California could require car ‘governors’ that limit speeding to 10 mph over posted limits

By Ricardo Cano
Jan 24, 2024

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, including in cities such as San Francisco.
Laure Andrillon/Special to The Chronicle


California would become the first state to require new vehicles be equipped with speed governors — technology that limits how fast they can be driven — under legislation by San Francisco state Sen. Scott Wiener.

The bill, introduced Wednesday, would require cars and trucks of the 2027 model year or later that are built or sold in California to include speed governors that would prohibit motorists from driving more than 10 mph over posted speed limits.

The legislation aims to address the epidemic of traffic deaths in the Bay Area and California, Wiener said. Traffic fatalities rose during the pandemic in San Francisco and nationwide, and speed factors in about a third of traffic deaths across the country, according to the National Safety Council. The National Highway Safety Administration estimated more than 40,000 traffic fatalities in 2022.

“The tragic reality is that a lot of people are being severely injured or dying on our streets in San Francisco and throughout the country, and it’s getting worse,” Wiener told the Chronicle.

“We have speed limits, and they exist for a reason. And it’s perfectly reasonable to say you can’t travel more than 10 miles over the speed limit,” Wiener said. “That’s what this bill will do. It’s very reasonable, and it’s an idea whose time has come.”

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, in cities and on highways.
Lea Suzuki/The Chronicle


The legislation could have a sweeping effect on how people drive personal vehicles in California, if passed by the Legislature and signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Cars subject to the speed-governor requirement wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 80 mph on state highways with a post 70 mph speed limit, for example. The bill would also apply to city driving as motorists wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 35 mph in quiet residential streets with 25 mph speed limits.

The bill exempts emergency vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks, from the speed-governor requirement. The California Highway Patrol would have the discretion to disable speed governors on their vehicles, “provided that the vehicle’s use is reasonable and would not pose a public safety risk,” according to a bill fact sheet.

Wiener’s speed-governor bill would also require trucks weighing more than 10,000 pounds to come equipped with side underride guards if they are built, sold or registered in California. Side guards are meant to prevent people and vehicles from getting swept under a large truck during a crash.

Also known as speed limiters or “Intelligent Speed Assistance,” some speed governors can use GPS technology or cameras to cap vehicle speeds based on where the car is driving. Several auto manufacturers, such as Hyundai, already offer speed governor features in their newest models, which some motorists utilize as a form of cruise control.

SPUR, the urban planning think-tank, Walk San Francisco and other street safety advocacy groups support Wiener’s legislation. Still, the bill is likely to face opposition from the auto industry and California motorists who may view the proposal as a form of state overreach.

The idea of capping how fast cars can be driven to curb traffic deaths is not a new one. Several highway safety groups have urged Congress to pass a federal requirement, and the National Transportation Safety Board last year recommended that the federal government “at a minimum” require speed limiters in cars that warn drivers when they’re speeding.

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LOL I fucking called it. I was pondering why it was that speeding wasn't addressed when breathalyzers ($$$) for the drunks became mandatory; like, why no restrictor plates lmao? Speeding is the #1 cause of death, along with distracted driving. I think it's a great idea as I eschewed driving years ago just because of this (and it's way too expensive and dangerous, I am very happy at home tyvm). Equality FTW!
 
Here we see another example of how technological advancement slowly erodes human freedom and liberty.
The more technology advances, the more it ends up needing to be regulated.
Such a law would probably do a lot of good too, it probably would in fact help curb traffic-related injuries and fatalities. It also nevertheless represents the inexorable march toward ever smaller and smaller smart-cages as more and more human behavior and agency must be cracked down on and regulated for the sake of technology's integration into society.
 
10 is just an arbitrary number. What's to stop these faggots from reducing down to 5 or just going the limit?
I remind all theres was already an bill that included something about cars to being able to limit or prevent operation if it thinks you're impaired.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
 
And the buried lede here is just HOW this would even be possible.

In order to govern the car's speed to only 10mph above the posted limit, it would have to know what the limit is in that area. Meaning the car would have to know where it is at all times. And since newer cars are always connected back to corporate, the manufacturer knows where you are at all times. And if the manufacturer knows, the government will have a backdoor into that information. At all times.

This is a surveillance measure disguised as "public safety."
 
Maybe they'll also be faggot cars that are tiny, which can be picked up by the few remaining strong men and hurled into the river.

The cars have to track your location to know the posted speed limits. So that's bad, too.
 
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Maybe they'll also be faggot cars that are tiny, which can be picked up by the few remaining strong men and hurled into the river.

The cars have to track your location to know the posted speed limits. So that's bad, too.
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
 
If they do that, why not increase the speed limit by 10 MPH and then put the governors on the speed limit?

Also this is San Fran, nobody can drive the speed limit there anyway except joggers in stolen cars at 4 AM running over drugged out joggers in the street, which is a public service.

Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
 
This is a surveillance measure disguised as "public safety."
Bingo, personalized movement tracking at all times. Not to mention if the data is 'adjusted' to achieve goals. Electric grid can't keep up with the strain of your new 2027 tesla roadster? Welp, the state will use the tools it has at its disposal to prevent people from causing a grid collapse, by setting the speed limit to zero in strained regions. Can't drain your car if you can't drive it. If you have a problem with that, take it to court.
 
LOL I fucking called it. I was pondering why it was that speeding wasn't addressed when breathalyzers ($$$) for the drunks became mandatory; like, why no restrictor plates lmao? Speeding is the #1 cause of death, along with distracted driving. I think it's a great idea as I eschewed driving years ago just because of this (and it's way too expensive and dangerous, I am very happy at home tyvm). Equality FTW!
Never saw the point of those car breathalyzers at all. In theory they're a good idea but in practice you can literally pay some hobo to blow in it when you come out of the bar drunk. I know people that literally used to do that back in the day

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10 is just an arbitrary number. What's to stop these faggots from reducing down to 5 or just going the limit?
I remind all theres was already an bill that included something about cars to being able to limit or prevent operation if it thinks you're impaired.
On that note, I won't be surprised if at some point some device becomes mandatory that requires you to charge up your car with credits that reflect your current carbon credit level or they won't run

You had your lights on all day? Turned your oil heater on? Cooked breakfast on your gas stove? Oops, you're out of carbon credits for the day and can't drive anywhere

That said, the best part about this whole idea is that there was literally an episode of the terminator tv series that had thing kind of thing going on, except it was built into cameras that were tied into some network that updated vehicles as they came into range of a given area. The whole thing was built by some idiot woman on behalf of the government in LA and would end up being skynets eyes and ears in the future so it sent a terminator back to make sure she completed the job to skynets specs without realizing it, married her and ended up killing her after she was finished because she was a liability after it was done

Always nice to see california do something that skynet would approve of
 
under legislation by San Francisco state Sen. Scott Wiener.
I really hate this man. How many shitty bills that have made it into law has this man introduced?

Here we see another example of how technological advancement slowly erodes human freedom and liberty.
The more technology advances, the more it ends up needing to be regulated.
So uncle ted was right again.
 
I fully predict this is going to be one of those things put forward that never actually gets enforced and if it did would never actually get checked up on afterwards. Like no agency would actually follow up with car dealerships or mechanics about it. It'd be one of those laws on paper that people should follow but nobody ever would because they have contempt for it. Much like all liberal laws nowadays.
 
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