Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

MrJokerRager said:
Apparently they changing round 1 of Nazi Zombies, you longer started with the M1911A1, now you can use any AR in round 1 as they said.



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Good to see old Cyclops again, I suppose he was too focused on paranormal shit to get involved with Menendez.

So long as there's less focus on cryptic easter egg nonsense to progress, I think I'm going to like this version of Zombies.
 
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Vault Boy said:
Good to see old Cyclops again, I suppose he was too focused on paranormal shit to get involved with Menendez.

So long as there's less focus on cryptic easter egg nonsense to progress, I think I'm going to like this version of Zombies.
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Blundells gone so the dumb multiverse and lore stuff should be out I hope.
 
Btw, the TV Tropes page really doesn't like how the game used Yuri Bezmenov for rather predictable reasons:

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Call Of Duty Black Ops Cold War / YMMV - TV Tropes

Unfortunate Implications: The uncritical use of the Yuri Bezmenov interview for the trailer takes a really dark turn considering that even without it's full context, the trailer is essentially vilifying all anti-establishment protest movements …
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  • Unfortunate Implications: The uncritical use of the Yuri Bezmenov interview for the trailer takes a really dark turn considering that even without it's full context, the trailer is essentially vilifying all anti-establishment protest movements between the 1980s and the present as a Communist Plot. It effectively dismisses the legitimate grievances of people against systemic oppression and Imperialistic warmongering as useful idiots for the Anti-Semitic Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.

Of Course, this ignores that Yuri Bezmenov was saying what Right-Wingers wanted to hear in regards to Left-Wing movements, claiming they were all part of a Communist Plot. Because protests against foreign wars and Civil Rights abuses could have never arisen from the government's abuses of power and could only have been stoked by foreign agitators.
 
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If I might ask, are you more of a Battlefield guy? Something I've noticed is that the people who really like the way MW2019 plays are the ones who came over from BF or players who are new to the franchise, whereas people who've played CoD since ~BO2 tend to hate it with a passion. It's been interesting to watch both sides go at it. (Even if I have to visit R*ddit to see it.)
I put this down to MW playing slower and more ""tactical"" (read: sitting inside a door with a shotgun instead of rushing), where most other CoDs allow both slow and rushing playstyles. The game was built to cater to lower skill levels, and has many, many problems for people on the higher end of the skill curve. This also resulted in CDL pros unilaterally hating the game. (To the point where Seattle Surge player Octane was fined multiple times because Activision got butthurt about the criticism. Octane ended up posting a clip to Twitter of him deleting MW after getting knocked out of champs.)
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Not that guy but I used to be really into CoD but stopped buying them after ghosts. The last one I played was one of the later ones with advanced movement at a friends house which I hated. MW2019 piqued my interest and has been the CoD I have logged the most playtime in since CoD4.

The game is certainly flawed and certainly does cater to lower skilled players but a lot of the complaints I see around camping are literally git gud tier. For example you mentioned camping a door with a shotgun.
The game gives you more than enough tools to circumvent said camper (flashbangs, stuns and motion tracker) but a lot players will choose to beat their head against the wall by rushing him until they score the lucky kill and then get mad at him for camping when they are the ones rewarding his playstyle. I see this a lot, I have been in games where my team gets utterly stomped and they accuse the other team of cheating because of some really lucky plays when in reality the other team has had near constant UAV coverage because nobody ever bothers to shoot killstreaks down outside of challenge grinding. That isn't to say rushing isn't viable (The MK2 carbine is the most broken weapon in the game with the right setup but shhh) you just have to be more aware, learn the common camp spots and use your equipment for gods sake. There is nothing more depressing then watching the other team getting play of the game because your team chooses to follow each other into the sights of a guy with an LMG without so much as throwing a flashbang.
 
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I see this a lot, I have been in games where my team gets utterly stomped and they accuse the other team of cheating because of some really lucky plays when in reality the other team has had near constant UAV coverage because nobody ever bothers to shoot killstreaks down outside of challenge grinding.
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I noticed that a lot in Black Ops 2 and MW3, it seemed like I was the only one with a RPG taking down UAVs and other scorestreaks. Everybody was running around like chickens without their heads.
 
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That's one of the my only real contributions to my team in every game. I think it's Black Ops II where I had like a 25x Buzzkill award match from clearing the skies of scorestreaks.

I always take an anti-UAV weapon as my second. It's like, what is my loser butt ever going to do with a pistol?

Even in Ghosts where they didn't have UAVs but those ground sensors, I took the thing (perk maybe) that shorted them out as you ran by.
 
Here is some gameplay by jackfrags. The gameplay looks fresh but needs some work. Like the American faction should get the M60 Patton to counter the Soviet T-72. Apparently both factions get the T-72 tank.

For any tank people here, was the M60 Patton a good tank or just a M48A5 on steroids?

They could also give the American faction the British FV4201 Chieftain tank if the M60 is too underpowered for the T-72.

 
Im playing Cold War the rush job is clear here. We can shit on MW2019 all we can but you cant deny the level of polish IW gave that game I know some guys say "its not like old COD" but cold war is so clunky its just so odd to me. Everything feels so half assed from the gunsmith to even the dumb operators. IW at least gave you faction specific operators unlike currently in cold war with Woods being both on the CIA and Spetsnaz team.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
Here is some gameplay by jackfrags. The gameplay looks fresh but needs some work. Like the American faction should get the M60 Patton to counter the Soviet T-72. Apparently both factions get the T-72 tank.

For any tank people here, was the M60 Patton a good tank or just a M48A5 on steroids?

They could also give the American faction the British FV4201 Chieftain tank if the M60 is too underpowered for the T-72.

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The M60 did well against the T72s during the first Gulf War.

iceteayo said:
Im playing Cold War the rush job is clear here. We can shit on MW2019 all we can but you cant deny the level of polish IW gave that game I know some guys say "its not like old COD" but cold war is so clunky its just so odd to me. Everything feels so half assed from the gunsmith to even the dumb operators. IW at least gave you faction specific operators unlike currently in cold war with Woods being both on the CIA and Spetsnaz team.
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I'm not a big fan of "future' war fighting and Black Ops 3 pushed the dial way too far in that direction.

Black Ops 4 brought it back a bit but with enough plausible gadgets that it didn't seem bad, at least until the double jumping rocket shoes in the later Blackout modes.

When I first got MW2019 it wasn't my cup of tea, I preferred the bright world of BO4 and especially Blackout.

But the more I gave it a go the more I enjoyed it, especially Warzone. I don't like Warzone as much as Blackout, but it isn't bad.

I like the opening and closing of the doors, this was a real innovation that totally changed gameplay.
 
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ShortBusDriver said:
I'm not a big fan of "future' war fighting and Black Ops 3 pushed the dial way too far in that direction.

Black Ops 4 brought it back a bit but with enough plausible gadgets that it didn't seem bad, at least until the double jumping rocket shoes in the later Blackout modes.

When I first got MW2019 it wasn't my cup of tea, I preferred the bright world of BO4 and especially Blackout.

But the more I gave it a go the more I enjoyed it, especially Warzone. I don't like Warzone as much as Blackout, but it isn't bad.

I like the opening and closing of the doors, this was a real innovation that totally changed gameplay.
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I just think the gun system, animations, and even presentation are a step above and it is why I personally think MW2019 put COD back on the map. People say MW2019 is slow but like Cold War feels so god damn clunky its crazy not even Bo4 was this clunky.
 
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Any idea why tactical reloading (ADS reload) doesn't apply to LMGs and pistols?

Maybe I'm misremembering, but MW had that for every gun, so what's the deal here?
 
Vault Boy said:
Any idea why tactical reloading (ADS reload) doesn't apply to LMGs and pistols?

Maybe I'm misremembering, but MW had that for every gun, so what's the deal here?
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I've never tried it with an LMG now that you mention it but I could see it not being a thing since you'd need to use two hands to reload a belt fed LMG.

I never really used LMGs in MW2019 except for the MG34 which I love, and the drum magazine fed HK G36.

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I went and tried reloading a belt fed LMG in MW2019 and it doesn't work, your character just does the normal reload animation.

iceteayo said:
I just think the gun system, animations, and even presentation are a step above and it is why I personally think MW2019 put COD back on the map. People say MW2019 is slow but like Cold War feels so god damn clunky its crazy not even Bo4 was this clunky.
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I would chalk some of that up to it being a beta

I'm on an Xbox One so I haven't been able to play yet.

Someone over on Reddit (shutter) found a Makarov in Warzone playing MW2019, It's obviously meant for Cold War but several comments noted that it didn't seem like all of the animations were there.

 
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Haven't played since MW2 and gave Cold War beta a try. Pretty fun for what it is, but seems very.. Minimalistic? Unless they've hidden 2/3 of perks and weapons, it seems pretty raw. Like, early mmorpg release without raids. Then I went on the subreddit and read that MW is superior in every way (both cost the same launch price, thanks Battle.net), but is full of bright meme skins and all kinds of shit.

Is it worth getting MW over Cold War? Will MW still get updates? It feels bad to drop in so late, but if the alternative is a severely unpolished game set in a boring war period, eh.
 
MrJokerRager said:
For any tank people here, was the M60 Patton a good tank or just a M48A5 on steroids?
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It was a very good tank, and was a quite good match considering it entered service a full decade before the T-72 did. For anything in the same time period it would need to be the M60A1 (AOS), and that isn't even fair for the T-72 since the M60A1 was designed to fight the much more expensive and capable T-64.
 
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Apparently there's a co-op mode that will be a one-year exclusive on PS4/5.

 
The Last Stand said:
Again with this exclusivity crap? And it'll still be full price for other platforms.
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Remember back when it was about month long exclusive map packs with Microsoft? Sony's been acting like a bunch of shitheads when it comes to temporary exclusives, I still remember that bullshit they pulled with the first Destiny (a one year strike and weapons deal that got extended by another goddamn year at the last second).
 
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