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[Gloria The Glorious]

Ah, conversation about media where people with disagreements try to understand what the fuck the other is saying. I unironically love Every Page An Explanation.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Yes, but that is all in line with what I said, the show doesn't criticize woke and take shots at both sides as many "anti-woke" reviewers claimed, it in fact promotes it by pinning any problems on people in power not being committed enough. This is a wedge, their argument is these managerial liberal companies are ran by people who aren't committed enough to our progressive values. Can't you see how they cover up sexual harassment of women? Can't you see how they use black people as marketing tools instead of promoting them for diversity and because we owe them that? And the proposed solution that would be ready-made presented by media would be as it always has been in the last decades, pumping in more progressive management offices that can exert pressure on the control structure of those companies. Effectively the argument is "Wow look how shit this is, it's only shit because there's not enough progressivism" or "Real progressivism has never been tried" if you like that one better.


I mean you can't really wrap a whole episode going after Christians and portraying them as hypocrites as being background noise, and if you want to go back to "wow the comics were like that too" then I find that kinda funny considering that they changed a bunch of things that would have been unpalatable from the comics but apparently left this over.

Leaving in things that suit your progressive narrative but replacing/editing ones that run counter or offend your sensibilities, hmmm... It's almost like it's not exactly a non-ideological show.

So yeah season 1 is less overt, but it was clear to me watching it what the message and the direction of the show is.

Ultimately what this all goes to show is we're never going to get quality entertainment. Actually, I won't say "never" because you never say never, but the reality is that folks at the top just aren't hiring talent or by merit. All they want is troons, fags, pedos, and the like. Just a monkey-house where the animals are all smearing poo on the walls and calling it art and telling you ought to like it or you're racist something-a-phobic.

 

[Hankus McSix]

So I found this video about something that happened on New Years Efap that I missed since, I am really not interested in wtaching Efap anymore. The person is this video is WAY too charitable to Efap in my opinion. I don't like Doomer he's a sperg but his anger is 100% justified considering how the situation devolved

Another showcase of Efap being a bunch of dogpiling faggots, that bully anyone who disagrees with them when they have the advantage. Added bonus of Fringy showing himself further as a fucking pearl clutching autistic retard that demands Doomer explain himself after he states a preference in personal opinion. Pushing him untill he makes a claim that he can attack fully cause it's not stated to be a personal opinion. And even then it's a statement of personal experience.

Fringy gets weird like this a lot I listened back to some older clips and it stood out to me as he gets into arguments when people say "I didn't like -Insert game Fringy likes-" they never say it's bad or anything just that they personally didn't like it. I know these fags are about objectivity above anything but subjective feelings on media still exist and they can be stated freely without the fear of the entire cast dogpiling you cause they're children that can't have mature disagreements.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

It seems that Critical Drinker is now going to war with Synthetic Man

So the tard who is constantly complaining about wokeness is now screeching about another guy complaining about wokeness. Fuck Testerical Stinker and his Mauler cock sucking.

 

[Shieldman]

If you'd like, you can give me examples of them criticizing some actual progressive principle instead of just the execution of it by corporations. That would be a good way to exonerate s1

Don't want to enter a multi-paragraph debate, but all you need to do is watch Kripke's (and most of the cast) interviews and behind the scenes and the notion of "both sides" should evaporate instantly. Dude is swimming in the Kool-Aid.

The show will go with something like:
"The evil capitalists are using BLM to con you!"
When the plot point should be:
"BLM IS A CON"
This might be too subtle a point for your average right leaning commentator. This show is pissing in their mouths and they are loving it.

Comic had some eye-rolling moments too, but I prefer it over the tv show.

One fun thing is, I would have really liked Mauler to do his video focusing on The Boys S2 (one of many cancelled video ideas), just to see how that argument would have gone.

 

[WootieWot]

So I found this video about something that happened on New Years Efap that I missed since, I am really not interested in wtaching Efap anymore. The person is this video is WAY too charitable to Efap in my opinion. I don't like Doomer he's a sperg but his anger is 100% justified considering how the situation devolved

Another showcase of Efap being a bunch of dogpiling faggots, that bully anyone who disagrees with them when they have the advantage. Added bonus of Fringy showing himself further as a fucking pearl clutching autistic retard that demands Doomer explain himself after he states a preference in personal opinion. Pushing him untill he makes a claim that he can attack fully cause it's not stated to be a personal opinion. And even then it's a statement of personal experience.

Fringy gets weird like this a lot I listened back to some older clips and it stood out to me as he gets into arguments when people say "I didn't like -Insert game Fringy likes-" they never say it's bad or anything just that they personally didn't like it. I know these fags are about objectivity above anything but subjective feelings on media still exist and they can be stated freely without the fear of the entire cast dogpiling you cause they're children that can't have mature disagreements.

I watched the debate from the video and here's what I gathered;

Mauler calls Doomer a donkey

Rags imply Doomer has a low IQ.

Mauler plays silly music in the background as to make it seem like Doomer is the clown fool.

Mauler is aggressive and raises his tone which increases the atmosphere of hostility towards Doomer.

Mauler calls him a bitch.

Mauler calls what he says insane.

Mauler and others laugh at him multiple times. Disrespectful, especially when he's supposed to be one of their guests.

With all that said, of course, Doomer's reaction is going to be a defensive one, how could it not be when he got multiple people ganging up on him and putting him on the spot,
calling him a donkey, a bitch, stupid, etc.

And the fucking autist had to turn this into a debate. Doomer might have not expressed himself thoroughly but he made it quite clear that he just doesn't care about stories in video games and plays them for the gameplay, so what? Who cares? There are many people like Doomer who just play games casually. Why did they feel the need to turn it into a debate and have him explain his position thoroughly with examples and whatnot? And they already set the tone of this debate they unnecessarily initiated with their initial reaction being not of curiosity but of dumbfoundedness and also a bit of hostility towards Doomer, setting it pretty clear from the get-go for the audience who's the one with a dumb shit 'take'. Even Mauler says from the very beginning ''I asked you for a bad take two hours ago I didn't say now", and this was before Doomer would go on to explain himself further, this is probably what put him in a defensive mode from the get-go.

 

[Kars den Karb]

It's been a while since I watched s1, but I'm pretty sure those examples I gave are right from the show, there's a scene where they talk about bringing in another black hero for the marketing with the urban community, most of starlight's stuff touches on this, with the costume, interviews etc. The whole narrative spins around the idea that corps are dishonest about their wokeness and just do it to appease the populace or something, which is basically reverse of reality.

It's one throwaway scene and it's not part of the central conflicts, not a big deal. As far as conversations between underlings scrambling over scraps from Blackrock, or even between the management of CNN, it's not unrealistic either. In the real world, agents explicitly market their talent based on race, and writers and actors are openly hired based on race, social media stats, etc.

The part you're alluding to is the C-suite people who impose diversity mandates on their content a la the leaked zoom calls (were they even leaked?) where one Disney exec with a trans kid set a goal of 50% LGBT representation. I agree, this isn't in the show. Do I care? Not really. There is always talk about the Overton window shifting left, but I think it would be more accurate to say that the US and the West in general is splitting along radical strains. Release valves like this show, or Drinker's content (so to speak), create a permissive environment for deeper, truer explanations to propagate. The powers that be manage and massage the facts, but polling data shows people's awareness of the JQ is higher than ever.

People on the committed right usually get upset when big names in the conservasphere don't let them mount the battlements and declare Bill Gates is drinking the blood of orphans. This betrays a misunderstanding of human socialization. There are some truths that are so cutting that the mind is not ready to swallow them whole, and that shouldn't be a surprise: we're talking about myths that are 70 years in the making. One must progress through varying levels of influence networks before they're willing to admit that the emperor has no clothes.

To answer your loaded question about starlight. Yeah it is leftist, because the kind of role model she wants to be is a modern emancipated woman and that's fundamentally something leftist pushed for and maintain.

Starlight's realistic counterpart is not some childless career woman, it's an athlete crossed with a Disney starlet. This is made clear early in the show when Seven host a meet-and-greet at A-train's race event, which is actually when she objects to her skimpy costume. To call this a Strong Independent Woman, you're essentially attacking women in sports and entertainment.

 

[Schway]

The part you're alluding to is the C-suite people who impose diversity mandates on their content a la the leaked zoom calls (were they even leaked?) where one Disney exec with a trans kid set a goal of 50% LGBT representation. I agree, this isn't in the show. Do I care? Not really. There is always talk about the Overton window shifting left, but I think it would be more accurate to say that the US and the West in general is splitting along radical strains. Release valves like this show, or Drinker's content (so to speak), create a permissive environment for deeper, truer explanations to propagate. The powers that be manage and massage the facts, but polling data shows people's awareness of the JQ is higher than ever.

People on the committed right usually get upset when big names in the conservasphere don't let them mount the battlements and declare Bill Gates is drinking the blood of orphans. This betrays a misunderstanding of human socialization. There are some truths that are so cutting that the mind is not ready to swallow them whole, and that shouldn't be a surprise: we're talking about myths that are 70 years in the making. One must progress through varying levels of influence networks before they're willing to admit that the emperor has no clothes.

I don't really think you're attempting to understand what I'm saying so as far as I'm concerned we can call the discussion here, it's been veering off to being off topic for a bit now anyway. I do want to respond to this bit though because I believe this is the most important part to understand.

CD is not creating a permissive environment, this was the point of my post a while back. He is actively gatekeeping his audience and herding them into the safe "anti-woke" stance that is ineffective. This is shown in how he parrots the ideas of "Wow some people think everything is Woke!" in his GOW review. I understand the idea of a funnel or pipeline where some people have mild content that is toned down and eventually leads people to the more extreme/true content, but a part of being that pipeline is to not shit on people further down the line, CD actively corrals his audience away from that and anyone that does end up going down that pipeline would have done so and do so quicker if CD was not in the picture. To borrow movie reviewer talk he's a red herring.

To call this a Strong Independent Woman, you're essentially attacking women in sports and entertainment.

I am?

Based .... so Zased.

Another showcase of Efap being a bunch of dogpiling faggots, that bully anyone who disagrees with them when they have the advantage. Added bonus of Fringy showing himself further as a fucking pearl clutching autistic retard that demands Doomer explain himself after he states a preference in personal opinion. Pushing him untill he makes a claim that he can attack fully cause it's not stated to be a personal opinion. And even then it's a statement of personal experience.

I get that mauler and co are faggots, but it's really baffling to me that they do shit like this. You invite someone to your show and they're ostensibly someone you're amicable with, why pressure them like this to try to make them look retarded? Arguing is fine but they're actively trying to attack the guy, and mauler as a host should have the wits about him to step in and control the situation since he can tell it's a dogpile.

People have said this before in the thread but I'm continually astonished at how toned down and quiet Mauler gets when someone disagrees with him, or says something he thinks is untrue when he is alone and or the person is higher clout, vs when he can bully them with his 3-5 butt buddies. Really scumbag behaviour.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Jesus Christ I didn't realize that this thread was where we dropped our scripts for the Mauler videos we were writing. I ain't reading all this shit.

 

[RonPaul2008]

"I don't give a fuck." *posts 10 paragraphs*

I enjoy this website.

Don't want to enter a multi-paragraph debate, but all you need to do is watch Kripke's (and most of the cast) interviews and behind the scenes and the notion of "both sides" should evaporate instantly. Dude is swimming in the Kool-Aid.

The show will go with something like:
"The evil capitalists are using BLM to con you!"
When the plot point should be:
"BLM IS A CON"
This might be too subtle a point for your average right leaning commentator. This show is pissing in their mouths and they are loving it.

Comic had some eye-rolling moments too, but I prefer it over the tv show.

One fun thing is, I would have really liked Mauler to do his video focusing on The Boys S2 (one of many cancelled video ideas), just to see how that argument would have gone.

kripke's a faggot, and thats why the show isn't relevant anymore. It was relevant because of the source material extrapolated against a backdrop of Marvel's cartoony james gunn/joss whedon quip slop and DC/Zack Snyder's brooding but ultimately empty and meaningless nonsense. What made the first season hit was its criticism of heroes and corporations. Believe me the point its made by Amazon as a means of getting people to buy prime is not lost on me at all.
Fundamentally the issue is that Hollywood is a bunch of globohomo propaganda and over time all of the people making money criticizing that will start to become more normie and cucked to keep their income rolling in.
Even SLC Punk back in the day pointed it out. Heroin Bob died a punk and his buddy "bought in" when he realized that the punk "scene" like the hippie scene before it or whatever else that comes after is just as bankrupt as the corpo world.

CD is not creating a permissive environment, this was the point of my post a while back. He is actively gatekeeping his audience and herding them into the safe "anti-woke" stance that is ineffective.

I agree to a certain extent but there are two sides of that point of view.
One side is yes it could be that hes trying to "play it safe" and "keep it safe".
The other is that at a certain point there is such a thing as a "purity spiral" that would then actually make something shit again but in the opposite direction. That is to say if there was something that an artist wanted to show like violence, sensuality, or something immoral that was intrinsic to the story that they wanted to tell, they wouldn't be able to do it.
So if your'e trying to ask people to be more political than creative when they're creatives, it's understandable why they would chafe at those bindings that are preventing them from expressing X or Y.
This could be solved by having any level of consistency in terms of principles but that doesn't seem to be the case in the modern era where everyone would rather argue about bullshit and cancel each other over things.
(but to be honest its not like there weren't commies in the 40s and 50s and their enemies trying to cancel them so maybe this is consistent behavior that is on a pendulum)

Almost all based film ideas and themes have to be smuggled in since the corporate world wants to sanitize it as much as they can.

 

[Kars den Karb]

I don't really think you're attempting to understand what I'm saying so as far as I'm concerned we can call the discussion here, it's been veering off to being off topic for a bit now anyway. I do want to respond to this bit though because I believe this is the most important part to understand.

CD is not creating a permissive environment, this was the point of my post a while back. He is actively gatekeeping his audience and herding them into the safe "anti-woke" stance that is ineffective. This is shown in how he parrots the ideas of "Wow some people think everything is Woke!" in his GOW review. I understand the idea of a funnel or pipeline where some people have mild content that is toned down and eventually leads people to the more extreme/true content, but a part of being that pipeline is to not shit on people further down the line, CD actively corrals his audience away from that and anyone that does end up going down that pipeline would have done so and do so quicker if CD was not in the picture. To borrow movie reviewer talk he's a red herring.

The GOW:R review is concerning. I'll have to reevaluate if he continues down that path.

Other than that, though, there's no basis to infer intention, certainly not this dark. We've gone from grifting to a Jordan Peterson-esque plot to defuse conservatism, although Drinker's identity as a blockbuster enjoyer who grew up in the 80s is more than sufficient to explain pithy spankings of awful movies. I think this is self-evident if you've ever known one of his fans.

(To touch on Mauler for a second: he's very personally invested in GOW:R for a grifter who supposedly knows in his heart of hearts that it's bad. The tendentiousness of his arguments suggests that he's just a myopic dummy.)

As far as being part of an influence ecosystem, that doesn't require intention either. The left has ran this playbook for a long time, with a dedicated core taking advantage of current circumstances.

I am?

Based .... so Zased.

This is the problem with right-wing messaging in a nutshell. In just a couple beats this discussion went from "female role models are sus" to "maybe female autonomy is sus." It becomes a contest to double down on the most radical conclusion. Not very persuasive.

 

[PaladinBoo]

I get that mauler and co are faggots, but it's really baffling to me that they do shit like this. You invite someone to your show and they're ostensibly someone you're amicable with, why pressure them like this to try to make them look retarded? Arguing is fine but they're actively trying to attack the guy, and mauler as a host should have the wits about him to step in and control the situation since he can tell it's a dogpile.

People have said this before in the thread but I'm continually astonished at how toned down and quiet Mauler gets when someone disagrees with him, or says something he thinks is untrue when he is alone and or the person is higher clout, vs when he can bully them with his 3-5 butt buddies. Really scumbag behaviour.

This is why I say that Mauler is just like Ralph. Remember, Ralph only dunked on Mundane Matt because he had the back up of big YouTubers like Keemstar, Mister Metokur and Quarter Pounder. When Ralph got a taste of his own medicine he ran away like a bitch which is also what Mauler does. While I may not agree with probably 95% of what Jenny Nickols says, however, the way she took down Mauler was masterful. All she did was post a link to Mauler's 11 hour video about her and tweeted saying basically; "Wow this guy made a 11 hour response about my video. He either must have too much time on his hands or is an obsessive loser."

That made Mauler into a internet laughing stock for weeks and lead to him having a cope stream with the token Fandom Menace thots stroking his hurt ego with the hopes of doing so being they would get more simp buxs. Also, notice how Mauler also rarely goes after female content creators anymore unless he has the backing of token thots? That would be because female content creators have a more rapid and defensive fanbase. Mauler, being a true to life coward will not go after female content creators he disagrees with unless he has the backing of the token e-thots. As if to say; "See! I'm not a sexist incel. I have women on my show who share my views on why this woman is wrong about this piece of goyslop."

Overall the man is a fat, controlling, bullying coward with a fragile ego who seems to be obsessed with wanting to be right and making people believe that his views are the only right views. This is the type of behavior one would see from a very small and insecure man who feels the need to control others. It doesn't help that Mauler's friend group enable and encourage his bad behavior. As we have seen time and again, when these groups like the Fandom Menace help and encourage their high ranking members bad behavior it doesn't end well.

 

[Schway]

Other than that, though, there's no basis to infer intention, certainly not this dark. We've gone from grifting to a Jordan Peterson-esque plot to defuse conservatism, although Drinker's identity as a blockbuster enjoyer who grew up in the 80s is more than sufficient to explain pithy spankings of awful movies. I think this is self-evident if you've ever known one of his fans.

When did I infer his overall intention? I held back from commenting on this when you tried to tie what I was saying to some kind of call for people like CD to start talking about Alex Jones talking points, but you just keep going. Stop making up what you think I'm saying and just read the words on the screen please. I've not once throughout our conversation said I think CD is some kind of intentional bad actor who sits in his room and plans how to defuse conservatism or something. That is just the effect of what he does because he's fundamentally just a boomer liberal guy who doesn't think too much about the consequences of what he does or his political stances, goes with what's popular and thinks that moderation is inherently good or something. He doesn't like the way media is now, but sticks to safe(r) and less politically charged explanations and reasons. All of this in an environment where you get more money and clicks if you keep sticking to that is the reason he makes the videos he does.

In the end it doesn't matter what his intention is, the end result is what is important and for CD, Mauler and co it is effectively gatekeeping the "anti-woke" side of the discussion.

This is the problem with right-wing messaging in a nutshell. In just a couple beats this discussion went from "female role models are sus" to "maybe female autonomy is sus." It becomes a contest to double down on the most radical conclusion. Not very persuasive.

The funny thing is I said neither of those two things during this conversation you just extrapolated things I said and put your own spin on them because it was the easier to argue from that position for you. If you need it drawn out for you my last comment was mostly there because I am not (or I guess was not lol) interested in playing defense and correcting your false impression of what I said when any reasonable reading doesn't arrive at that conclusion. Also I think the problem with right-wing messaging is the giant political, business and media conglomerates monitoring, suppressing, censoring and criminalizing it, but maybe you're right and instead it's just a little bit too spicy lol.

 

[Hankus McSix]

I get that mauler and co are faggots, but it's really baffling to me that they do shit like this. You invite someone to your show and they're ostensibly someone you're amicable with, why pressure them like this to try to make them look retarded? Arguing is fine but they're actively trying to attack the guy, and mauler as a host should have the wits about him to step in and control the situation since he can tell it's a dogpile.

People have said this before in the thread but I'm continually astonished at how toned down and quiet Mauler gets when someone disagrees with him, or says something he thinks is untrue when he is alone and or the person is higher clout, vs when he can bully them with his 3-5 butt buddies. Really scumbag behaviour.

This is why I say that Mauler is just like Ralph. Remember, Ralph only dunked on Mundane Matt because he had the back up of big YouTubers like Keemstar, Mister Metokur and Quarter Pounder. When Ralph got a taste of his own medicine he ran away like a bitch which is also what Mauler does. While I may not agree with probably 95% of what Jenny Nickols says, however, the way she took down Mauler was masterful. All she did was post a link to Mauler's 11 hour video about her and tweeted saying basically; "Wow this guy made a 11 hour response about my video. He either must have too much time on his hands or is an obsessive loser."

Absolutely Mauler is a fucking coward that shuts down when hearing opposing views without back up or if he has his little group they attempt to dogpile the person. it's really great rewatching the stream Drinker did when they tried it and he definetly came out looking a lot better then all of them. But normally people in that situation get angry - Understandably - So then obviously Mauler and co will look good to their cult like audience who think voice intonation and getting emotional is a sign of loosing a fucking "debate".

These two messages I quoted bring out smth about Mauler that stands out to me repeatedly tbh:
1. Maulers poor treatment of guests. Like holy shit does he treat the guests like absolute garbage especially if they're smaller than him or he isn't personal friends with them. The biggest symptom of this is of course Rags who acts like an absolute aggro-sperg who attacks and antagonizes anyone and everyone sometimes cause he disagrees but sometimes for his personal amusement - Even if the guest is not in on the joke.
Two of these cases was I rewatched some parts of the RE8 Efap where at one point Rags kinda snaps at Indigo Gaming who then says "I'm sorry I don't mean to be in a disagreement with you Rags" - Clearly showing that he is not in on the joke of Rags being an asshole on purpose and it's making him uncomfortable.
The other example is during the Lotr Efap with Count Dankula I listened to the first hour since Dankula talks a lot there and he's generally entertaining and a situation comes up when Rags goes after Weekend Warrior, ironically as a joke for 'antagonizing the guest" again Weekend Warrior doesen't seem to eb in on the joke and he doesen't seem particularly comfortable with it. In that case though he manages to play it off with umour towards the end basically saying Rags is a cunt nigger lol.

2. There's been some attempts to compare Mauler to other lolcows. Honestly I guess if we had to compare him to someone I'd say Sargon of Akkad someone he clearly admires a lot. That isn't exactly an accurate comparison and honestly I don't think Mauler has a lot in common with Ralph aside from surface level stuff. I think Mauler is the defining one - The one you compare others to in terms of cowardice and relying on your bros to back you up on every situation. I haven't seen any other fag build up such a bubble and community where he has like a group of goons he relies on to have his back or he doesen't object.

Btw. a lot of focus is here on Mauler since this is kinda his thread but honestly - Rags and Fringy are really bad too and are huge parts of the problem. I mean the clip that started the argument with Doomer is literally Fringy bursting in and "debate me bro" cause Doomer said something this autistic Australian child disagrees with.

 

[Kars den Karb]

When did I infer his overall intention? I held back from commenting on this when you tried to tie what I was saying to some kind of call for people like CD to start talking about Alex Jones talking points, but you just keep going. Stop making up what you think I'm saying and just read the words on the screen please. I've not once throughout our conversation said I think CD is some kind of intentional bad actor who sits in his room and plans how to defuse conservatism or something. That is just the effect of what he does because he's fundamentally just a boomer liberal guy who doesn't think too much about the consequences of what he does or his political stances, goes with what's popular and thinks that moderation is inherently good or something. He doesn't like the way media is now, but sticks to safe(r) and less politically charged explanations and reasons. All of this in an environment where you get more money and clicks if you keep sticking to that is the reason he makes the videos he does.

I don't want to be rude, but you said he is "actively gatekeeping" his audience and "actively corralling" them away from deeper content. "Actively" specifically means "with intention." Even the verbs gatekeeping, corralling, herding, shitting on, all connote intention. So you're communicating something that you don't actually mean.

In the end it doesn't matter what his intention is, the end result is what is important and for CD, Mauler and co it is effectively gatekeeping the "anti-woke" side of the discussion.

Mauler absolutely. Drinker, we'll see how this affects his other content. It really doesn't make sense to go from explicitly opposing non-white casting in Rings of Power because LOTR is a white fantasy world, to blowing it off in a fantasy adaptation of Norse mythology. He is very plain that (aside from the Haradrim etc) characters in LOTR should be white:

The funny thing is I said neither of those two things during this conversation you just extrapolated things I said and put your own spin on them because it was the easier to argue from that position for you. If you need it drawn out for you my last comment was mostly there because I am not (or I guess was not lol) interested in playing defense and correcting your false impression of what I said when any reasonable reading doesn't arrive at that conclusion. Also I think the problem with right-wing messaging is the giant political, business and media conglomerates monitoring, suppressing, censoring and criminalizing it, but maybe you're right and instead it's just a little bit too spicy lol.

It's really not "easier" to argue for me; it doesn't even have to be an argument. I think it would be better if you clearly state your position instead of using innuendo and calling me out for understanding it wrong.

 

[Idiotron]

I've noticed people questioning why Drinker is as popular as he is.
I think there's a simple explanation for it:
He's pretty much the only non-woke movie/TV Youtuber that makes scripted content.
It really is as simple as that.

Think about it:
How many of these anti-woke people do anything beyond just turning on the camera and rambling?
Can you name 3 without looking them up? Probably not.
It's a real desert in this market, that's why the one guy who does it gets so many views.
He's not really funny or insightful but he says what people want to hear and his videos are better than the off-the-cuff rambling ones that everyone else is doing.

 

[Kars den Karb]

I've noticed people questioning why Drinker is as popular as he is.
I think there's a simple explanation for it:
He's pretty much the only non-woke movie/TV Youtuber that makes scripted content.
It really is as simple as that.

Think about it:
How many of these anti-woke people do anything beyond just turning on the camera and rambling?
Can you name 3 without looking them up? Probably not.
It's a real desert in this market, that's why the one guy who does it gets so many views.
He's not really funny or insightful but he says what people want to hear and his videos are better than the off-the-cuff rambling ones that everyone else is doing.

Depending on how you define non-woke, there are actually a lot of similar video essay channels out there getting around 100k views per video, like Robot Head, but their content doesn't have the same kind of broad appeal. (On the other side, E;R makes some of the best video essays on the platform, but he only uploads once every few months.)

Drinker has a couple of big advantages over them. One, he doesn't come across as a nerd. He's likeable, level-headed, doesn't have obsessions, and seems like he goes outside. He gets annoyed by the Last Jedi, even disgusted, but he doesn't act like Rian Johnson killed his dog. The other thing is that he understands the value of brevity and tight writing in an era where even scripted videos repeat themselves constantly (to say nothing of the rest of the Fandom Menace, as you mentioned). Instead of stringing out a TV show with videos for each episode, he just covers the whole season in 12 minutes. It makes the videos that much easier to share.

Mauler's audience has a lot of crossover with Drinker's, but I doubt the opposite is true. First of all, Drinker's is just bigger, but also I know a lot of people who check in with himfor new releases but would never sit through 3 hours of scene-by-scene heckling. It seems to come down to how much you depend on the internet for entertainment. If you spend time doing other things, you want the short and sweet updates.

 

[Berrakh]

Also I think the problem with right-wing messaging is the giant political, business and media conglomerates monitoring, suppressing, censoring and criminalizing it, but maybe you're right and instead it's just a little bit too spicy lol.

Nah. This is a cope imo. But I think it touches on the grudge between the two of you. Since this is a thread frequented by right wingers but about centrists at best, reviewing media for wokeness, it’s worth hashing that out (a little). I’ll even take some autism ratings for my trouble here.

If censorship ended tomorrow the right wing’s messaging would still be tailored toward accumulating more anti-social rank and file because it is just about being “based” and not about being unsentimentally realistic (which was what the original red pill metaphor used by Moldbug; it wasn’t about finding the most reactionary sounding position and squatting on it).

And, perhaps paradoxically, these are the people who are most likely to fall for a show like The Boys. Because they’re dumb and just want to feel validated even if insincerely. They’re the audience that fidgets around and changes its mind.

Now I get you were probably kidding with the response to what he said about women having more roles than just motherhood but all it takes is someone misunderstanding that to think “the most based take is that women shouldn’t have social lives or aspirations, that’ll work”. And this isn’t hard to imagine because it’s how anime waifufaggotry works now— every wet hole is assessed by how compatible they are with a stranger’s self-conceit rather than their own characteristics. Not great and powerful company to be keeping.

In the case of Starlight, she is from the Bible Belt and gets sexually violated very early on. So I don’t know if her role-model aspirations are meant to be “wholesome but powerful” like her background would imply, or a way of putting her home fully behind her. That’s the decisive factor here. But it is technically more empowered than sewing clothes for her 7 children so you can always call it “modern empowerment” if you’re enough of a Hobbit.

And the woman question is such an interesting fault line in radical right wing discourse because the right has only gotten less racist, less homophobic, and less anti-semitic while doubling down on bitching about women. Probably because, as the country becomes more brown, you can accrue a wider audience with that. It shows how devolved and incurious things have become— The discourse is increasingly only about having a dry dick. which is the most navel-gazing subject possible.

As it happens, open-mindedness is good. Without it you really never progress past the shtetl. Which is the macro point here.

 

[Cheeseknife]

I've noticed people questioning why Drinker is as popular as he is.
I think there's a simple explanation for it:
He's pretty much the only non-woke movie/TV Youtuber that makes scripted content.
It really is as simple as that.

That's a silly thing to say.

Most of the real non-woke people have since had their channels vaporized by YouTube or the algorithm. That alone should be a clear-cut indicator as to how "non-woke" Drinker truly is if the people running the show don't care enough about his "anti-woke" stance to quell is popularity. But clearly they know he is a wet blanket and he keeps mainstream garbage in the limelight so that they don't have to.

Thanks, Drinker, for letting over 3 million people know that yet another trash dumpster fire exists!

Hooray! Now I can pat myself on the back for being a better person than the people whose products I consume on the day-to-day!

By the way, finding so-called "non-woke" YouTubers with scripted content isn't difficult at all. Here's a few just off the top of my head:

Black Pigeon Speaks
No Bullshit
The Amazing Atheist
Hunter Avallone
Stephen Crowder
Lauren Southern
Candace Owens
Computing Forever (Dave Cullen)
The Quartering
Tim Pool
Roaming Millennial (Lauren Chen)
Memology 101
Sandman
Brett Cooper

If you really think Drinker is the only non-woke YouTuber producing scripted content, you must have started using YouTube....I don't know, last month?

And the woman question is such an interesting fault line in radical right wing discourse because the right has only gotten less racist, less homophobic, and less anti-semitic while doubling down on bitching about women. Probably because, as the country becomes more brown, you can accrue a wider audience with that. It shows how devolved and incurious things have become— The discourse is increasingly only about having a dry dick. which is the most navel-gazing subject possible.

This is also what folks like the EFAP crew don't seem to understand about the new God of War games. Unlike the previous games, the games have been almost completely sterilized of any sexual content.

Kratos's wife is dead so you only know they shagged based on the fact that the even have a son. Whenever Kratos talks about his wife, it's like she was just his friend or mentor and not his lover. Even in flashbacks, you don't get the idea that the pair of them were even remotely intimate.

Atreus offers Angrboda a flower at one point in the game, and it's rejected. Romance is quickly thrown off the table, and yet the game tailors the dialogue specifically to indicate the pair do love each other despite the fact that they are keen not to show that visually.

Kratos and Freya don't even entertain the idea of becoming a couple. The game even seems to specifically cater the dialogue so there's no question in your mind as to whether or not that will ever happen, yet despite Freya's whole speech about being angry with Kratos for kill Baldur, she and he get really chummy afterwards.

It's like every male-to-female relationship quells romance and tries desperately to maintain that the platonic is all that's allowed.

No sex. No kissing.

Ironically, the only couple that seems to show any amount of actual intimacy (just a little bit) in the game are Thor and Sif. Incidentally, they're white, they're still married (where Odin and Freya are divorced and Kratos is a widower), and the pair happen to lose all their sons meaning Thor will have to be superseded by his daughter shortly after he is killed by Odin.

But they'll devote an entire side-quest to two gay dwarves spray-painting heart emojis everywhere and making a campfire with rainbow colors, all in "honor" of two faggot devs.

 

[Gloria The Glorious]

That's a silly thing to say.

Most of the real non-woke people have since had their channels vaporized by YouTube or the algorithm. That alone should be a clear-cut indicator as to how "non-woke" Drinker truly is if the people running the show don't care enough about his "anti-woke" stance to quell is popularity. But clearly they know he is a wet blanket and he keeps mainstream garbage in the limelight so that they don't have to.

By the way, finding so-called "non-woke" YouTubers with scripted content isn't difficult at all. Here's a few just off the top of my head:

Black Pigeon Speaks
No Bullshit
The Amazing Atheist
Hunter Avallone
Stephen Crowder
Lauren Southern
Candace Owens
Computing Forever (Dave Cullen)
The Quartering
Tim Pool
Roaming Millennial (Lauren Chen)
Memology 101
Sandman
Brett Cooper

If you really think Drinker is the only non-woke YouTuber producing scripted content, you must have started using YouTube....I don't know, last month?

"YouTube doesn't kill his growing channel because he's not a threat to their ideals" Weren't a lot of "Real" anti-woke channels exceptional morons in their own right? Or am I just thinking of the skeptics again?

If The Quartering counts as scripted, then writing is dead. Both Tim Pool and Crowder are largely just reacting to articles and they're good at getting a good single take. The rest are scripted, but they come off as reactions to articles more than talking abotu an overall point. But hey, I'll meet halfway and reword the original point:

Also, that last bit I put in bold: being a passive aggressive comedian doesn't win people over. It only makes one come off as a smug dick; probably why MauLer does it too.