California could require car ‘governors’ that limit speeding to 10 mph over posted limits

By Ricardo Cano
Jan 24, 2024

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, including in cities such as San Francisco.
Laure Andrillon/Special to The Chronicle


California would become the first state to require new vehicles be equipped with speed governors — technology that limits how fast they can be driven — under legislation by San Francisco state Sen. Scott Wiener.

The bill, introduced Wednesday, would require cars and trucks of the 2027 model year or later that are built or sold in California to include speed governors that would prohibit motorists from driving more than 10 mph over posted speed limits.

The legislation aims to address the epidemic of traffic deaths in the Bay Area and California, Wiener said. Traffic fatalities rose during the pandemic in San Francisco and nationwide, and speed factors in about a third of traffic deaths across the country, according to the National Safety Council. The National Highway Safety Administration estimated more than 40,000 traffic fatalities in 2022.

“The tragic reality is that a lot of people are being severely injured or dying on our streets in San Francisco and throughout the country, and it’s getting worse,” Wiener told the Chronicle.

“We have speed limits, and they exist for a reason. And it’s perfectly reasonable to say you can’t travel more than 10 miles over the speed limit,” Wiener said. “That’s what this bill will do. It’s very reasonable, and it’s an idea whose time has come.”

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A new bill could require new cars in California to be installed with technology that limits them to drive no more than 10 mph over posted speed limits, in cities and on highways.
Lea Suzuki/The Chronicle


The legislation could have a sweeping effect on how people drive personal vehicles in California, if passed by the Legislature and signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom.

Cars subject to the speed-governor requirement wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 80 mph on state highways with a post 70 mph speed limit, for example. The bill would also apply to city driving as motorists wouldn’t be able to drive faster than 35 mph in quiet residential streets with 25 mph speed limits.

The bill exempts emergency vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks, from the speed-governor requirement. The California Highway Patrol would have the discretion to disable speed governors on their vehicles, “provided that the vehicle’s use is reasonable and would not pose a public safety risk,” according to a bill fact sheet.

Wiener’s speed-governor bill would also require trucks weighing more than 10,000 pounds to come equipped with side underride guards if they are built, sold or registered in California. Side guards are meant to prevent people and vehicles from getting swept under a large truck during a crash.

Also known as speed limiters or “Intelligent Speed Assistance,” some speed governors can use GPS technology or cameras to cap vehicle speeds based on where the car is driving. Several auto manufacturers, such as Hyundai, already offer speed governor features in their newest models, which some motorists utilize as a form of cruise control.

SPUR, the urban planning think-tank, Walk San Francisco and other street safety advocacy groups support Wiener’s legislation. Still, the bill is likely to face opposition from the auto industry and California motorists who may view the proposal as a form of state overreach.

The idea of capping how fast cars can be driven to curb traffic deaths is not a new one. Several highway safety groups have urged Congress to pass a federal requirement, and the National Transportation Safety Board last year recommended that the federal government “at a minimum” require speed limiters in cars that warn drivers when they’re speeding.

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You know as well as I do that this law wouldn't apply to "official" vehicles. Rules are for proles, not the aristocracy.
While true the article itself claims this is going to apply to some law enforcement. Given the hardon this state has for stopping police chasing/stopping criminals I'd imagine they will normally be included.
 
And the buried lede here is just HOW this would even be possible.

In order to govern the car's speed to only 10mph above the posted limit, it would have to know what the limit is in that area. Meaning the car would have to know where it is at all times. And since newer cars are always connected back to corporate, the manufacturer knows where you are at all times. And if the manufacturer knows, the government will have a backdoor into that information. At all times.

This is a surveillance measure disguised as "public safety."
The location of the vehicle is just the tip of the iceberg. Other data sent to corporate for processing includes, or will in the future include, sensor and camera telemetry from inside the cabin. The government can have access to this as well if it wants.
 
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Expect incoming lawsuit when someone dies because he couldn't be rushed into the hospital fast enough. Or someone having his car totaled because he couldn't overtake another car.
 
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There was already something passed recently that would put kill switches in cars, based on alcohol levels, I think. I remember Thomas Massie was railing against it.
 
The location of the vehicle is just the tip of the iceberg. Other data sent to corporate for processing includes, or will in the future include, sensor and camera telemetry from inside the cabin. The government can have access to this as well if it wants.
And let's not forget Nissan (I think it was) hiding in their reams of paperwork that data collected would include things like sexual activity.
 
Given that something like this would need real-time location data, what happens if the car loses connection for one reason or another while driving? Would it just lock up or slowly hit the breaks and brick the car?
 
And the buried lede here is just HOW this would even be possible.

In order to govern the car's speed to only 10mph above the posted limit, it would have to know what the limit is in that area. Meaning the car would have to know where it is at all times.
Nah, I test drove a car that had a camera for lane keep assist. Used that to display speed limit and reduce cruise control to speed limit every damn time you passed one.

So not really a requirement to have it linked to location
 
Nah, I test drove a car that had a camera for lane keep assist. Used that to display speed limit and reduce cruise control to speed limit every damn time you passed one.

So not really a requirement to have it linked to location
Oh but it will be required. Why? "Because what if the sign is missing or damaged? The only way to know for sure is to have a nationwide database and each vehicle's location matched against this database with real-time GPS coordinates. Strictly for reliability, of course. Nothing nefarious whatsoever going on here goys guys...."
 
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I support this because it's a fairly effective act of self punishment. I can only imagine the absolute hell already dogshit California interstates will be when everyone is forced to be an obnoxious slow driver in the passing lane the moment they enter it. I think their next step should be mandating the purchase of lotto tickets upon check out at gas stations.
 
A new industry would be created - disabling speed governors. Should CA require governors to be checked like they check for smog, then you'd see governors that could be turned on and off at will.
Watch that will invalidate the cars warranty or cause insurance to reject a claim. They have ways of making you obey. If they pull this shit however its well worth it. Time for people to decide what freedom really costs.
 
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