Law California exploring taxing text messages

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-to-consider-taxing-text-messages-reports-say

California state regulators have been working on a plan to charge mobile phone users a text messaging fee intended to fund programs that make phone service accessible to the low-income residents, reports said Tuesday.

The California Public Utilities Commission is scheduled to vote on the proposal next month, but critics have already come out against the scheme, the San Jose Mercury News reported.

“It’s a dumb idea,” Jim Wunderman, president of the Bay Area Council business group, told the paper. “This is how conversations take place in this day and age, and it’s almost like saying there should be a tax on the conversations we have.”

While the amount consumers would be expected to pay remained unclear, some business groups are saying the new charges could cost wireless users more than $44 million a year, FOX11 Los Angeles reported.

Charges may also be applied retroactively to messages sent in the past five years, which has raised questions concerning the proposal’s legality, Rufus Jeffress, vice president of the Bay Area Council, told the San Francisco Bay Area's KNTV-TV. The “alarming precedent” could chalk up to a bill of more than $220 million for consumers, the Mercury News reported.

The wireless industry argues that the fees would put carriers at a disadvantage since competing messaging services like Facebook’s Messenger and WhatsApp would not be charged the new fees, FOX11 reported.

Those against the proposal said that wireless customers already pay into the state’s Public Purpose Programs, which they call “healthy and well-funded” with nearly $1 billion in its budget, the Mercury News reported. But state regulators disagree, saying the budget has increased more than $300 million over six years, KNTV reported.

Residents lamented the potential tax, calling it “dumb” and “unfair.”

“To have them charge us something else is just dumb,” a Bay Area resident told KNTV. “I think it’s very unfair, especially for the people that can barely pay for their cell phone plan already.”
 
At this rate they'll implement a social credit system to stop the undesirables (ie non LA/Bay Area crazies) from leaving or even communicating that they hate the insane policies.

Every day my state finds new ways to make me feel like more of an idiot for not filing for refugee status somewhere else. I hope something changes eventually. I don't want to lose my home to these absolute lunatics

The problem is you might lose your home to the rising housing prices. I don't even live in the Bay Area, and housing prices where I live are being driven up by all the tech companies.
 
There was an additional article in USA Today (link / archive). According to it, the law that established the Federal Universal Service Fund also allows states to establish their own state-specific funds - answering the question I raised in my prior post.

California considers charging residents a tax for sending text messages
Dalvin Brown | USA TODAY
Published 2:30 PM EST Dec 12, 2018

California's Public Utilities Commission is considering a plan that would charge mobile phone users a fee for sending text messages, according to recent public law filings.

The proposal is partially due to landline-era legislation coupled with the fact the people are shifting patterns away from voice calls in favor of texting.

California is determining whether surcharges and user fees on text messaging comply with Public Purpose Programs, which use tax revenue to make telecommunications services accessible to low-income residents. The programs, which date to the 1930s, were given a face-lift in the late 1990s, allowing individual states to impose requirements to preserve what's referred to as a "universal service."

During the rise of the internet, the telecommunications industry was able to elude these taxes by offering "information services" like email and web browsing.

However, as mobile phone users shifted their behavior away from making phone calls, voice call revenue for these state programs has dropped by about a third, from $16.5 billion in 2011 to $11.3 billion in 2017, according to law filings.

Meanwhile, the budget for subsidizing poorer users has risen by almost half, from $670 million in 2011 to $998 million in 2017, the filings said.

The wireless industry argues added fees would put carriers at a higher disadvantage since messaging services like Apple's iMessage, WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger would not be charged under the proposed legislation.

The Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association, a trade organization that represents the U.S. wireless communications industry, said in legal filings to the California commission that it has "repeatedly" demonstrated that text messaging is, in fact, an information service.

"Subjecting wireless carriers’ text messaging traffic to surcharges that cannot be applied to the lion’s share of messaging traffic and messaging providers is illogical, anticompetitive and harmful to consumers," CTIA said in the filings.

While state regulators aren't scheduled to vote on the proposal until next month, wireless customers have taken to social media to express their concerns about the bill.

Twitter user @Myblueheavenn writes, "Of course California wants to tax your text messages. They would tax your toilet use if they could."

Twitter user @BartenderMB writes, "People need to realize that the proposed California texting tax could go back and tax you on text messages sent the past 5 years. Imagine getting a tax bill for all the text messages you've sent since 2013."

Follow Dalvin Brown on Twitter: @Dalvin_Brown

Published 2:30 PM EST Dec 12, 2018

Tl;DR - With fewer people using landlines and making traditional calls, revenue towards California's Universal Service Fund dropped by 33% over the past six years and subsidized phone services to low-income people increased 50%, prompting this proposal.

Given how many immigrants that settle in California with no ability - or desire - to support themselves, this isn't surprising.
 
Once again the world's "8th biggest economy" shows us they have no idea how they got to that point nor an understanding about spending.
If this is what the politicos in charge think is a good idea, what would they be doing if they were an independent nation? Taxing air? Charging people who entered 10 years the state prior?
 
If nobody in Cali pulls a Yellow Vest on this, then everyone there is a lolcow 100%.
Dude Calicucks VOTED, as in a actual referendum during the midterms, VOTED 60 TO 40 TO INCREASE GASOLINE TAXES in California.

These motherfuckers have everything that's coming to them.

However sadly they are protected by the United States Constitution.
US Constitution said:
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1

No State shall
enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
 
Really, on a practical level this will trigger a metastasization of the California cancer to other states via emigrants. In time, they too will become hell holes.
 
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Between this and that democratic faggot who wants to control speech, I hope California burns to the fucking ground. Cali is trash and approaching failed state levels.

Literal fake news, read the whole quote:

"It's a very good point you make," Lieu said. "I would love if I could have more than five minutes to question witnesses. Unfortunately, I don't get that opportunity. However, I would love to be able to regulate the content of speech. The First Amendment prevents me from doing so, and that's simply a function of the First Amendment, but I think over the long run, it's better the government does not regulate the content of speech."

He end the quote saying it's better the government doesn't control speech, how the media twisted that into "OMG HE WANTS TO CONTROL SPEECH", I'll never know.
 
He end the quote saying it's better the government doesn't control speech, how the media twisted that into "OMG HE WANTS TO CONTROL SPEECH", I'll never know.

Yeah, how ever could they have twisted this:
However, I would love to be able to regulate the content of speech.
into saying he wants to control speech. It's truly mystifying.
 
Most people I know actually send very few "true" text messages (i.e not iMessage/Facebook/Discord/WhatsApp) unless you're in a group text with a mix of iPhone and Android users. All this tax will do is punish the poor and tech illiterate.

Shame the state with the best weather in the nation is run by complete retards.
 
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