California could require car ‘governors’ that limit speeding to 10 mph over posted limits

By Ricardo Cano
Jan 24, 2024

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, including in cities such as San Francisco.
Laure Andrillon/Special to The Chronicle


California would become the first state to require new vehicles be equipped with speed governors — technology that limits how fast they can be driven — under legislation by San Francisco state Sen. Scott Wiener.

The bill, introduced Wednesday, would require cars and trucks of the 2027 model year or later that are built or sold in California to include speed governors that would prohibit motorists from driving more than 10 mph over posted speed limits.

The legislation aims to address the epidemic of traffic deaths in the Bay Area and California, Wiener said. Traffic fatalities rose during the pandemic in San Francisco and nationwide, and speed factors in about a third of traffic deaths across the country, according to the National Safety Council. The National Highway Safety Administration estimated more than 40,000 traffic fatalities in 2022.

“The tragic reality is that a lot of people are being severely injured or dying on our streets in San Francisco and throughout the country, and it’s getting worse,” Wiener told the Chronicle.

“We have speed limits, and they exist for a reason. And it’s perfectly reasonable to say you can’t travel more than 10 miles over the speed limit,” Wiener said. “That’s what this bill will do. It’s very reasonable, and it’s an idea whose time has come.”

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, in cities and on highways.
Lea Suzuki/The Chronicle


The legislation could have a sweeping effect on how people drive personal vehicles in California, if passed by the Legislature and signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Cars subject to the speed-governor requirement wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 80 mph on state highways with a post 70 mph speed limit, for example. The bill would also apply to city driving as motorists wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 35 mph in quiet residential streets with 25 mph speed limits.

The bill exempts emergency vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks, from the speed-governor requirement. The California Highway Patrol would have the discretion to disable speed governors on their vehicles, “provided that the vehicle’s use is reasonable and would not pose a public safety risk,” according to a bill fact sheet.

Wiener’s speed-governor bill would also require trucks weighing more than 10,000 pounds to come equipped with side underride guards if they are built, sold or registered in California. Side guards are meant to prevent people and vehicles from getting swept under a large truck during a crash.

Also known as speed limiters or “Intelligent Speed Assistance,” some speed governors can use GPS technology or cameras to cap vehicle speeds based on where the car is driving. Several auto manufacturers, such as Hyundai, already offer speed governor features in their newest models, which some motorists utilize as a form of cruise control.

SPUR, the urban planning think-tank, Walk San Francisco and other street safety advocacy groups support Wiener’s legislation. Still, the bill is likely to face opposition from the auto industry and California motorists who may view the proposal as a form of state overreach.

The idea of capping how fast cars can be driven to curb traffic deaths is not a new one. Several highway safety groups have urged Congress to pass a federal requirement, and the National Transportation Safety Board last year recommended that the federal government “at a minimum” require speed limiters in cars that warn drivers when they’re speeding.

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Remember when California used to claim it was the freest state in the Union?

LOL

Oh, and gee, I wonder whose getting in all these wrecks?
 
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
One of the Ford transits we have at my work has this. It also shows posted speed limits on the onboard navigation system.

What happens if you're off road or on a road with no posted speed limits, or no speed limits recorded in whatever database they use. Or if you lose your GPS signal for some reason. Will the car just not drive?
 
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
Modern cars have little cameras that can read the speed limits on road signs. Its not hard to use that feature to enable the governor. Of course, it would also need the ability to be turned off when not in CA, and that is ripe for abuse.

They also run into issues because they just see the road sign and not the fact that its part of a school zone and that the actual speed limit is much higher.
San Francisco state Sen. Scott Wiener
And of course its that literal faggot who is behind all this.
 
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
Modern cars use a camera or cameras to find the lines in the road for lane keeping assistance. Those cameras can also read some road signs.

Most of the cameras are actually black and white for some reason or aren't setup to see color like humans.
 
There's a lot of stupid here that others have already called out but I especially like this one.

The bill exempts emergency vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks, from the speed-governor requirement. The California Highway Patrol would have the discretion to disable speed governors on their vehicles, “provided that the vehicle’s use is reasonable and would not pose a public safety risk,” according to a bill fact sheet.
I am going to put money that when pursuing a vehicle travelling only 10 MPH over the limit is not considered a reasonable use. This is another step in preventing police from pursuing criminals because;

Car A goes past Highway patrol in some way that merits a pursuit
Highway Patrol car increases speed to 10 miles over the speed limit to try to catch up
Car A sees them coming and increases speed to the same cap
Assuming the governor is working correctly both cars will remain at the same distance from one another at the point where both hits their speed limit until one of them reduces speed. Catching the law breaking vehicle car is not possible without disabling the governor which, given the sort of people proposing these rules, will likely not be allowed.

Again, nothing new with the stupidity in the state. But amusing.
 
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Here we see another example of how technological advancement slowly erodes human freedom and liberty.
The more technology advances, the more it ends up needing to be regulated.
Such a law would probably do a lot of good too, it probably would in fact help curb traffic-related injuries and fatalities. It also nevertheless represents the inexorable march toward ever smaller and smaller smart-cages as more and more human behavior and agency must be cracked down on and regulated for the sake of technology's integration into society.
The problem's plain to see
Too much technology
Machines to save our lives
Machines dehumanize
- Styx, Mr. Roboto, 1983
 
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California is pretty. Visited it last month. However, live there?

I met a pretty based guy yesterday that was talking shit about the Castro district, liked jokes about niggers, and talked about why California needs to crash into the sea. I was like thank you. You are the Californian expat we need but maybe don't deserve.
 
Such a bug person.

"Why would anyone need to blast through an area at 15 mph over the speed limit?" asks a man who has never had to drive 1-5 on a regular basis.

Bruh, I got shit to do and Fresno is just getting in my way.
 
This is totally not gonna play out like the extra expensive version of China's red craze in 1966. Where everything is red. Even the traffic lights. Leading to a bunch of car accidents.

But leftoid retards are gonna leftoid retard. Like the Hillary hole placed in revolvers that any gunowner learns how to counteract.
 
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
My car has this system and it's hilariously inaccurate. Apparently it's a camera that attempts to read speed limit signs with a bad machine learning algo. Mine one time told me that the speed limit was 15 ... on the freeway.
 
When we recently rented a RAV4 while our car was in the shop, sometimes a little icon with the speed limit would show on the dash.
I ended up with both a Toyota and a Mitsubishi as rentals, and both had that feature, but it was apparently triggered by an internal front camera when going past a speed limit sign. If a semi-trailer was next to you as you past a sign indicating speed had changed, it wouldn’t indicate the increase. And if you started up and started driving, there wouldn’t be any speed indicated until you passed a speed limit sign.
 
And the buried lede here is just HOW this would even be possible.

In order to govern the car's speed to only 10mph above the posted limit, it would have to know what the limit is in that area. Meaning the car would have to know where it is at all times. And since newer cars are always connected back to corporate, the manufacturer knows where you are at all times. And if the manufacturer knows, the government will have a backdoor into that information. At all times.

This is a surveillance measure disguised as "public safety."

What absolute gobbledygook.
I for one trust the progressive government of California to certainly encrypt such information in a perpetually secure way and never use it except for its intended purpose.
 
Another horrifying thought I just had... This will make people even worse drivers than they already are. Why learn how to feather the throttle when you can just let your car limit how fast you can go? Retards will be using the accelerator as an on/off switch and just flooring it everywhere they go.


Car A goes past Highway patrol in some way that merits a pursuit
Highway Patrol car increases speed to 10 miles over the speed limit to try to catch up
Car A sees them coming and increases speed to the same cap
Assuming the governor is working correctly both cars will remain at the same distance from one another at the point where both hits their speed limit until one of them reduces speed. Catching the law breaking vehicle car is not possible without disabling the governor which, given the sort of people proposing these rules, will likely not be allowed.
You know as well as I do that this law wouldn't apply to "official" vehicles. Rules are for proles, not the aristocracy.
 
Suddenly I'm turning my truck into a Monster Truck. Your 10mph over limit just became 40+mph, Califags!
 
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