Bully Hunters

[Ebonic Tutor]

I think it's fair to say that it already imploded during the stream. The fact that the early anti SJW response consisted almost exclusively of derision instead of the usual ranting was an early indication to me of what an exquisit shitshow this must have been.

I like how the time for the stream was 1 hour and then it lasted about 24 minutes ending around the time they started looking for questions in the chat only to see it was a stream of dicks and evil jew ascii art.

 

[Haramburger]

- I have been taking a look at the co-host of the event, Tien Tran or @HankTina on Twitter sadly she has made her Tweets private.

Always, ALWAYS my greatest regret in any ongoing story. I never ever remember to look these people on Twitter or other social media & follow them before they go private. I kick myself every goddamn time, wondering what fuckery is happening behind that Great Wall.

 

[Zhoban]

Their last little official thread, in the form of Twitter, has now been taken down. Richard Lewis is expected to publish his findings soon.

 

[1940thefuckback]

Wait in the stream she rambles on about the stats and studies being real and that 63 million gamer gurlz has left the hobby beacuse of harasment.
She gives this link : https://twitter.com/TheZombiUnicorn/status/985306012423831552
Which links to an IB article which leads to an tabloid newspapper :
https://www.vg247.com/2012/09/08/st...ve-sexism-is-rampant-in-the-gaming-community/
Which leads to a goddamn survey performed by bloggers...
http://blog.pricecharting.com/2012/09/emilyami-sexism-in-video-games-study.html
How she can extrapolate that data to mean 63 million wamen idk. Or i´am i missing something boys?
There is a broken link in the blog post which i assume to be this fact sheet. https://isfe.eu/sites/isfe.eu/files/attachments/esa_ef_2016.pdf. But that dosen´t say anything about harrasment.
But i can´t see any of this data apply to what she is talking about...

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

But that dosen´t say anything about harrasment.
But i can´t see any of this data apply to what she is talking about...

You see, that's the trick. You're average normie isn't going to do all those jumps to check the facts and are just going to take what she says at face value.

 

[Zhoban]

Annnd... it's finished! FCB contacted Polygon and stated that they've closed down this program that they came up with, enacted and financed completely, while the sponsors simply provided gear and arranged connections with gamers and hosts.

 

[CrunkLord420]

Annnd... it's finished! FCB contacted Polygon and stated that they've closed down this program that they came up with, enacted and financed completely, while the sponsors simply provided gear and arranged connections with gamers and hosts.

Archived: https://archive.fo/NdQCm

Bully Hunters campaign goes dark after first stream erupts with backlash
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Host addresses controversial event
By Julia Alexander Apr 16, 2018, 1:51pm EDT SHARE
Bully Hunters
In just under 72 hours, the vigilante gaming group Bully Hunters went from an idealistic anti-harassment campaign to a prime example of what can happen when seemingly good intentions go wrong.
Bully Hunters is an initiative produced by marketing agency FCB Chicago, composed of an all-female organization made up of Counter-Strike: Global Offensive players trying to raise awareness of in-game harassment. The Bully Hunters website described the collective as a “vigilante hit squad of elite female gamers” who will enter CS:GO games when called upon, evaluate the situation and take out an offending player if the case is determined to be severe enough. A debut livestream, which reportedly featured pre-recorded, staged gameplay footage and specially branded SteelSeries headphones used for charity giveaways, aired Thursday night.
Reporters and other industry members criticized the group’s harassment countermeasures before the livestream ever kicked off. Their concerns were compounded after one host’s personal history of antagonizing people on Twitter and using homophobic language was dredged up, and questions about the involvement of companies like SteelSeries were aired. Even the use of pre-recorded footage during a live event raised alarms. It was the group’s anti-harassment techniques, however — which encouraged players to go in and take out bad actors — that drew the most ire.
Paste Games’ assistant editor Holly Green wrote about her concerns, pointing out that, “Not only does engaging griefers and trolls validate their negative behavior, it can also backfire and antagonize them, increasing the aggression towards their targets.”
Bully Hunters website and Twitter account were taken down over the weekend.
Companies like Vertagear, CyberPowerPC and SteelSeries — as well as nonprofit bodies like Diverse Gaming Coalition that partnered with the organization — are now distancing themselves from Bully Hunters following the overwhelmingly negative response to the event. The methods used to bring attention to the harassment that women face left the companies feeling uncomfortable with how the issue was represented, according to public statements on Facebook.
“When we were approached with the background and goals of Bully Hunters, we put our faith in the cause and the organizers,” Vertagear’s statement reads. “However, the information that we received before the start of the campaign not only contradicted the execution of it, but we discovered after the fact that it was sorely lacking. Our biggest mistake was not thoroughly vetting the details of the campaign to ensure that the execution would be up to the proper standards expected, and we apologize for that and the horrendous results of this event.”
posted a public statement on Facebookaddressing its participation and condemning the organization’s tactics.
“The way BullyHunters [sic] represented the gaming community was wrong and disingenuous,” SteelSeries’ statement reads. “Most gamers don’t experience harassment, and more importantly, 99%+ of gamers don’t do the harassing. We’re well aware of the many faults with BullyHunters. [...] Although we still believe in a world where harassment isn’t tolerated, it’s clear to us that BullyHunters is hurting, not helping, that cause. On Friday, we ended our support and partnership with the organization.”
Things only got worse when past video clips and tweets from Natalie “ZombiUnicorn” Casanova, the prominent Twitch streamer and YouTuber who became the most visible spokesperson for the event, surfaced. A 6-year-old clip showcasedCasanova referring to aggravating players with a homophobic slur. Tweets from Casanova that called other people a “bitch” and worse were shared around Twitter.
In a statement on Facebook, the Diverse Gaming Coalition highlighted Casanova’s past actions as part of the reason it was withdrawing support for the Bully Hunters initiative.
“Various tweets show wrongdoing by host, Zombi Unicorn, which are actions that Diverse Gaming Coalition does not condone, although she was not solely to blame for the Bully Hunters initiative as a whole,” the statement reads. “After the live-stream, it seems that Bully Hunters is still an initiative they wish to keep pursuing. However, this initiative does not align with our mission and vision statement as a non-profit. Because of this, we are deciding as of now, we are dropping as a partner from the Bully Hunters initiative.
“We believe in their intentions as a company to promote social good, but do not think they approached it in the best way possible.”
Facebook page and Twitter account, it seems unlikely at this time.
Casanova repeatedly said she was given no control over the direction of the project, something the companies involved also spoke to in their own statements. Despite her reservations, she said event organizers addressed her fears well enough prior to the event to give her enough confidence to remain involved as a consultant and host.

“People can debate the merits of the execution, but I’m always going to remain supportive of the overall goal,” Casanova said. “I understood from the beginning that there would be backlash. I didn’t necessarily think that this tool would be the only way. It wasn’t my idea, and it was brought to me. I kind of fought it a little bit at first, but once the wording was changed and it was shown to be that it wasn’t meant to be harassing, it was just meant to send a message, I thought that maybe, maybe, people could accept that and at least bring attention to it.
“Love it or hate it, it did its job. It’s brought a lot of attention to this. It’s opened up the discussion to more people. Yeah, it’s brought a lot of trolls, but it’s opened the discussion.”
The more that comes out about Bully Hunters, the less anyone seems to want to be attached to the project at all — financially or otherwise.
Although most of the companies involved, including SteelSeries, have fled Bully Hunters, and the situation raised plenty of eyebrows, Casanova stands by the organization. She believes the campaign proves more than ever that there’s a problem with harassment in the industry that she wants to keep fighting against.
“We obviously need it,” Casanova said. “Look at the fact that so many people are pretending like they’re tearing apart Bully Hunters because of the bad execution, and in the process are harassing me and multiple other people so badly. Go through my timeline. Look at all the rape threats; the ‘whore’; the ‘cunt’; the ‘stupid idiot, you’re a slut, you’re an idiot, you’re not even a real gamer.’ That’s real harassment.”

 

[CrunkLord420]

https://twitter.com/Brad_Glasgow/status/985965690363392000 (https://archive.fo/VXAWS)

 

[GayBloodCriminal]

I'd like to take a look at Natalie for a lolcow. I think a trend is lolcows not understanding how the internet works; for instance saying something on social media and then days later saying the opposite to a media personality as if no one can see your Twitter history.

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Twitter: "my ex bf & I used to call each other the f word as a pet name & it slipped. "

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Polygon: "It’s not an excuse. There’s no excuse to what I did, but I had never said anything like that before, and I never said anything like that again."

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

https://twitter.com/Brad_Glasgow/status/985965690363392000 (https://archive.fo/VXAWS)
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Gamers should have been put in quotations. Closest they had was Zombi Unicorn. Everyone else there was there to fill seats. So who paid off the organization to take the full blame for this shit show?

I'd like to take a look at Natalie for a lolcow. I think a trend is lolcows not understanding how the internet works; for instance saying something on social media and then days later saying the opposite to a media personality as if no one can see your Twitter history.

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Twitter: "my ex bf & I used to call each other the f word as a pet name & it slipped. "

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Polygon: "It’s not an excuse. There’s no excuse to what I did, but I had never said anything like that before, and I never said anything like that again."

So it's not her on her Twitch channel or her Verified Twitter account? This is why people think blondes are idiots.

 

[GayBloodCriminal]

I'm not sure what the fuck you're saying but her answer about an ex and her having faggot as a pet name is still on Twitter.

 

[Cubanodun]

I was expecting some SJW crying about how Bully Hunters fucked their own charities, the radio silence is almost funny after all this days

 

[KHitt]

If you have any Questions you want me to ask FCB, I am meeting with them in 30 mins.

 

[CrunkLord420]

If you have any Questions you want me to ask FCB, I am meeting with them in 30 mins.

What was the point? Just burning money on self promotion? Did they just come up with TimesUp charity in a panic when asked? Was there any analytics data from Facebook retained? What did those analytics consist of?

 

[Duke Nukem]

It's hilarious how fast they turned tail and ran the moment the rubber hit the road. I knew this would happen. Besides, who hasn't been called a racial slur or accused of homosexuality in online gaming? Social Justice Warriors SERIOUSLY do not know how to pick their battles.

I should already know this, but it still baffles me.

 

[Clop]

I'd like to take a look at Natalie for a lolcow. I think a trend is lolcows not understanding how the internet works; for instance saying something on social media and then days later saying the opposite to a media personality as if no one can see your Twitter history.

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Twitter: "my ex bf & I used to call each other the f word as a pet name & it slipped. "

Natalie why did you call people faggots?

Natalie on Polygon: "It’s not an excuse. There’s no excuse to what I did, but I had never said anything like that before, and I never said anything like that again."

It happens, who hasn't called their lover a "faggot" or "cuck" or "nigger" or "fucking cunt I'll find out where you live and shove your fucking mouse through your urethra?" I'm just assuming every time I hear that they were simply talking to their spouses and didn't notice the mic was on.


Her ex is probably prime lolcow material too if he really liked being called a faggot by his girlfriend. Or maybe that's why he's an ex.

 

[WaltherPPGAY]

I read the article and FCB Chicago's statement, and I can't say that I entirely believe it.

In this situation everyone is pointing fingers at FCB Chicago, but can't say more due to NDAs. Abbey Sagers from DGC outright said that FCB Chicago was hired, but she can't say anymore due to an NDA. Meanwhile ZombiUnicorn is throwing SteelSeries under the bus.

What really raises red flags with me is that ZombiUnicorn is supposedly just a host who was lightly consulted after SteelSeries was contacted, however she's been the acting PR person for the entire campaign despite no experience in the process or apparent vetting. Everyone involved has apparently prohibitive NDAs but ZombiUnicorn is still giving all the interviews and acting as bullyhunter's face. It's also interesting to note that only one of the two hosts were paid, which would make sense if ZombiUnicorn were integral to the process or working directly for whoever hired FCB.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Id personally like to know what qualifications FCB had.

Whatever happened to actual punishment in games? (this is of course rhetorical, I know exactly what happened) Like, launch 2004 World of Warcraft you could get corpse-camped pretty regularly and have to either risk rez-jumping farther and farther until you got away, or eat a 10-minute "you can't do shit" debuff rezzing at the graveyard. And WoW was honestly impossible to backpedal on. Older MMOs like Everquest actually de-levelled you and you could lost the entire night's worth of exp gains or more by one effective mobtrain, Star War Galaxies had player bounty hunting and permadeath/item destruction/long-term injury recovery as actual game mechanics. There was some high stakes hacking and baiting/robbery done in Diablo 2 also.

FPS and MOBAs ain't shit.

Remember Fancy the Bard? Good times...

 

[Haramburger]

If you have any Questions you want me to ask FCB, I am meeting with them in 30 mins.

New acct, who dis?

 

[CrunkLord420]

New acct, who dis?

Supposedly, he did reference the article before it actually came out: https://www.vpesports.com/author/khitt/ (https://archive.fo/jBQuf)