Californian Senate votes to make knowingly transmitting AIDS no longer a felony - AKA why Americans fucking hate Cali

http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...osing-others-to-hiv-1496281754-htmlstory.html

The state Senate on Wednesday voted to no longer make it a felony for someone infected with HIV to knowingly expose others to the disease by having unprotected sex without telling his or her partner about the infection.

The crime would be downgraded to a misdemeanor, and the bill would also apply to people who donate blood or semen without telling the blood or semen bank that they have acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, or AIDS, or have tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, the precursor to AIDS.

The measure, which next goes to the Assembly for consideration, was introduced by Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who said it is unfair to make HIV/AIDS the only communicable disease given such harsh treatment by prosecutors.

“These laws are irrational and discriminatory,” Wiener told the Senate, adding that the current felony status is “creating an incentive not to be tested, because if you don’t know your status you can’t be guilty of a felony.”

The measure was widely opposed by Republican lawmakers including Sen. Joel Anderson of San Diego. "If you intentionally transmit something that is fundamentally life-threatening to the victim, you should be charged and go to jail," he said.
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We're also having a serious identity crisis with what is legally considered a "violent felony" for the purposes of a new early release/time-served law meant to reduce prison overcrowding. Basically, if you didn't commit a violent felony then you can either be released from state prison early or not go there at all.

Unfortunately, what constitutes a violent felony is up for debate apparently and one Orange County Senator had to push an amendment (I believe it failed) meant to add some twenty-seven items to that list. Here are just a handful of things which Sacramento decided are not violent felonies:

--Assault with a deadly weapon
--Assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer, firefighter, or emergency responder (in some fairness if you try this then you'll probably just die anyway)
--Human trafficking of minors for sexual purposes
--Detonating an explosive device
--Discharging a firearm at an occupied building, dwelling, vehicle, or aircraft.
 
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I fully support calexit
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It's entirely possible it's actually still a felony to transmit AIDS knowingly even without this law, because causing grievous bodily harm is usually a crime in and of itself, and crimes that have that as part of them are felonies. Sometimes, practitioners of extreme BDSM have been prosecuted, and while sexual behavior is something where consent generally removes the sex crime aspect, consent isn't a defense for grievous bodily harm, just as one can't consent to being murdered.

I think there's no particularly good reason at this point for stigmatizing AIDS any more than it already is. The argument about it discouraging testing also actually makes sense. Suppose you're in a population that engages in risky sex acts that spread it. If you don't get tested, you will never be prosecuted for spreading it, but if you do get tested and you're positive, you're immediately guilty of a felony even if you have sex with a consenting partner who knows and you use a condom and it breaks, or whatever.

Plenty of people are going to choose not to get tested or treated until they're a lot more sick and a lot more expensive to treat.
 
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I remember watching a documentary on a morbidly interesting criminal case. A doctor forcibly injected a female coworker with HIV from an AIDS patient. A lot of evidence was compiled, including a testimony from the AIDS patient. The doctor asked for a sample of the patient before the attack and tried to hide that record. The doctor was arrested and put on trial. He was charged and convicted for MURDER, because that's what it is. Once you get AIDS, life is going to end much quicker. Why have we lowered our standards when it comes to Law and Order?
 
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Yeah. They should really make these guys secede on their own and build a wall there ASAP before Mexico.
 
I must say, FUCK SCOTT WEINER.

This piece of shit lgbt-sympathy vote baiting cunt, gladly endorsing bioterrorism under the guise of "ELL GEE BEE TEE RIHTZ" when most likely, this scum sucker has AIDS himself and wants to spread it without reprecussions.

Endangering the lives of millions of people, gay, straight, bisexual, or otherwise by disguising it as progressive change and calling laws punishing STD spreaders discriminatory.

Selfish dipshit probably thinks people don't get murderously furious about unknowingly having the rest of their lives ruined because someone they trusted enough to have sex with lied to them, and thinks that having NO legal punishment for the perpetrator won't cause CA murder and LGBT homicides rates to skyrocket. Specifically sending out millions of gay men to die along with him.

This would make what is essentially murder on the same level of bad as speeding or DUI.

And if you don't like it, well...you're a california-hating homophobe!

Bastard wasn't even born in Cali.

Once again, FUCK SCOTT WEINER, and FUCK the people running California.
 
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Replicant Sasquatch said:
The same Assembly which passed a massive new gas tax to fund Governor Moonbeam's bullshit train to nowhere?
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Lol while the California state assembly will pass anything requiring a tax increase with little-to-no consideration they aren't going to straight-up legalize spreading HIV. The legislators in Cali may be retarded to the Nth degree, but they aren't that retarded.

ADN_VIII said:
The train is a good idea, since the only highway that runs that same route is an old as dirt four lane. The problems with it stem from the decision to start breaking ground in winter.
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They could spend the funds required for said train to actually fix the roads between SF and LA and improve intra-state transit tenfold. I5 is so consistently terrible people routinely fly down there despite the cost because it's cheaper than driving along 101 or I5 and risking the serious vehicular damage likely to be incurred along the way.
 
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Absolutego said:
Lol while the California state assembly will pass anything requiring a tax increase with little-to-no consideration they aren't going to straight-up legalize spreading HIV. The legislators in Cali may be exceptional to the Nth degree, but they aren't that exceptional.


They could spend the funds required for said train to actually fix the roads between SF and LA and improve intra-state transit tenfold. I5 is so consistently terrible people routinely fly down there despite the cost because it's cheaper than driving along 101 or I5 and risking the serious vehicular damage likely to be incurred along the way.
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That new gas tax is supposed to go to the roads and freeways but that's what the last gas tax was for as well. And that was ten years ago. Also it's already getting leaked many officials are misappropriating the new tax money.

ADN_VIII said:
The train is a good idea, since the only highway that runs that same route is an old as dirt four lane. The problems with it stem from the decision to start breaking ground in winter.
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The train is a dumb fucking idea because no one in Sacramento has enough brain cells to handle anything. The Browndoggle is currently a decade behind schedule and a hundred billion dollars over budget and all they have to show for it is s couple forms suggesting where they might break ground once they get to that point.
 
TowinKarz said:
And it's not even really "California" that's the problem, just the hard blue areas in the cities that force everyone else to be "progressive" or GTFO. If they do somehow succeede in their petty little succession, I can't wait until the red areas of their new country say "HEy, great idea! Leaving behind a government that forces you to live in a way you'd rather not, see ya!"
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"What's the difference between Texas and California?"

"Texas is worth keeping."
 
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Replicant Sasquatch said:
That new gas tax is supposed to go to the roads and freeways but that's what the last gas tax was for as well. And that was ten years ago. Also it's already getting leaked many officials are misappropriating the new tax money.
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Well, yeah, misappropriating tax funds for pet projects is like California legislator 101. This is why there's a growing movement to vote down anything raising taxes because the local populace has zero faith in their elected officials actually spending the money where they said they would.

Marvin said:
Split California up.
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Six states is excessive, and that initiative in particular was designed not to create viable, stable independent states but to balkanize California into smaller one-party governments for Tim Draper to bribe easily. At most California should be 3 regions: the Bay Area and surrounding places along the middle coast, Southern California, and a Northern/Central valley state (hopefully with a less terrible name than Jefferson).
 
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Absolutego said:
Yep, same man. Honestly him coming back to be Governor again in 2010 should've been recognized as a warning that the Democratic party was out of ideas.
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How are the suede-denim secret police working out for you?

OK, OT I know.
 
Absolutego said:
Well, yeah, misappropriating tax funds for pet projects is like California legislator 101. This is why there's a growing movement to vote down anything raising taxes because the local populace has zero faith in their elected officials actually spending the money where they said they would.



Six states is excessive, and that initiative in particular was designed not to create viable, stable independent states but to balkanize California into smaller one-party governments for Tim Draper to bribe easily. At most California should be 3 regions: the Bay Area and surrounding places along the middle coast, Southern California, and a Northern/Central valley state (hopefully with a less terrible name than Jefferson).
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I think you put too much faith in the California electorate. We overwhelmingly support just about every tax hike Sacramento pushes. Just look at that crooked single payer healthcare bill everyone was cheering even though it'll cost twice our annual budget every year. We'll be begging Trump for a bailout by 2020 then get furious when he says he's not giving money to the state which threatened to quit the fucking US simply because he got elected.
 
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