Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

Of all the WW2 inaccuracies in Vanguard, the scene with Kinsley being captured and bragging to his faction of "marrying their women" has to be the worst one yet.
Not only the Vanguard writers pushed the "muh dick" stuff but they also rewrote history. Black soldiers weren't "marrying" german women, they were raping them.

I think American Krogan talked about it in his Vanguard review/analysis.
 
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Pre ordering MW2019 got you Price in Black Ops 4, pre ordering Cold War got you Woods in MW2019/Warzone, Pre ordering Vanguard got you Arthur in Warzone/Cold War

Pre ordering MWII gets you this for Vanguard.

Apparently the pre order redemption happened after it released, so some retards bought this before they got it for free too.
 
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Might as well just rename Vanguard to Call of Duty: ADHD Edition.

Because apparently they can't stick to the theme they pitch at all. I really hate Battlefield Vagina, but at least they stayed within the timeframe and didn't do their utmost to pretend it wasn't a WW2 game.
 
Might as well just rename Vanguard to Call of Duty: ADHD Edition.

Because apparently they can't stick to the theme they pitch at all. I really hate Battlefield Vagina, but at least they stayed within the timeframe and didn't do their utmost to pretend it wasn't a WW2 game.
The most pathetic thing about it is that the original leaks for Vanguard back like a year ago claimed it would be a World War II game that went beyond the 40's. People theorized this meant it would be an alt history game or something, but now it looks like the idea was always what they're doing and it's just being done in the dumbest and least thought out way possible.
 
The most pathetic thing about it is that the original leaks for Vanguard back like a year ago claimed it would be a World War II game that went beyond the 40's. People theorized this meant it would be an alt history game or something, but now it looks like the idea was always what they're doing and it's just being done in the dumbest and least thought out way possible.
It could have worked if it was only a decade or less beyond WW2's original end. Alt history was the only concept that might have saved BFV, and Resistance had some weird alien Japs story iirc.

Haven't cared much for CoD for over a decade now, but the info revealed for Vanguard never looked good even then. I think the Diversity Crew was the initial red flag that it was going to stink. If you can't present something in its historical context without woke revisionism, you don't have the priorities in place to make a good game.
 
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And you played arguably the best WW2 Cod. For when that game was made it has a nice amount of variety and locations you see throughout the campaign. The characters are cheesy but the good kind that you actually form a bond with over missions instead of cut scenes.

It also has an amazing plane mission that has you operate all parts of a B-24 Liberator.

And the D-Day level is nuts.

All the way to the snow covered German hills to take out the V2 rockets.
Good game, hope Microsoft can get it playable on Xbox once the Activision acquisition goes through.
 
When does the acquisition fall through? I doubt they would remake PS2 CoDs.
They could make a special case and add it to the backwards compatibility program, Big Red One was released for the OG Xbox.

No idea when the acquisition goes through, could be the Fall or early half of 2023.
 
I wanna tell him that he's got the wrong door , that the leather club is , in fact , two blocks down.
What the fuck even is Vanguard supposed to be anymore? I know Cold War got a little screwy with its cosmetics, but that game at least stuck to the 1980s with the guest star characters. Vanguard had somewhat period adjacent shit like King Kong & Godzilla (from the 30s and 50s, so it's not as fucky as the other shit), but then it had anime characters, Krampus, a time traveling rapper, T-800s and T-1000s from Terminator, this BDSM looking motherfucker, and now seems tied to the 1970s. Am I wrong to suspect Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader to drop by at some point?

This game treats WWII like such a joke that it makes Battlefield V seem almost reverent in comparison, and that game had cyborg arms.
 
What the fuck even is Vanguard supposed to be anymore?
It's content for contents sake, I'm pretty sure.

There were rumors that Activision didn't have faith in it and considered shelving it, but if that were true I'd assume that there was too much invested in it to just *not* release it.

But the lack of faith in it would really explain a lot. The lazy use of licensing for content. The way the multiplayer storyline just jumps around without explaining anything or leading into the next.

Feels like Activision just wanted them to get it out the door and now it's being managed by a skeleton crew cause they know few give a shit. Honestly will be amazed if Sledgehammer is given *another* chance after all these fuck ups.
 
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This game treats WWII like such a joke that it makes Battlefield V seem almost reverent in comparison, and that game had cyborg arms.
That was just marketing. There's no actual cyborg arm cosmetic in single player or multiplayer.


But the lack of faith in it would really explain a lot. The lazy use of licensing for content. The way the multiplayer storyline just jumps around without explaining anything or leading into the next.
I never understood why Warzone needed a lore. It's just watching long cutscenes while you wait to spawn or hunt down the next enemy.

Important question: is SBMM still a thing in Vanguard like in MW2019?
 
That was just marketing. There's no actual cyborg arm cosmetic in single player or multiplayer.
I know it didn't make it to the final product, but they planned on it until the backlash got to be too much for them to handle. The fact that DICE even considered such a thing showed how little they cared for the setting, so for Sledgehammer to somehow manage to make them look respectful in comparison is astounding.

I mocked DICE for the Phantom of the Opera and Female Psycho Mantis, yet here comes Sledgehammer with fucking Terminators...
 
I never understood why Warzone needed a lore. It's just watching long cutscenes while you wait to spawn or hunt down the next enemy.
It's the same logic as Saturday morning cartoons in the 80's. It helps promote the battle pass/operators/weapons/skins so they can hopefully sell more. Think of Call of Duty seasons as seasons of GI Joe, Transformers or He-Man.

That's why even though it's all stupid extra shit, Vanguard has become so egregious. They can't even keep up the pretense of the "story" and it's *just* characters they're trying to sell showing up and shooting at each other. There's no effort to it at all.
 
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So once they finish the MW remakes, whats the betting on them remaking the BO series, while churning out new BO games?
Imagine a Black Ops 1 remake but the first mission is actually, Castro good.
 
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Honestly will be amazed if Sledgehammer is given *another* chance after all these fuck ups.
If the rumors of them taking COD off the yearly cycles is true, there's a chance Sledgehammer could go back to being a support studio.

Or maybe Microsoft would let them work on other things, I'm morbidly curious how they'd handle Halo compared to 343...
 
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So once they finish the MW remake
I mean, they're not remakes, so who is to say they will ever "finish" them?

If the rumors of them taking COD off the yearly cycles is true, there's a chance Sledgehammer could go back to being a support studio.
I'm pretty sure the only reason they would take 2023 off is because the Cold War debacle screwed the whole system up. It's also why Vanguard got pushed out in the sorry state it was in. They were not going to take IW off Modern Warfare II to fix another Sledgehammer mistake and Treyarch couldn't fix Vanguard because they were already working on Cold War.
 
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I mean, they're not remakes, so who is to say they will ever "finish" them?


I'm pretty sure the only reason they would take 2023 off is because the Cold War debacle screwed the whole system up. It's also why Vanguard got pushed out in the sorry state it was in. They were not going to take IW off Modern Warfare II to fix another Sledgehammer mistake and Treyarch couldn't fix Vanguard because they were already working on Cold War.
I thought it was either Cold War or Vanguard that got cobbled together to make up for Sledgehammer & Raven's breakup?

Regardless, taking COD off that schedule should reduce the chances of that kind of clusterfuck from happening again (right?).
 
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