty of opportunities in the Cville gay scene. Or at BronyCon. He probably would have a buttload (HA!) of gay porn that we would know of, and he probably would have drawn at least a few cocks here and there.

Chris is also notorious for filling his comics with self inserts, and have those comics mostly revolve around what’s going on in his life. (And especially what he wants to have going on in his life.)

And how many gay characters, or penises of any kind is there in his comics? Close to zero. Instead, they mostly seem to revolve around, and feature... Female characters.